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best 1/48 early p-38 lightning

  • I am planning to add a 1/48 P-38f/g to my stash and was wondering what the opinions were as to the best kit.

    I am looking at the Academy P-38f and the Hasegawa P-38g Bouganville kit in 1/48.

    Any thoughts and advice would be appreciated.

     

    Mike

     

     

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     Revell 1/48 F-86D Sabre

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  • plus, there's a lack of lightning builds.

    Yamamoto was knocked to ground because of this bird.

    tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

    tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

    hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • lawdog114

    Wabashwheels:

    Joe, Nice work to get up and running quickly on this one.  It looks to me like Monogram, Academy, and Hasegawa all addressed the wing/boom attachment in the same manner.  Your photograph shows the shape of the boom attachment.  All three manufacturers use essentially the same shape.  I'll be anxious to hear your take on the Hasegawa fit.  I previously stated that the Academy wasn't that bad, but did need some fill and rescribing.  Boom alignment was good.  Good luck,  we'll all be watching.  Rick

     

    Hello, I thought I would post some pics of my progress on the Lightning.  Although I did not experience the common misaligned boom problem that reportedly requires hot water to fix, it did need quite a bit of sanding and rescribing where the booms attach, much like the others I suppose.  As I previously mentioned, I think the design of this plane itself in makes kit engineering challenging for any manufacturer.  I do think Hasegawa could have done a better job with the fit, which is rough to say the least.  I also haye the famous Hasegawa inserts so they can get mileage out of their kits.  The Intakes on this version fit poor and don't not fall on natural panel lines, therefore, they will require sanding and filling as well. 

    Anyways, I thought I would introduce my method of checking seams.  I use a silver Sharpie (which got a real workout on this kit).  When done sanding a seam, I run the pen along the line and it seems to magnify any spots missed.  I think it works like a charm and saves time on primer.  Here she is:

    Wow! Beautiful work! The Hasegawa kit looks great. Don't look like u had any problems with the boom assembly. Big Smile

    On the Bench: 

     Revell 1/48 F-86D Sabre

  • Mike,

    I've built all the different makes of the P-38 in 1/48 scale The ancient Revell-o-Grams, Hasegawa's, Minicraft's and the Academy's. For the early 1/48 scale P-38's would be the Academy's they have the most correct shapes, most people think the Hasegawa kits are the best but not in this case. I've had the chance to look over the REAL GLACIER GIRL here in San Antonio and the Academy was the best match for the Lightnings. Yes the P-38 is a complex kit and all of them have their issues but I recommend going with the Academy kit.

    Here's what I commonly do for my 1/48 scale P-38's:

    Academy P-38E/F at $ 29.00, Squadrons Crystal Clear Academy P-38 Canopy set at 7.00, True Details P-38 Cockpit at 12.50, True Details P-38 Wheels & Tires set at 5.50. with this in total comes far less then the Hasegawa kit with same updates (at $75.00) and you'll have a really nice rendition of a P-38E/F/G/H Lightning for about $55.00 total a good $20.00 less.

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  • I am a fan of twin boom A/C (P-38 in particular) and I find similar problems in every one regarding the booms.  Engineering the join of the wings to twin booms so that they fit perfectly in every kit is nearly impossible.  Having built about 15 P-38s in various scales from varied manufacturers, I have found that there isn't any one manufacturer that is clearly better or worse in this area.  Check out this great P-38 tip on Swanny's site.  It is a little complicated for my taste if done exactly as shown but it is a great demonstration of the concept of P-38 assembly.

    The Academy kit is not bad other than what has already been noted and can be simply addressed if you so choose.

     

    Mac

    I Didn't do it!!!

  • Wabashwheels

    Joe, Nice work to get up and running quickly on this one.  It looks to me like Monogram, Academy, and Hasegawa all addressed the wing/boom attachment in the same manner.  Your photograph shows the shape of the boom attachment.  All three manufacturers use essentially the same shape.  I'll be anxious to hear your take on the Hasegawa fit.  I previously stated that the Academy wasn't that bad, but did need some fill and rescribing.  Boom alignment was good.  Good luck,  we'll all be watching.  Rick

    Hello, I thought I would post some pics of my progress on the Lightning.  Although I did not experience the common misaligned boom problem that reportedly requires hot water to fix, it did need quite a bit of sanding and rescribing where the booms attach, much like the others I suppose.  As I previously mentioned, I think the design of this plane itself in makes kit engineering challenging for any manufacturer.  I do think Hasegawa could have done a better job with the fit, which is rough to say the least.  I also haye the famous Hasegawa inserts so they can get mileage out of their kits.  The Intakes on this version fit poor and don't not fall on natural panel lines, therefore, they will require sanding and filling as well. 

