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Revell 1/48 B17G WIP

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Revell 1/48 B17G WIP
Posted by iampiper13 on Sunday, July 02, 2017 12:08 PM

My goodness this thing is huge,  I'll be doing the olive drab Chow Hound not sure why I decided to do that one maybe because there are no pics of it on the box lol.

 WIP 1/48 Revell B17G Flying Fortress

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Posted by iampiper13 on Sunday, July 02, 2017 8:56 PM

Primered! And of course as soon as I started the wind picked up lol

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Posted by Chemteacher on Sunday, July 02, 2017 9:06 PM
I'll be watching your progress. A friend gave me this kit a couple of weeks ago. Someone passed it on to him but he is not a builder so he passed it on. Talk about a score! It is the older Monogram boxing with the same markings. All parts were still on the sprues.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Sunday, July 02, 2017 10:21 PM

That's a great score lol my son actually bought this for me awhile ago but I've been waiting for my daughter to get out of school so I could have room on the table to work on it

 WIP 1/48 Revell B17G Flying Fortress

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, July 02, 2017 10:38 PM

I still haven't added this iconic bomber to my collection.

I'll be watching this too.  :)

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Posted by Shipwreck on Monday, July 03, 2017 10:14 AM
iampiper13, with this B-17 along with the B-25 and B-26 you have lined up; you will be pretty bombed out. Have you built a B-29 yet? Like Mike, I have a couple of unbuilt B-17's on the shelf, so your going have to show us how to do it!

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Posted by Jay Jay on Monday, July 03, 2017 11:41 AM

I also have this one in the stash but I'm afraid to start it for fear of messing it up. I'll be watching in ernest for the inspiration and how-to. TY lots for posting.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, July 03, 2017 11:58 AM

Like the others, I am also interested in your build of this kit. I'm really want to know the best proceedure for building a large aircraft like this and whether or not there are any deviations that are logical that deviate from the instructions.

I don't have one in my stash because, between the 17 and the 24 I just prefer (I know I'm in the minority) the looks of the Liberator and, considering that I have so little room in my condo for exihibiting my finished kits, I may end up having to find room for a display in my garage Smile.

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, July 03, 2017 1:49 PM

This is up next for my son and I From the model stash. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 03, 2017 2:34 PM

You're gonna enjoy this kit. I built one many years ago, and another not quite as many years ago. Alas both did not survive to today. OOB, it builds up nice enough. But there is plenty of AM out there to really make this big baby a true beauty. Have fun.

 

BTW, the OD over Neutral Gray is a wise choice. NMF on such a big subject is a real challenge. Although operational wartime NMF B-17s were hardly pristine... 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hodakamax on Monday, July 03, 2017 6:35 PM

A fun kit and actually fairly good. I also did the "Chow Hound" version. You can get some time in this one. I found some pictures and history of it during the build several years ago. I'll see if I can find them. I'll keep an eye on the project, it was fun!

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, July 03, 2017 7:20 PM

That's a great kit to build. It goes together really easy. And yes, it is big, which makes it fun. The only issue is the seam between the two fuesalage sides. It is important to take the time to make sure that it is invisible because it is really obvious.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Monday, July 03, 2017 9:47 PM

Thanks everyone, not sure what I'll teach anyone here though lol It'll be a slow build with the time I have to work on it, right now I've started masking off the clear parts and am going to need to do some research as to the interiour colors before I get to work on it.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 12:02 AM

The interiors were pink! But green chromate might work as a substitute. Bomb bay should be aluminum. Wink

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 12:10 AM

I don't know how accurately the USAF Museum's B-17G was restored. But there are seversl interior photos here. Looks like a Bronze Green cockpit and Interior Green after areas... and the radio compartment in Dull Dark Green.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196270/boeing-b-17g-flying-fortress/

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 2:18 AM

I'll be watching this. Built the Mono boxing back in the mid 80's and its what got me started doing diorama's after seeing the booklet of Shep Paines build that came in the kit.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 8:49 AM

Just looked around the web at B17 pics especially the interior, saw a lot of interior green of various shades including what looks to my like RAF interior and also what I'm guessing is aluminum.

