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Posted by murph on Monday, April 20, 2015 8:29 PM

Silver,

Congratulations on your achievements.  I've beaten out Academy Sabres with my Hasegawa Sabres.  Your preference is Academy.  Mine is Hasegawa.  Nobody is right or wrong we just have different opinions.  I guess it has to do with the skill and aptitude of the modeller - and what kind of a mood the judges are in on any given day.  :)

Good luck with your future builds!  No slight intended, only sincerity.

Mike

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, April 17, 2015 9:56 AM

Johnny, that's a scrap piece of 1/4" Masonite board that was painted with a can of car trunk spray paint.  It does look quite a bit like pavement doesn't it?  It is stained with drops and splatters of highly thinned enamel to simulate oil stains.  The "tar strips" are fine drafting tape and the yellow lines were masked off and sprayed with an airbrush. 

The board is placed on a card table with the tripod-mounted camera set at scale "eye height".  The model and the board can be moved and turned to get a variety of perspectives and poses.  I think photographing my models in natural light, and in a natural setting really helps.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/162199.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1


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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, April 17, 2015 9:43 AM

Texgunner,

What did you use as a base for the photos? It looks like a real runway.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, April 17, 2015 9:32 AM

Thanks mustang!  (today is International Ford Mustang Day, btwBig Smile)

A few different pics of that bird:


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Posted by Mustang8376 on Friday, April 17, 2015 8:45 AM

Great build there!  In regards to Academy's decals... I still have nightmares about those!  I've seen some Monogram F-86's at the store nearby, definitely going to have to pick one up.

Current build: 1/48 Monogram A-1H & AMT Jedi Starfighter.

 


Completed:  1/48 Monogram/Revell P-61B, 1/32 Hasegawa F6F-5, 1/48 Hasegawa F-16C, 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM, 1/48 Revell/Monogram AH-64A, Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D, AMT 1/420 USS Defiant, AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise, 1/72 Bandai VF-1J, AMT 1/537 USS Reliant, Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams, Academy 1/48 F-86F30, Linbergh's USS Gato 

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Posted by Texgunner on Friday, April 17, 2015 8:11 AM

JohnnyK

That is a great looking model. Really nice finish. Revell sent me an e-mail today indicating that the replacement lower main wing is in the mail. The wing in my kit was severly warped.

I have a question. What did you do about the raised panel lines?

Thanks Johnny!  The paint was SnJ aluminum, some panels polished more than others.   As for the raised panel lines, why, I just painted right over those bad boys!   Never gave them more than a passing thought as I recall.  They were the nature of that beast.Big Smile

Good news about the Revell service too, they treated you right.

Gary


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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, April 16, 2015 6:53 PM

That is a great looking model. Really nice finish. Revell sent me an e-mail today indicating that the replacement lower main wing is in the mail. The wing in my kit was severly warped.

I have a question. What did you do about the raised panel lines?

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:35 AM

(Scratching my head here...)  Well, I don't remember them as being bad.  I guess I'll put it that way.  I just remember using the Academy decals and they were like stiff plastic.  No amount of decal setting solution would make them conform to the slightest bump or recess.  I can't say I've ever had that happen with my Monogram decals.

Eric

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Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:29 AM

Nathan T

...And the Monogram decals were good?

Nathan, the best I recall, the decals are a mix of kit and after-market; it's been quite a while since the build was done.  I know that Monogram provided the yellow ID bands but I didn't use those and painted the yellow areas instead.


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Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:18 AM

...And the Monogram decals were good?

 

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:18 AM

echolmberg

Gotta agree with others here, Tex.  Great looking F-86!  I'd snap up the Monogram F-86 any day of the week and twice on Sunday.  They're fun builds and, as you proved, the make for a great looking F-86.

Eric

And thanks to you too Eric!  I appreciate all the nice comments on that old kit.

Gary


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Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, April 16, 2015 8:05 AM

Gotta agree with others here, Tex.  Great looking F-86!  I'd snap up the Monogram F-86 any day of the week and twice on Sunday.  They're fun builds and, as you proved, the make for a great looking F-86.

For the record, I've build a number of Monogram ones and one Academy F-86.  I will admit that I love the Monogram F-86s because of their simplicity, cost and nostalgia.  The Academy offering was great fitting but the decals stunk to high Heaven.  If I could ever find an Academy kit but at the Monogram price, I'd snap up a bunch of those, too, along with some aftermarket decals.

Eric

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Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, April 16, 2015 7:55 AM

Silver
Any way,great job on yours.

Thanks!


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Posted by Silver on Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:33 AM
Any way,great job on yours.
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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, April 13, 2015 8:01 PM

Yes they are Tex. Very much so.

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Monday, April 13, 2015 3:47 PM

stikpusher
Looks like a F-86 to me ;) Very nice job sir!

Beer Stik, if those kind words were directed at me, that was sure nice of ya!

Gary


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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, April 13, 2015 3:30 PM
Looks like a F-86 to me ;) Very nice job sir!

 

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Posted by Texgunner on Monday, April 13, 2015 3:23 PM

plasticjunkie

Great looking model GaryBeer

Thanks brother!   I appreciate that.Big Smile


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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, April 13, 2015 2:06 PM

Great looking model GaryBeer

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Posted by Silver on Monday, April 13, 2015 12:51 AM
I have placed first every time against Hasegawa with my Academy and Kinetic F-86's.Hasegawa has no engine or guns.Let alone a pilot .good model but third in my opinion.
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Posted by murph on Friday, March 20, 2015 10:07 AM

Having built 20 or so F-86's in 48th scale, for my preference, it's:

1 - Hasegawa

2 - Academy

3 - Revellogram

I've only used Hasegawa kit decals once and it was the F-86F-30 RCAF kit with decals for 416 Sqn (three colour camo and the big yellow "X" worn for Exercise Carte Blanche) and 413 Sqn (NMF).  I went with the 413 Sqn decals and they were very good.  A little thick but they settled nicely with a bit of Solvaset.  All other decals have been aftermarket (CanMilAir, Leading Edge and Model Alliance) for RCAF Sabres.

