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WIP 10/17/17 Original Cellophane Wrapped Monogram P-61 Black Widow with After Market Galore!

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fox
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  • From: Coatesville, Pa.
Posted by fox on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:40 PM

Congrats on the anniversary! As usual, I'll be watching your build. I've learned a few new things from watching your work. Maybe some day I can take a trip across the big lake and get some 1 on 1 lessons. The wife won't fly and I can't swim, so I'll just have to wait until they build the tunnel or a bridge.Wink

Jim  Captain

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   On the Bench:   Revell 1/48 Ju 52/3m - 50%;  Revell 1/96 USS Kearsarge - 20% 

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

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Posted by roger_wilco on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 5:53 PM
Looking forward to this build and congrats on your three year anniversary on the FSM forums. I don't post as often as I used to, but still drop in and check the posts.I hope you're doing well Toshi.

"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want, and above all have fun!" - RIP Modeler Al. 

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:20 PM

roger_wilco
Looking forward to this build and congrats on your three year anniversary on the FSM forums. I don't post as often as I used to, but still drop in and check the posts.I hope you're doing well Toshi.
 

Thank you roger_wilco.  Don’t worry about posting your presence alone is enough.  Thank you for always supporting my threads.

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:42 PM

 

Retired due to work related injury

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 7:42 PM

 

Retired due to work related injury

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by littletimmy on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:23 PM

Wow ! Your'e already "off and running".

I just finished opening the box..... still sniffing the part's tree's.

I should be able to start mine this weekend........

You will probably be done by then.

Definatly looking forward to seeing you'r engines being assembled. They are "ALWAYS" like perfect gem's

                      Dont worry about the thumbprint... paint it rust and call it "Battle damage" !

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:08 PM

I remember that kit from my youth years. Wanted to do the exact replica of the diorama as shown on the box. Failed miserably. It’s a big old kit yet a fun one to build. 

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Posted by Chemteacher on Wednesday, October 11, 2017 9:15 PM
This will be neat to follow. I've always liked this plane--just thought the top turret was cool. However, I never purchased the kit. I wasn't sure if my skills were up for it as a kid and probably not even now.

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 2:58 AM

littletimmy

Wow ! Your'e already "off and running".

I just finished opening the box..... still sniffing the part's tree's.

I should be able to start mine this weekend........

You will probably be done by then.

Definatly looking forward to seeing you'r engines being assembled. They are "ALWAYS" like perfect gem's

 

Just doing my usual opening start.  Nowadays I try to build around my grandsons schedule as we babysit him several times a week.  So I try to build as much as I can.  lol!  No way I’ll be done by this weekend.  

The Vector engine‘s are by far some of the most detailed AM items for this kit.  Plus by adding the cowling, this is a nice touch! 

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:09 AM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

I remember that kit from my youth years. Wanted to do the exact replica of the diorama as shown on the box. Failed miserably. It’s a big old kit yet a fun one to build. 

 

lol, yes, I too tried the diorama as a child and failed miserably.  For it‘s era, Monogram did a great job!  I also enjoyed building the B-24 Liberator when I was a kid, remember that Model. 

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 3:39 AM

Chemteacher
This will be neat to follow. I've always liked this plane--just thought the top turret was cool. However, I never purchased the kit. I wasn't sure if my skills were up for it as a kid and probably not even now.
 

Thank you for following this build.  I too enjoyed the stance of this kit.  But as you pointed out, the top turret is something to behold!  Thanks for the support!

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by BrandonK on Thursday, October 12, 2017 9:09 AM

Toshi

 

 
BrandonK

I have the newer re-release of the P-61 with a resin cockpit set from Lone Star Models. My biggest concern with this kit is the canopy fit issue. There is an aftermarket clear resin kit for the canopy but it is pricey. I would love to see how yours come together.

BK

 

 

 

Is Lone Star Models still in business?  I thought they were defunct.  I noticed everyone is saying that the canopy will be an issue.  The last time, I fixed it with Testors Clear Glue.  

 

I‘ve never heard of a clear resin skin before.  This intrigued me!  I’ll have to go online and see what this is about!