    Anyways, I thought I would introduce my method of checking seams.  I use a silver Sharpie (which got a real workout on this kit).  When done sanding a seam, I run the pen along the line and it seems to magnify any spots missed.  I think it works like a charm and saves time on primer.  Here she is:

     

    "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

  • I built quite a few Monogram P-38`s and don`t remember having any trouble with the booms not fitting right like the Academy and Pro Modeler/ Hasegawa kits.  On the PM kit, the boom fit was so horrible that I had to hold one of them over a burner to heat it up enough to bend it into alignment!  As fit vs. detail goes, I`d go for the better fitting kit everytime...you can pick up resin and PE cockpit sets relatively cheap. Just my 2 cents.

    Len

    Len Pytlewski

  • i would love to start on my P-38 but i've been building way tomany props. A-4E time. 

    tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

    tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

    hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • Joe, Nice work to get up and running quickly on this one.  It looks to me like Monogram, Academy, and Hasegawa all addressed the wing/boom attachment in the same manner.  Your photograph shows the shape of the boom attachment.  All three manufacturers use essentially the same shape.  I'll be anxious to hear your take on the Hasegawa fit.  I previously stated that the Academy wasn't that bad, but did need some fill and rescribing.  Boom alignment was good.  Good luck,  we'll all be watching.  Rick

     

  • Hey Mike, you have inspired me to break out my 1/48 Hasegawa P-38 (in PM boxing) and commence work again.  I'm going to build it in Rex Barber's markings.  I painted the gear wells, glued the center fuselage pod and booms which so far, have been fairly painless. I'll advised accordingy when I go to attach the booms to the wings since this where it gets tricky (if i remember correctly).  I also put a bunch of fishing weights in the gun compartment to keep it on its wheels when complete.   Heres some pics. 

    Joe

       

     

    "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

  • NIce. I think I ll go with the Hasegawa offering then....with the eduard PE fret.

    On the Bench: 

     Revell 1/48 F-86D Sabre

  • mike_espo

    Was wondering if the new Hasegawa P-38g Bougainville has better fit regarding the booms....I heard this is where the Hasegawa kit is lacking.

     

    i have this new boxing kit and i did dry fitting on the main fuselage parts with no problems. 

    tamiya 1/48 P-47D $25 + shipping

    tamiya 1/48 mosquito $20+ shipping

    hobby boss 1/48 F-105G. wings and fuselage cut from sprue. $40+ shipping. 

  • Was wondering if the new Hasegawa P-38g Bougainville has better fit regarding the booms....I heard this is where the Hasegawa kit is lacking.

    On the Bench: 

     Revell 1/48 F-86D Sabre

  • lawdog114

    mike_espo:

    If I did get either kit, probably would go with the eduard zoom PE interior set as opposed to a resin cockpit.

    Maybe I can find a good deal on ebay........Hmm

     

    Hey Mike, Thats probably wise.  I put a True Details cockpit in mine and It was a real pain.  Lots of sanding to get it to fit.  Keep in mind, if you choose the Hasegawa kit, the instrument panel will be hidden under a coaming (unless you cut it out and alot of pilots did remove this), which will be really hard to see once assembled.  I wouldn't spend too much time detailing it and just focus on the side panels and seat (my opinon of course).  I'll post some pics of my in progress Lightning.

    Hey Mike, heres some pics of my in-progess P-38.  This is what the True Details Cockpit looks like should you decide to go this route instead. 

    Joe

     

    "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

  • Well, I can't compare the Hasegawa and Academy kits, but I did recently build the Academy F5-E, which employs the basic components of the other Academy P-38's.  It's a really doable kit.  I agree that the Eduard interior Zoom helps build a great cockpit.  It also comes with screens for the engine intakes which aren't all that hard to open up.  All three wheel wells build up nice and beg for a little extra plumbing.  The booms fit well with good alignment.  Sure there was some fill work around the nacelles, but that is a rather complicated joint from front to back.  If there was a breakthrough improvement to be made in the next great P-38, there is where it would be made.  Here's a few photos from the building process that show a little bit of the components as they started to go together.  It really was an enjoyable build.  The skeptics have made it way too scary.