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Posted by Hodakamax on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 9:03 AM

I just Googled B-17 Chow Hound. Lotsa picts and history. This is a fun and educational part of model building. It puts a bit more meaning to the build. Check it out.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 10:25 AM

Regarding interior colors, I rely on Camouflage & Markings, Interior Colors of US Aircraft, 1941-45, Part II by Martin Waligorski. The only final word comes from observation of the particular airframe you are trying to model; but I believe Martin will give you some good ideas. One thing to remember is that most of the bombers had insolation on the cabin walls. We think it was some kind of drab green; but if you look at B-26 Flak Bait, still in her original state, the green mat has faded to a tan color. Bottom line, for modelers, the only thing that is exact is our imaginations!

If you scroll down, you will come to a section on the B-17.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/02/stuff_eng_interior_colours_us_part2.htm

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 11:14 AM
I built this kit twice. The first time in the 70's and I tried to duplicate Shep's dio LOL. My first foray into dios and realism. The second build was in the late 80's. I would love to get this kit and the B-24 again.
Most examples of B-17 interiors I’ve seen are zinc chromate green.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 11:58 AM

One problem with what we see today of WWII aircraft- they are seldom restored to the condition and appearance the had as exactly as built. While we may see Interior Green on today's B-17's,  that color was not used on many if not most. Why? It was not required then due to life span expectation. Corrosion control was not an issue due to short life span so the interior painting for that purpose was dropped in certain areas, particularly the waist and tail section. The nose, cockpit, and radio room interior areas where glare control was the concern, were painted. Erection and Maintenance manuals for the B-17 specified particular colors for those areas- primarily Bronze Green or Dull Dark Green. And as you can see in the link that I posted, there is also insulation cladding on sidewalls in certain areas, which is usually gonna be green or OD. But for groups like the CAF and Collins Foundation who intend to keep their Forts flying, corrosion control is an issue, hence the need for a protective coating on the interior. 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, July 04, 2017 5:43 PM

IMHO, I would not worry about getting the perfect color for the cockpit. I use Taymia Cockpit Green with a litthe dry brushing with tan and black. Once the airplane is finished you really can't see much of the cockpit.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 8:15 PM

I'm thinking of using mostly interior green with a fair amount of aluminum but this may change, still slowly working on the clear parts. I'm thinking of using my rattle can of camo grey for the bottom, its what I used for the P40 and I thought it looked good.Thank you everyone for your guidance

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 8:41 PM

WWII Neutral Gray 41 was a very medium toned color. 

 

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Posted by iampiper13 on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 9:21 PM

stikpusher

WWII Neutral Gray 41 was a very medium toned color. 

 

Looks almost like blue gray

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 9:57 PM

So far I have liked Vallejo's Neutral Grey. It looks right and has that tinge of blue to it. 

Apparently Tamiya's NATO Green can work for the pit, I'm told. I have yet to try it for myself though.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 05, 2017 10:08 PM

The blue tinge is probably from the film type. Notice how dark the blue of the upper sky is in the photo as well. Neutral Gray is just that, neutral in hue, with no hint of blue. The modern shade is lighter than the WWII version on the color. AMC Gray used on modern USAF transports like the C-17 is closer to the WWII color. And depending upon lighting and weather conditions, that color really can change in appearance to the Mk.I eyeball. Much like Haze Gray used on today's USN ships. 

 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, July 06, 2017 2:38 AM

Will be following my friend!

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Mrs. Toshi just purchased for me a Tamiya 1/48 Ki-61 via eBay, when it arrives, as always, I’ll do a WIP.  Thanks to M.Brindos and Model Maniac for the heads up and the inspiration in obtaining this kit for my next build.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, July 06, 2017 9:31 AM

I used Tamyia rattle can Light Ghost Gray on the bottom. I used Tamyia masking tape to mask the edge of the gray paint . 

 

Notice the joint between the two fuselage halves. I did not fill the joint and it is really noticable.

 

  

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Posted by Shipwreck on Thursday, July 06, 2017 12:37 PM

JohnnyK

Notice the joint between the two fuselage halves. I did not fill the joint and it is really noticable.

 

  

 

 

Johnny, your Chow Hound is a nice build. I would suggest that you deal with those seams before you call it finished. Seamless seams are a rather basic to modeling! Haven't you started your own topic on your model; that is where this post should be!

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