Toshi

 

Here is a link to a site that sells those resin glass pieces. It was just the first one I found, there are others, so look around. http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/46238.html

Here is the link to LSM http://www.lonestarmodels.com/conversions-1-48.html#

This is a single man operation. He is a pro modeler that makes the molds for various kits. You pay him and order what you want and then he pours the molds for you and ships it to you when complete. This can take some time, weeks even. But, when you look around many of the items he sells simply are not available anywhere else. Mike is a great guy and very easy to work with.

BK

On the bench: 2x Monogram 1/48 Kingfishers with cockpits and floats, full kit overhauls each

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 2:44 PM

BrandonK

 

 
Toshi

 

 
BrandonK

I have the newer re-release of the P-61 with a resin cockpit set from Lone Star Models. My biggest concern with this kit is the canopy fit issue. There is an aftermarket clear resin kit for the canopy but it is pricey. I would love to see how yours come together.

BK

 

 

 

Is Lone Star Models still in business?  I thought they were defunct.  I noticed everyone is saying that the canopy will be an issue.  The last time, I fixed it with Testors Clear Glue.  

 

I‘ve never heard of a clear resin skin before.  This intrigued me!  I’ll have to go online and see what this is about!

Toshi

 

 

 

Here is a link to a site that sells those resin glass pieces. It was just the first one I found, there are others, so look around. http://www.hobbyeasy.com/en/data/46238.html

 

Here is the link to LSM http://www.lonestarmodels.com/conversions-1-48.html#

This is a single man operation. He is a pro modeler that makes the molds for various kits. You pay him and order what you want and then he pours the molds for you and ships it to you when complete. This can take some time, weeks even. But, when you look around many of the items he sells simply are not available anywhere else. Mike is a great guy and very easy to work with.

BK

 

Thanks for the information BrandonK!  I really like the Lone Star Models and Hobby Easy links.  They have some really neat stuff.

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:23 PM

I’ve been building so many 1/32 kits with PE for the last several builds, I forgot how small 1/48 PE is.  I thought I got this and was so excited.  It took me several breaks, an hour, and some food before I got done with the seatbelts just for the pilots seat.  

Take a look and tell me what you think.

Toshi

 

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:25 PM

 

Retired due to work related injury

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Johnny1000 on Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:55 PM

Toshi

 

 
Johnny1000

I built that kit as a kid. I can't remember how to the actual build came out but I obsessed over the Shep Paine diorama booklet. A few months ago, I rebought the original boxing of the kit off ebay for cheap mostly to get that booklet sort of out nostalgia more than anything.

I don't think I was seriously considering attempting to build it, at least not any time soon, but I'm excited to watch you do it, and maybe I'll get inspired.

-J 

Oh yes, the Shep Paine diorama booklet was so cool and ahead of it‘s time.  That’s interesting that you purchased the kit just for the booklet.  Now you have to build the kit!  lol!

 

Toshi

Ha! The actual kit kind of scares me, but maybe later. For now I'm excited to see yours come along. Next up for me is a Corsair. 

-J

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    December, 2010
  • From: Salem, Oregon
Posted by 1943Mike on Thursday, October 12, 2017 6:17 PM

 

 Toshi, You asked:

 "What are you building?"  (with reference to the Lone Star Models resin in the image of my last post on this thread).

Answer: My little diorama with the TBM-3 with folded wings. See here:

 

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/174817.aspx?page=4

 

I finished it two weeks ago.

 

 

 

 

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by bstarr3 on Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:17 PM

Nice work, Toshi. Photoetch seatbelts are very tricky, which is why I tried a resin seat on my last project. You've done very nice work with these

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:23 PM

Sounds great!  My favorite number one aircraft of all time!

toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Hunter on Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:28 PM

Hello Toshi,

Man oh man its looks awesome....you did a great job so far with your PE! I'm not surprised. What color green did you apply to the pit?

Hunter 

      

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:44 PM

1943Mike

 

 Toshi, You asked:

 "What are you building?"  (with reference to the Lone Star Models resin in the image of my last post on this thread).

Answer: My little diorama with the TBM-3 with folded wings. See here:

 

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/2/t/174817.aspx?page=4

 

I finished it two weeks ago.

