Engines for Heinkel HE 111

As far as I know there are no AM engines for these kits. Are you considering scratchbuiling a section of engine. There are online images of He 111 engine's and the Squadron walk around on the He 111 has some good pics of open engines fitted to aircraft.

Verlinden do a resin Jumo 211 for the Hasegawa Stuka Kannonvogel in 1/32. I see no reason why, with a bit of alteration etc that you could fit one onto Revell's Heinkel 111.

Thanks guys.  Maybe if I do the P variant, I could fit a Daimler Benz engine, which was apparently used for the Ps (according to wikipedia and also Revell).

This one is for a Messerschmidt, but perhaps I could coax it in.

http://scaleplasticandrail.com/kaboom/index.php/all-things-aviation/132-135-scale/132-aftermarket-items/630-132-daimler-benz-db-601an-engine

I didn't think about that option. Both of those ideas would work. The Ju 87G and He 111H-6 both had the 211 engine, though slightly different versions, I am sure externally they are the same. The only difference I can see is the radiator and oil cooler tank.

I think that the Verlinden should fit.

I have done lots of surfing and also consulted my Luftwaffe maintenance manuals for the HE111 and Stuka G.

Both had exactly the same engine in - the Jumo 211 F1 or F2 (not much noticeable difference)

If Revell have got the engine cowling shapes correct and size wise then the Verlinden should fit. The oil and radiator should fit above and below into the cowling shapes

Thanks everyone.  This is leading to more and more research about these planes, and it's going to be a tricky build because of a lack of images.  I've already ordered 3 different books on the HE 111, and though I haven't seen them yet, they appear to deal mostly with the aircraft structure and not the engine.  There are manuals, and although there is a source on the net to buy a copy of the original, it is very expensive (well, in modelling terms), and I'm not sure what kinds of details they include.

All in all, I've decided to just have fun with it, and take a "best guess" approach to anything I can't get a visual on.

The place to go for Luftwaffe Maintenance Manuals is here

www.luftfahrt-archiv-hafner.de

There is a DVD available for the H-5 H-6 Variant of the H-111. There is every maintainance and repair manual associated with the aircraft including the engines and fit and maintainance, armament etc.

This particular DVD is 64.95 Euro and the files on it are PDF copies of the original manuals (in German)

Included is the handbook for the engine with photos and diagrams for all the electrical, hydraulic, oil and water cooling pipes and connections.

Really a must for we builders, and of course the manuals etc also provide crossover for equipment used in other aircraft as well. They are really an investment.

James

Thank you Snapdragon, I can't really argue with that can I!!  My only quibble is the price, which will add to the overall cost of the build (likely to go up if I'm going to pay that much attention to the details)!!  We shall see :-)  

I realise that the price could be very much an issue, but as a modeller I look at the long term view that no investment in OEM manuals is a waste of time. The Heinkel has a lot of glass in the nose and as such the cockpit is in clear view (so to speak). the manuals included on the DVD also include close ups of equipment, cable routings etc which, in 1/32 scale can be seen in the cockpit. Also as there are equipment crossovers between aircraft equipment then there is double the value.

I appreciate that the cost of upgrading and detailing aircraft can spiral to the extortonate.... I am guilty of this on more than one level, especially with the Zoukei-Mura kits.

Revell of Germany has given us some smashing 1/32 kits with the 2 Heinkel variants and JU88 variants amongst others, but their price point also gives us the opportunity to either make a great looking kit out of the box, or with some expenditure a stunning highly detailed model.

Take a look here

www.hphmodels.cz/kat160.html

Now remember that the cockpit of the HE111 was not RLM 02 the actual cockpit interior was RLM 41 which to get the correct colour you should use Vallejo model colour 70986

Anything spent on research and intel is very rarely wasted and often comes around more than once!

Good luck with the build. I will be following it when you start

James

Well, you offer a challenge, and I'm not one to shy away from such things :) .  What I might do is invoke some strategy, and build up towards this model by collecting what I need months before I begin.  I may do another less committed build in the mean time.  That way I can lessen the expense by drawing it out over time, and have fun anyway :)  

But it seems everything required to do an extremely accurate build of one of these Heinkels does indeed exist!  Thank you!