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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, September 19, 2014 5:19 PM

Well, click on the picture and look at the middle aircraft's lower fuselage just under the stars and bars. That looks like a very reflective metal finish showing the tarmac surface.

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, September 19, 2014 11:35 AM

I hear you Mike. I was asking more in the line of weather the planes were polished at the Factory or only at sqn?

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Posted by Buckeye on Friday, September 19, 2014 11:15 AM

Who wants to be flying a highly polished mirror in a combat zone? ;)

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, September 19, 2014 9:56 AM

That info is correct.

The alclad sheets that come from the mills have a thin layer of pure alluminium on the outside that does not corrode.

pollishishing it will remove it letting the alloy corrode.

That is why you need to keep on pollishing it when you start

I worked at a place that had a pollished Beech 18 , it was a never ending task to keep it shiny.  LOL

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Posted by Ray Marotta on Friday, September 19, 2014 9:33 AM

About the only USAF aircraft that were "polished" were VIP birds.  Polishing an airplane damages the alclad coating on the aluminium if the polish is the least bit abrasive and allows corrosion to start.

I got this information from my Father who was a retired USAF Chief Master Sergeant with 30 years experience in aircraft maintenance and and aircrew.  During the Korean War, he was flying as the Flight Engineer/Crew Chief for the Commanding General of the 20th Air Force in a highly polished B-17G...

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, September 19, 2014 9:04 AM

Here is a question, when I built my F-100, I read that the planed were painted with the national markings and stencling. The colorful bands and sqn insignea were put on at the sqn's.

Would this have held true for for 104's at the factory before delivery to sqn's?

If so would they have been highly pollished yet?

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, September 19, 2014 7:03 AM

Cool feedback, thanx mate :-)

That one closest to the camera looks quite battered....

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:35 PM

This is how F-104s looked in Vietnam in NMF during their first deployment there. The NMF was weathered. No squadron badges on the tail, instead it was the standard TAC shiled w/lightning bolt of that era. Aircraft Gray is a gloss color FS 16473, not sure of the Humbrol code.

http://www.916-starfighter.de/Large/Contrails/contSEADaNang1.htm

As you can see the upper wings are indeed white in the NMF scheme.

 

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F-104c color questions
Posted by Theuns on Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:27 PM

Guys sorry to ask the same question again :-(

My Hasagawa 1/48 F-104c is done in NMF and the plans call for white upper surface on the wings, is this correct?

The radome and under surface of the wings call for aircraft grey, any one maybe have an FS co or maybe the humbrol / tamiya enamel codes? These would be high gloss aswell?

Would the 104's have been pollished allu without the "bold color stripes" when deployed to Vietnam, or would they have been dulled down by then?

If so what would be on the plane, I assume the standard USAF markings with all the stencling less the colorfull stuff? What about the Sqn badge on the tail?

Thanx

Theuns

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