The Academy has a good representation of a General Electric J-47 engine.  The fuselage comes in two halves but if you want to display the J-47, you have to paint the engine and separate the fuselage halves into four pieces; left front and rear and right front and rear.  There is a line engraved on the inside of the fuselage to guide you in scribing or cutting.  Either way you decide to go, you have to build the engine because of the design of the kit.  The front of the engine keeps the intake runner in place and the cockpit is glued to the top of the intake runner.  The exhaust pipe mounts to the rear of the engine and that's required if you want to keep the parts square.

The Academy and Hasegawa kits are almost identical with a few minor plot twists.  Yes, the Academy is cheaper but I find the Hasegawa a better fitting and easier to put together kit.  I don't mind paying a few extra bucks for convenience.

If you can find the Revell Germany Canadair CL-13 Sabre 6 (blue box with a Luftwaffe jet on the front and Luftwaffe markings only in the box), it is the exact same kit and plastic as the Hasegawa kit and it's cheaper than the Hasegawa and Academy offerings.

The Revellogram kit is the cheapest of the lot but it's also, in my opinion only, the worst of the bunch.  The intake trunk is moulded closed about a 1/2" back form the opening.  It's not a very convincing depiction of the FOD covers.  It also allows you to model the jet with the machine gun bays and speedbrake wells open but detail is sorely lacking.  Closing them up is your best bet.  The wing fences (F-86F-30) are molded onto the wing, as is the pitot tube.  Be careful not to break off the pitot.  I was fortunate.  It also has separate landing flaps but fixed ailerons.  The flaps on real Sabres NEVER drop when parked.  The main gear struts are VERY flimsy.  Be careful with them.  The two things that I REALLY like about this kit is that the makers have indents for vents on either side of the fuselage (1/2 way down the fuselage just aft of the canopy) and they vent along the spine, just in front of the tail, is flat like those built by Canadair.  The dorsal vent North American built Sabres was bulged.  All my Sabres are RCAF builds.

Then there's the Italeri rebox of the old Esci kit.  I've read a few reviews and it seems a bit of a dog to build.  I've never built it so I can't offer fair comment on this kit.

Ultimately, it's your decision but I hope I've provided you with some information to help you make an informed decision.

Best of luck with your project.

Mike

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Posted by Silver on Friday, March 6, 2015 11:45 AM
1/48 Academy ---1/32 Kinetic.The best and most detailed .
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Posted by mississippivol on Thursday, February 26, 2015 6:31 PM

Haven't seen the other two, but the Monogram one is a great value, and Tex showed how well they look. Hook up a 40% off coupon at Hobby Lobby and it gets better.

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Posted by BKR1888 on Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:39 PM

Thanks for the replies everyone. Nice pictures Texgunner, that the first was real so you did a good job :) I was originally looking at Hasegawa but will take a look at the Academy offerings too. I've seen a Italeri Sabre that is cheap but was wondering if anyone's had experience with that.

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Posted by Mustang8376 on Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:08 PM

I've only built the Academy version of the F-86.  I've enjoyed it, just not the decals.  Have not had the chance to build Monogram's version, but looking forward to that in the future.

Current build: 1/48 Monogram A-1H & AMT Jedi Starfighter.

 


Completed:  1/48 Monogram/Revell P-61B, 1/32 Hasegawa F6F-5, 1/48 Hasegawa F-16C, 1/48 Revell Mig-21PFM, 1/48 Revell/Monogram AH-64A, Revell/Monogram 1/48 F-14D, AMT 1/420 USS Defiant, AMT 1/650(?) USS Enterprise, 1/72 Bandai VF-1J, AMT 1/537 USS Reliant, Academy 1/35 M1-A1 Abrams, Academy 1/48 F-86F30, Linbergh's USS Gato 

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Posted by Texgunner on Thursday, February 26, 2015 3:00 PM

Gamera

She looks great Tex!

Thanks Gamera, she did turn out okay.  At least from what the pics show anyway.  Creative photography can camouflage many faults ya know? Wink

Gary


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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:27 PM

Academy makes a few different issues of their Sabre kit. I believe one issue has nice Cartograph decals instead of the standard Academy decals.

There is also an older Esci kit of the F-86 out there in 1/48. A rebox of it was recently re issued by Italeri. it is of the same vintage as the Monogram kit (mid to late 70s) with a less well detailed interior, but recessed panel lines for those that must have that feature. It also is closer to a slat winged F-86E rather than a hard winged F-86F.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, February 26, 2015 11:14 AM

She looks great Tex!

Yeah I'd heard the Hasegawa kit is a little bit better detail wise but the Academy kit includes the jet engine and all the interior plumbing. So it seems to be pretty close between the two with the Monogram kit a little behind but still a very respectable version.  

Academy decals may not be the best but I still find them far more usable than Hasegawa ones. Several people here have given me advice on using Hasegawa decals but I still normally replace them whenever possible.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, February 26, 2015 10:57 AM

I did the Academy one aome years ago, I also have the Hasegawa in the stach and for my money the Hasa is the nicer ikt detail wize and the decals I believe to work better.

Theuns

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