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1/48 revell b-24d-b-24j gun terretts

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1/48 revell b-24d-b-24j gun terretts
Posted by 5-high on Monday, December 29, 2014 3:12 PM
Hi guys ..been a long time sence i posted ..i recently bot two 1/48 b-24 libs one is monogram b-24-j. And one is the revell b24-D ..my qeustion is the extra gun terrett that i found in the clear sprue ..b-24-d...it has both types ..one i know is the emrson the other not to sure of ?..weird that thay whould inclued both ...any thoughts ..thanks ...hi 5
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Posted by jeaton01 on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 3:57 PM

The other is the Consolidated turret.  Late B-24's could have either.

John

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Posted by 5-high on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:05 PM
Thanks for the info jeatonO1..
Thats so cool ...i love kits with exrea.s . Makes for a heathy spare box ...the revell b-24D i plan on makeing a british version...thanks again ...happy new modeling year to ya!!!!!:-)
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Posted by richs26 on Tuesday, December 30, 2014 5:51 PM

Which British version did you want to do, the Mk II or III?

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Posted by 5-high on Wednesday, December 31, 2014 12:31 AM
Well richs26..im thinking along the lines of the mk-ll . But if i understand that thay had diffrent gun terrets ....like the langcastors. I like the camo top and black undersides . It.ll be easy to do but the terrets is going to be hard to find ...inernet i geuss
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Posted by 5-high on Thursday, January 1, 2015 3:56 AM
Happy new year every one at finescale forums !!
Is there aftermarkit british gun terrets available.
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Posted by 5-high on Thursday, January 1, 2015 12:34 PM
Maybe i should just use the terrets that come with the kit ....but i like to have fun makeing diffirent type.s ....i aferaid that i may have to buy a 1/48 langcastor (hasga-airfix) ...but i find some manufacturs have slytle differnt scales.for 1/48..i know the brit libeys had four guns per terrets ie. Tail and top terrets ..no ball terret...
Help need info ..five hi
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Posted by richs26 on Thursday, January 1, 2015 5:55 PM

A Mk II will entail the use of one Boulton-Paul turret (top just behind the wing), single waist .50's, and twin .50's mounted on an open hula-hoop ring mount for the tail.  Major surgery will have to be done for the engine cowlings as PBY type round cowlings were used with toothpick Curtiss Electric propellers having the long prop domes.  A USAAF LB-30 could be constructed with a Martin turret mounted amidships with twin .50's, and twin .50's mounted on an open post mount.  A Mk III used the Boulton-Paul tail turret with also using the Martin turret on top in the same location as a D model.  The engine cowlings are the same elliptical ones as the B-24C/D.  A Mk IIIA used the American turrets as a regular C/D model.

Pickup a copy of Squadron's B-24 In Action book for more info.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by 5-high on Thursday, January 1, 2015 6:29 PM
Wow ..thats alot ..but u know what ...im up for that !.boulton -pauls have the 4 barrell 303s..does the martin have the same?...i like the mid top just behide the wing terret style ..is the pby cowlings the same as the catalinas cuss if so i have two kits .its the terretts ar going to be the big prob . I lve in the northen british colubia canada ..and the l.h.s is a joke so ordering is like. ...well u know . P.s toothpick props ??..are thay like the catalinas?..
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Posted by 5-high on Thursday, January 1, 2015 9:58 PM
Richs26...im stumped u said ..toothpick props ...what is the type or manufactor of these .are thay british made and where i may find them ??.
I seem to not find any place to get my hands on the terrets i need for my conversion ..should i used the terrets from a langcastor or some other british bomber in 1/48scale ..im really stuck here ..can u or anyone else point me in the right direction..thanks 5-high
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Posted by richs26 on Friday, January 2, 2015 3:27 AM

"Toothpick" props are narrow, skinny props used by original B-24's until later blocks were equipped with wide paddleblade props. Lib II's used Curtiss-Electric toothpick props.  B-24C-M's used Hamilton-Standard props. P-38's used narrow 3-bladed C-E props but used a spinner so you couldn't see the prop domes.  Certain blocks of bubbletop P-47's used Curtiss Electrics so you could use those prop domes.  Combine the two.  Check to see if the length of the P-38 props match the length of the Lib II props.

Look on the web for C-E replacement props from the different modeling vendors, and also get some books as it will really help you do some basic research.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by Mij on Friday, January 2, 2015 9:24 AM
I'm pretty sure the correct spelling is turret not terrett or terret.

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Posted by 5-high on Friday, January 2, 2015 3:01 PM
Oops...ur right mij..its turrets ...u all been so great and helpfull as soon as i get started on this ill share the wip photos with one and all ..now for those brit,turrets ..???
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Posted by richs26 on Friday, January 2, 2015 6:18 PM

Google for pic's of Lib II's and LB-30's.  Not every RAF Lib II had 2 B-P turrets, as some had only one or none.  Or you could do a US LB-30 in an RAF paint scheme such as AL-613 in the Aleutians.

Check out the Imperial War Museum photo archive for Lib II's. And the Santa Barbara Air and Space Museum photo archive as they seem to have a lot of Consolidated factory photos.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, January 2, 2015 6:42 PM

Also google for Boulton Paul Type A turret, that is what was used on the Liberator II.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by 5-high on Sunday, January 4, 2015 3:13 PM
Well the hunt is on ..at lest this will take my mined of my 1/48 helldiver . Let u all know how it go.es. And i.ll have picks to share with one and all
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Posted by 5-high on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 1:21 AM
Richs26 ..i looked at google images and noticed no superchargers under the nesiles or do thay ..do i have to reshape the under the wing part..nesiles ...i may have to cast resin cowels..and liveing in the northern b.c .my lhs dont carry alot of books as the ones in vancouver
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Posted by richs26 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 1:39 PM

The B-24A/Lib I, and LB-30/Lib II did not have superchargers in the nacelles.  The nacelles are round, not elliptical like on the B-24C-M.  You have to redo all of it using the PBY cowlings.  You might make it easier using the PBY nacelles from the PBY kits or roll your own from this Flickr link.  It is 1/72, but the principles are the same.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/24302898@N08/3203201800/in/photostream/

You can use the B-24A/Lib I "Diamond Lil/Ole 927" as a guide as it has PBY-5A cowlings that that were put on in 1945 by Consolidated.  And remember that the the Mono D kit is wrong as it has the nose gear doors opening outward when they should be opening up and inward.  For books, go online as that is what I do here in Fairbanks as there is no real hobby store anymore except in Anchorage.

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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Posted by richs26 on Wednesday, January 7, 2015 1:55 PM

WIP:  Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 73rd BS B-26, 40-1408, torpedo bomber attempt on Ryujo

Monogram 1/72 B-26 (Snaptite) as 22nd BG B-26, 7-Mile Drome, New Guinea

Minicraft 1/72 B-24D as LB-30, AL-613, "Tough Boy", 28th Composite Group

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