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A tale of two P-40B and P-40E -- COMPLETED !!!!!

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, April 6, 2017 8:54 PM

My idea for the rear windows is to mask them first and set them with Vallejo clear gloss. Then putty the edges after the gloss dries nice and solid. 

I may have to make two sets of masks after I sand around the first set.

I'm hoping that will work. Same strategy I plan on using for the windscreen.

Maybe that can spark up an idea for you? :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, April 7, 2017 9:47 AM

Bk

regarding the windows, thin clear acetate cut to fit the opening and glued on with either Aleenes or Clear Parts Cement. I had a similar issue with another model a while back and it worked out fine.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Friday, April 7, 2017 10:05 PM

That's a good idea as well. It could be difficult to get the slight curvature to them, but that might be the answer for me as well. 

Thanks!

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, April 8, 2017 9:12 AM

M. Brindos

That's a good idea as well. It could be difficult to get the slight curvature to them, but that might be the answer for me as well. 

Thanks!

 

You are welcome. Experiment first by making patterns out of paper or thin plastic sheet till you get a perfect fit then transfer the outline on to the acetate. Using thin plastic sheet lets you fine tune it by lightly sanding the outline for a good fit.  I like to use Aleenes on something like this because it dries invisible and will not leave any signs unlike CPC from Testors that you can actually see it if a little gets on where you don't want it to be.

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, April 8, 2017 10:46 AM

Thats a pretty good idea. I may give that a shot if the kit parts don't pan out. What I've done is bevel the inside edges and that lets them sink into the fuselage and flush mount. I've glued them in with Gorilla epoxy which is crazy clear when dry and filled the edges with Tamiya putty and sanded smooth. I've masked over the mask to protect the mask and not scratch the parts. So far so good. I'll know if this is gonna work this weekend when I can shoot some primer over the area. Thanks for all the tips.

BK

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, April 8, 2017 10:54 AM

Yeah that was my plan. If it works for you as planned then I'll be doing the same. The acetate idea has me thinking of building frames to get the curvature correct.

Did you remember to drill out the access holes for the fuel and glycol ports? I remember them already being there when I built this kit as a kid, but both modern releases I've dealt with didn't have them.

-Mike B

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, April 8, 2017 12:13 PM

My kit has those two raised in detail. I haven't put the port side on yet. I was just gonna put a decal over them and call it done, but those appear recessed rather than raised. Which begs the question, now that the kit is closed up how might I recess those?

BK

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, April 8, 2017 12:19 PM

No the caps are raised and the kit got that right. what you are seeing in that picture is the holes in the plexiglass so they can be accessed. 

What I'm asking is if you've drilled the holes in the kit glass. They used to be there but they're not there anymore.

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, April 8, 2017 2:53 PM

Oh, I see. No I haven't drilled the glass yet. I can do that still. Thanks.

BK

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Posted by M. Brindos on Saturday, April 8, 2017 3:19 PM

No problem at all. Y'know, I haven't checked the Airfix kit yet to see if the ports are already there, but I suspect that they are.

The color of those caps are different, depending on which markings you've chosen. For the early types the gas cap is black and the glycol is aluminum, but for the exports they are red for the gas and black for the glycol.

Sometimes the glycol cap is yellow. Not sure if that was factory, mandated, or just field applicated. 

The Tigers were typically red/ black as far as I can tell.

Not sure if you already knew that or not. If anyone knows better, please, PLEASE correct me. I'd like to know for sure. :)

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Posted by BrandonK on Saturday, April 8, 2017 7:08 PM

Well, mine is an early -C cuz it'll have a fuel tank and PH markings so I'll use the black with aluminum look. Thanks for the tip.

BK

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, April 9, 2017 3:03 PM

Does anyone know on the -E version what color the lights on the fuselage beside the pilot are supposed to be? I've see both red or blue on the port side for color. I'm assuming those are Nav lights and would match the port or starboard color, but I can't confirm this.

BK

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, April 9, 2017 4:03 PM

I think those are just ID lights. Blue is the only color I've seen them in so far.

Hopefully someone has a better answer. Sorry.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Sunday, April 9, 2017 6:49 PM

I am pretty sure that I read someplace that they are formation lights, either blue or red. This is an E.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Sunday, April 9, 2017 7:02 PM

I just confirmed that there were blue fdormation lights on either side of the -E! "P-40 Warhawk", Part 2, Bert Kinzey, p22

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, April 9, 2017 7:28 PM

Good info, Shipwreck. My Airfix kit includes them, but they've always been missing from the Monovell kit and I never knew they existed.

Thanks for that info!

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Posted by Shipwreck on Sunday, April 9, 2017 7:37 PM
My keying gets worse with my age! But the formation lights on the -B are not the same. I wonder where they are?

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, April 9, 2017 7:40 PM

Just behind and below the pit. Almost directly under the gas cap. BK's last picture (above) shows it quite clearly.

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, April 9, 2017 10:40 PM

So, COOL. Thanks guys. Now next question. What is the cap in the port cutout of the -E and what color should it be?

BK

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, April 10, 2017 12:57 AM

Still a gas cap and I think it's still Black.  Not entirely sure at this moment lol.

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, April 10, 2017 2:56 PM

Thanks Mike.

One last light, located starboard underneath to the rear of the wing/fuselage area. I'm thinking its a formation light? Red? Blue? Then those will be done.

BK

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Posted by M. Brindos on Monday, April 10, 2017 10:14 PM

I don't know what that one is. ???

Edit: perhaps white ? maybe a landing light/friendly identifier?

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:08 AM

Well I completed the -E kit a few days ago and it feels really good to have one done. The -B/C now has a new windscreen that fits super good and is ready for primer. I have to finish up the port side cutout glass install and then its off for, hopefully, the final coat of primer.

I used a Squadron canopy and Gorilla Clear Epoxy to set the windscreen in place and it fits awesome and the epoxy is nearly totally invisible, so winning. I had to hand mask the windscreen but I will have the frame shape much cleaner this way too. The canopy slider also includes the frame piece that is moulded to the kit part, which has been removed, so I don't have to fab that up now. Another win. Again, I had to hand mask this part, but again I am controlling the frame size more this way.

With some luck I can have this one ready for paint this weekend. Fingers crossed.

BK

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:10 AM

Here are some shots of the -E now that it is done.

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 11:20 AM

Excellent work! That thing looks gorgeous. I can't wait to see the -B.

-BD-

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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 1:04 PM
Looks great!

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Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:03 PM
Brandon, your -E turned out really nice. I am especially impressed with that instrument panel.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 2:06 PM

Oh, wow that's looking good. That -E is beautiful!

Looks like we may be fairly close to finishing our -B's around the same time lol.

I know how good it felt to get the bottom painted. You're almost there too.  :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Shipwreck on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 5:43 PM
Brandon, I am looking at your finished -E. It might be me, but it seems that something is missing. Look at your model and go back to the one you posted earlier with the retired pilot sitting in the cockpit. Notice that the canopy rail is under his arm. I do not see that rail in your -E. Maybe I just do not see it; but it needs to be there if pilot ever expects to close the canopy!

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Posted by BrandonK on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 8:04 PM

That is correct for the -E, the -B needs the rail on the canopy. Near as I can tell it's complete. Besides, it's done and I'm not going back now.

BK

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