 

 

 

 
 

Oh, now I remember.  I was wondering where that came from, that was a very cool model!

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Thursday, October 12, 2017 8:45 PM

bstarr3

Nice work, Toshi. Photoetch seatbelts are very tricky, which is why I tried a resin seat on my last project. You've done very nice work with these

 

Yes, especially at this scale of 1/48.  Thank you sir!

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 13, 2017 2:55 AM

Hunter

Hello Toshi,

Man oh man its looks awesome....you did a great job so far with your PE! I'm not surprised. What color green did you apply to the pit?

 

Thank you very much Hunter!  These seatbelts were a chore to use.  I wouldn’t recomend them.  They are made of some type of layered paper and they tend to split when bent.  

Personally, I would prefer Eduard PE.  But I managed to get them done.  The color I used is Model Master Green Zinc Chromate #4852.  Thank you for the inquiry as well as the support.

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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  • From: Streetsboro, Ohio
Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 13, 2017 4:03 AM

Keyda81

I have the Revell version of this kit, and I've heard horror stories about the canopy, is it just the old Monogram kit that has the problem or is it both?  Looking forward to watching you tackle this one!

 

Sorry Keyda81 for such a delayed response.  Please forgive me.  Sometimes my mind is literally not where it suppose to be since my accident.  I must have accidentally skipped over your replies and request.  The first P-61 that was my very first build, it was the Revell version of the kit itself.

I’ve read here on this forum in that the original ‘74 boxing is a better fit as the molds were in tip top shape condition.  Hence my purchase of this ‘74 era kit.  I have read as the years have gone by, some forty three years, many a forum member have pointed out that the old molds now have discrepancies.  This also includes the canopy issue.  I’ll just have to see how this works out.  Thank Keyda81 for always supporting my builds.  I so cherish our conversations!

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by kensar on Friday, October 13, 2017 6:45 AM

You are coming along great with this build.  All these aftermarket parts are probably adding a lot to the build time! With good building experience, too.

Kensar

 

Kensar

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 13, 2017 8:08 AM

Looks good Toshi! Those belts may be a chore to use but they look really nice in there! 

"Fairy tales do not tell children the dragons exist. Children already know that dragons exist. Fairy tales tell children that dragons can be killed." -G.K. Chesterton

 

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 13, 2017 11:02 AM

kensar

You are coming along great with this build.  All these aftermarket parts are probably adding a lot to the build time! With good building experience, too.

Kensar

 

 

Thank you kensa.  Yes, the AM parts are tedious at best but it is very fulfilling and exciting when completed.  It is a very great experience for me as a newbie.  Thank you for stopping by!

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Toshi on Friday, October 13, 2017 11:05 AM

Gamera

Looks good Toshi! Those belts may be a chore to use but they look really nice in there! 

 

Thank you Gamera.  After having some difficulty and trials it was a great sense of satisfaction when completed.  Thanks for the input!

Toshi

 

Retired due to work related injury

Married to the most caring, loving, understanding, and beautiful wife in the world.  Mrs. Toshi

 

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Monogram 1/48 Black Widow 1974 boxing with AM Goodies

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Posted by Hunter on Friday, October 13, 2017 11:15 AM

Toshi

 

 
Hunter

Hello Toshi,

Man oh man its looks awesome....you did a great job so far with your PE! I'm not surprised. What color green did you apply to the pit?

 

 

 

Thank you very much Hunter!  These seatbelts were a chore to use.  I wouldn’t recomend them.  They are made of some type of layered paper and they tend to split when bent.  

 

Personally, I would prefer Eduard PE.  But I managed to get them done.  The color I used is Model Master Green Zinc Chromate #4852.  Thank you for the inquiry as well as the support.

Toshi

 

Sorry to hear they were difficult to work with. I wonder if you applied a very small amount of water to them if they would bind easier. Either way it looks fantastic!

Hunter 

      

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    May, 2017
  • From: Denver, Colorado
Posted by MrStecks on Friday, October 13, 2017 11:39 AM

Nice job on the belts there Toshi.  And the whole pit is coming along nicely.  I get really frustrated with PE, but especially with the seat belts.  I know there are options out there and one of these days I'll have to try some.

Cheers, Mark


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