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Revell 1/48 B17G WIP

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Revell 1/48 B17G WIP
Posted by iampiper13 on Sunday, July 2, 2017 12:08 PM

My goodness this thing is huge,  I'll be doing the olive drab Chow Hound not sure why I decided to do that one maybe because there are no pics of it on the box lol.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Sunday, July 2, 2017 8:56 PM

Primered! And of course as soon as I started the wind picked up lol

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Posted by Chemteacher on Sunday, July 2, 2017 9:06 PM
I'll be watching your progress. A friend gave me this kit a couple of weeks ago. Someone passed it on to him but he is not a builder so he passed it on. Talk about a score! It is the older Monogram boxing with the same markings. All parts were still on the sprues.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:21 PM

That's a great score lol my son actually bought this for me awhile ago but I've been waiting for my daughter to get out of school so I could have room on the table to work on it

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Posted by M. Brindos on Sunday, July 2, 2017 10:38 PM

I still haven't added this iconic bomber to my collection.

I'll be watching this too.  :)

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by Shipwreck on Monday, July 3, 2017 10:14 AM
iampiper13, with this B-17 along with the B-25 and B-26 you have lined up; you will be pretty bombed out. Have you built a B-29 yet? Like Mike, I have a couple of unbuilt B-17's on the shelf, so your going have to show us how to do it!

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Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by Jay Jay on Monday, July 3, 2017 11:41 AM

I also have this one in the stash but I'm afraid to start it for fear of messing it up. I'll be watching in ernest for the inspiration and how-to. TY lots for posting.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, July 3, 2017 11:58 AM

Like the others, I am also interested in your build of this kit. I'm really want to know the best proceedure for building a large aircraft like this and whether or not there are any deviations that are logical that deviate from the instructions.

I don't have one in my stash because, between the 17 and the 24 I just prefer (I know I'm in the minority) the looks of the Liberator and, considering that I have so little room in my condo for exihibiting my finished kits, I may end up having to find room for a display in my garage Smile.

Mike

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Posted by airtrans Crash on Monday, July 3, 2017 1:49 PM

This is up next for my son and I From the model stash. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, July 3, 2017 2:34 PM

You're gonna enjoy this kit. I built one many years ago, and another not quite as many years ago. Alas both did not survive to today. OOB, it builds up nice enough. But there is plenty of AM out there to really make this big baby a true beauty. Have fun.

 

BTW, the OD over Neutral Gray is a wise choice. NMF on such a big subject is a real challenge. Although operational wartime NMF B-17s were hardly pristine... 

 

 

 

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Posted by Hodakamax on Monday, July 3, 2017 6:35 PM

A fun kit and actually fairly good. I also did the "Chow Hound" version. You can get some time in this one. I found some pictures and history of it during the build several years ago. I'll see if I can find them. I'll keep an eye on the project, it was fun!

Max

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, July 3, 2017 7:20 PM

That's a great kit to build. It goes together really easy. And yes, it is big, which makes it fun. The only issue is the seam between the two fuesalage sides. It is important to take the time to make sure that it is invisible because it is really obvious.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Monday, July 3, 2017 9:47 PM

Thanks everyone, not sure what I'll teach anyone here though lol It'll be a slow build with the time I have to work on it, right now I've started masking off the clear parts and am going to need to do some research as to the interiour colors before I get to work on it.

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Posted by M. Brindos on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 12:02 AM

The interiors were pink! But green chromate might work as a substitute. Bomb bay should be aluminum. Wink

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 12:10 AM

I don't know how accurately the USAF Museum's B-17G was restored. But there are seversl interior photos here. Looks like a Bronze Green cockpit and Interior Green after areas... and the radio compartment in Dull Dark Green.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196270/boeing-b-17g-flying-fortress/

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 2:18 AM

I'll be watching this. Built the Mono boxing back in the mid 80's and its what got me started doing diorama's after seeing the booklet of Shep Paines build that came in the kit.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 8:49 AM

Just looked around the web at B17 pics especially the interior, saw a lot of interior green of various shades including what looks to my like RAF interior and also what I'm guessing is aluminum.

