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How to Determine Correct Size (Aircraft Scale & Math)

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How to Determine Correct Size (Aircraft Scale & Math)
Posted by Adam148 on Thursday, January 15, 2015 11:27 AM

I am not a math guy.

I'm eyeing some paint masks on eBay so I can paint my own national insignias rather than using the model's decals.  I build in 1/48 scale.  The masks come in various sizes, e.g., 24-inches, 34-inches, etc., meaning that I need to figure out how big the insignia is *supposed to be* on the actual aircraft.

If I cheat a bit and simply measure the insignia on the decal sheet (assuming it's correctly sized), I see that it's .82" across.

Here's the math question:

Do I multiply the .82" x 48 (cuz it's 1/48 scale) to determine how big the actual insignia would be on the airplane? That's a little over 39".  Seems reasonable, but I feel like I'm missing a step here.  

Thanks for any guidance!

Here's the link to the eBay item, BTW: 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Paint-masks-USAAC-USAAF-USAF-Roundel-National-Insignia-SCALE-1-48-/141002600357?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_212&var=&hash=item667a650d6a

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Posted by TarnShip on Thursday, January 15, 2015 2:57 PM

The US insignia is not measured and sized according to the diameter of the circle. That would work for two of the six on the photo, but not the other four.

The diameter of a US insignia is the circle made by connecting the tips of the stars, so for the two on the upper right, your method is correct,,,,,Full Size is found by just measuring the circle and mulitplying by 48.

For the other four, you measure the diameter of the "main blue part" of the circle, leaving out the Red, Yellow or Blue surrounds that were added after the specs were finalized.

Since you got 39" as your answer, it seems that you measured the full diameter of one of the "bad choices" instead of the "diameter at the star tips"

I hope this helps point out why we can't just measure and multiply everything, we have to do it the same way they were drawn out in the first place. (If we plan to match the names up, that is)

This might even help someone save some money, because if you know the diameters you want in your scale, a cheap decal sheet that has small 1/32 or large 1/72 insignia on it may have portions that work on your 1/48 stuff.

Rex

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Posted by Adam148 on Thursday, January 15, 2015 5:21 PM

Rex, thank you!  I get what you're saying about how to measure the different insignias.  I read a recent article somewhere about the evolution of the design of the stars-->stars and bars.  For the record, the insignia I measured was from an Operation Torch P-51, and I believe I did include the yellow surround in my measurement.  So that would've been wrong.

That aside, it sounds like I my wild guess on doing the math was correct.  Measurement of object x scale = actual size.  Now that I think about it, this is easily confirmed by measuring something on the model (e.g., wingspan), multiplying that number by the scale (48), and verifying it with stats of the actual airplane.

Thanks again!

Adam

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Posted by Adam148 on Thursday, January 15, 2015 5:25 PM

Quoting myself:

"Now that I think about it, this is easily confirmed by measuring something on the model (e.g., wingspan), multiplying that number by the scale (48), and verifying it with stats of the actual airplane."

...which I just did.  The P-51 model's wingspan is 9.25 inches.  Multiplied by 48 = 444 inches.  Divided by 12" = 37'.  I Googled "P-51 wingspan" and...bingo.  37 feet.  Magic.

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