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USAF MA-1A Ground Power Unit

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USAF MA-1A Ground Power Unit
Posted by Oyster on Monday, August 4, 2014 8:40 AM

Has anyone seen a 1/48 scale model of a MA-1A...?

Need an air start unit for T-38...UPT bases did not use -60s way back when...

TIA

Mike

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, August 4, 2014 9:11 AM

I couldn't find that one, but there is an MD-3, would that be any use.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Oyster on Monday, August 4, 2014 7:46 PM

MD-3 was a 115VAC Electric only Cart.

MA-1A was a Palouste (High Pressure Air) starter cart...

On the -38A, we used on board battery for start, "Huffer Cart" to spin er up.

Need the air unit...

Good thought though.

Mike

(How do I remember this stuff, and can not remember what I had for breakfast?)

EDIT: My bad...Oops..., Thinking back, MD-3  was 115VAC - and - 28 VDC

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    February 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by woody0369 on Monday, August 4, 2014 8:20 PM

I was AGE in the 80's and as I recall the Ma-1A had been out of service for quite awhile. T-38's were still in limited service and we kept 4 -60's around for them and F4's and F-111's. As they were the only planes left that required bleed air starters. My memory may be failing, but I don't remember any other bleed air carts.

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    March 2010
  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Monday, August 4, 2014 8:48 PM

I'm reaching back in my memory, But when I was in pilot training in 1984 we used the -60 at willie. At out stations we could run across a MA-1.

It should not be hard to scratch build one. I would think the wheels would be the hardest to find.

After that its basically a box.

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    May 2005
Posted by Oyster on Thursday, August 7, 2014 1:35 AM

Scratch building may be the only answer...

Flight line from Webb AFB  '75 didn't have "new" AGE (-60s), since it was closed in '77.

You guys at Willie & Enid by the Sea...got all that good stuff.

FWIW, You know you are getting old...

When (at least) two of your PCS bases have been closed.Sad

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    March 2005
  • From: near Nashville, TN
Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, August 7, 2014 2:20 AM

I don't see an MA-1 on this page,,,,,,but, I thought it might be of interest anyway.

There are not a lot of places to get Yellow Gear out there.

Rex

edit, it is always nice to remember to right click and paste  http://www.aim72.co.uk/page71.html

almost gone

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    March 2010
  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Thursday, August 7, 2014 7:43 AM

Yup, Willie and Zwiebrucken AB are closed. But Dover is still there!

I'm 1 for 3.

I guess I'm old.

Also, FWIW, I don't remember the -1A's being yellow like in the photo. I thought they were

dark olive drab like the other ground equipment. But that could be time and my bad memory.

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    May 2005
Posted by Oyster on Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:00 PM

Trying to figure out how to load photos from imgur to here...

I'll be back...

Webb AFB 1975, With Yellow MA-1As...Best Photo I could find of the -38 Flight line

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Posted by Oyster on Thursday, August 7, 2014 10:38 PM

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Friday, August 8, 2014 8:31 AM

Yup, no doubt they are yellow.

For reference I found a photo of the -60

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  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Friday, August 8, 2014 1:36 PM

Has anyone thought of Shapeways? A 3d printer should be able to make one.

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