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Posted by Hodakamax on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 9:03 AM

I just Googled B-17 Chow Hound. Lotsa picts and history. This is a fun and educational part of model building. It puts a bit more meaning to the build. Check it out.

Max

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Posted by Shipwreck on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 10:25 AM

Regarding interior colors, I rely on Camouflage & Markings, Interior Colors of US Aircraft, 1941-45, Part II by Martin Waligorski. The only final word comes from observation of the particular airframe you are trying to model; but I believe Martin will give you some good ideas. One thing to remember is that most of the bombers had insolation on the cabin walls. We think it was some kind of drab green; but if you look at B-26 Flak Bait, still in her original state, the green mat has faded to a tan color. Bottom line, for modelers, the only thing that is exact is our imaginations!

If you scroll down, you will come to a section on the B-17.

http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/magazine/2004/02/stuff_eng_interior_colours_us_part2.htm

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Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 11:14 AM
I built this kit twice. The first time in the 70's and I tried to duplicate Shep's dio LOL. My first foray into dios and realism. The second build was in the late 80's. I would love to get this kit and the B-24 again.
Most examples of B-17 interiors I’ve seen are zinc chromate green.

Steve

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 11:58 AM

One problem with what we see today of WWII aircraft- they are seldom restored to the condition and appearance the had as exactly as built. While we may see Interior Green on today's B-17's,  that color was not used on many if not most. Why? It was not required then due to life span expectation. Corrosion control was not an issue due to short life span so the interior painting for that purpose was dropped in certain areas, particularly the waist and tail section. The nose, cockpit, and radio room interior areas where glare control was the concern, were painted. Erection and Maintenance manuals for the B-17 specified particular colors for those areas- primarily Bronze Green or Dull Dark Green. And as you can see in the link that I posted, there is also insulation cladding on sidewalls in certain areas, which is usually gonna be green or OD. But for groups like the CAF and Collins Foundation who intend to keep their Forts flying, corrosion control is an issue, hence the need for a protective coating on the interior. 

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, July 4, 2017 5:43 PM

IMHO, I would not worry about getting the perfect color for the cockpit. I use Taymia Cockpit Green with a litthe dry brushing with tan and black. Once the airplane is finished you really can't see much of the cockpit.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by iampiper13 on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 8:15 PM

I'm thinking of using mostly interior green with a fair amount of aluminum but this may change, still slowly working on the clear parts. I'm thinking of using my rattle can of camo grey for the bottom, its what I used for the P40 and I thought it looked good.Thank you everyone for your guidance

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 8:41 PM

WWII Neutral Gray 41 was a very medium toned color. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by iampiper13 on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 9:21 PM

stikpusher

WWII Neutral Gray 41 was a very medium toned color. 

 

Looks almost like blue gray

 

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Posted by M. Brindos on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 9:57 PM

So far I have liked Vallejo's Neutral Grey. It looks right and has that tinge of blue to it. 

Apparently Tamiya's NATO Green can work for the pit, I'm told. I have yet to try it for myself though.

- Mike Brindos "Lost Boy"

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 5, 2017 10:08 PM

The blue tinge is probably from the film type. Notice how dark the blue of the upper sky is in the photo as well. Neutral Gray is just that, neutral in hue, with no hint of blue. The modern shade is lighter than the WWII version on the color. AMC Gray used on modern USAF transports like the C-17 is closer to the WWII color. And depending upon lighting and weather conditions, that color really can change in appearance to the Mk.I eyeball. Much like Haze Gray used on today's USN ships. 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, July 6, 2017 2:38 AM

Will be following my friend!

Toshi

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, July 6, 2017 9:31 AM

I used Tamyia rattle can Light Ghost Gray on the bottom. I used Tamyia masking tape to mask the edge of the gray paint . 

 

Notice the joint between the two fuselage halves. I did not fill the joint and it is really noticable.

 

  

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Thursday, July 6, 2017 12:37 PM

JohnnyK

Notice the joint between the two fuselage halves. I did not fill the joint and it is really noticable.

 

  

 

 

Johnny, your Chow Hound is a nice build. I would suggest that you deal with those seams before you call it finished. Seamless seams are a rather basic to modeling! Haven't you started your own topic on your model; that is where this post should be!

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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