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Final Update--1/48 Monogram B-58 Hustler in Bare Metal Foil WIP

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, July 5, 2019 1:38 PM

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JohnnyK

I am not really sure what happened with the two paints. I am going to paint a sample of Metalizer Aluminum next to a sample of Metalizer Titanium on my test hog. After they dry, I'll wipe them with Testots' enamel thinner and report back regarding my fingings.

 

 

Second time I have to post this. The previous one vanished after selecting “submit reply”. Don’t you love this “improved” site upgrade? 

Please let us know your findings. I would try this now but we will be out of town for a couple of days. I plan to try your method on a test mule next week after returning.

 

I'm going to start the painting the test samples now!

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Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, July 6, 2019 4:30 PM

The paint sample on the left is Testors' Metalizer Aluminum, in the middle is Metalizer Titanium over Metalizer Aluminum, on the right is just Metalizer Titanium. All these paints are lacquer paints.

This is result after I wiped the painted areas with Testors' Enamel Thinner. All three samples look about the same. I did not remove all of the paint and the final appearance can be altered depending on how much paint is removed. I still do not undertand why an enamel thinner would remove lacquer paint. 

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, July 7, 2019 6:44 AM

Thanks for posting your findings. I too find it odd the thinner  removing one and not the other. 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, July 7, 2019 3:58 PM

The first engine pod is finished. Only three more to go.Tongue Tied

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, July 7, 2019 5:20 PM

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The first engine pod is finished. Only three more to go.Tongue Tied

 

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Looks awesome JK. Beer

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Posted by lawdog114 on Tuesday, July 9, 2019 11:12 PM
Possibly the best at this technique that I've ever seen. Beautiful job Johnny..

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, July 14, 2019 10:01 AM

I just finished engine pod #2. This build has slowed down because I am remodeling the house powder room. 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, July 26, 2019 4:43 PM

Engine pod #3 is finisned, and the powder room remodeling is still not finished.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 9:49 AM

All of the engine pods are finished.

The pods are pretty big, especially when compared to an F-86.

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:39 PM

Truly outstanding! Seeing this almost makes me want to tackle NMF again, almost. Looking forward to the next update

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Posted by Tosh on Thursday, August 1, 2019 1:43 AM

You have a hand of platinum!  Everything you touch turns to NMF.  Your never ceases to surprise me.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, August 1, 2019 7:02 AM

WOW that looks awesome! Beer

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, August 1, 2019 2:00 PM

Hey guys, thanks for the very nice words. Now that the remodeling of the Powder Room is finished I'll have more time to finish the B-58. It's going to be one big metal mother when it's finished Indifferent

This is a close-up of the engine pods. They all look just a little different, which is probably how the real pods looked. The trick of wiping Testors' Metalizer Titanium lacqure paint with Testors' enamel thinner really results in a nice finish. Per GMorrison's suggestion, I'll use the same technique on the elevons. The contrast between the dark elevons and the BMF should look great.

 

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Posted by rocker286 on Thursday, August 1, 2019 10:53 PM

Awesome job so far!!

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, August 1, 2019 11:07 PM

It's the best Hustler model I've ever seen.

I spent a bunch of time on mine with the crew seats/ ejection capsules.

The ones on the model aren't too nice, but you can find good photos of those as displayed in museums.

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, August 2, 2019 11:19 AM

GMorrison

It's the best Hustler model I've ever seen.

I spent a bunch of time on mine with the crew seats/ ejection capsules.

The ones on the model aren't too nice, but you can find good photos of those as displayed in museums.

  

Thanks GM. There have been a few different versions of the Monogram Hustler. On one version there was a button that could be pushed to release the bomb (very strange idea). Another version the hatches on all three crew compartments were operable. On my Hustler, only the pilot's hatch is operable.

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, August 2, 2019 11:23 AM

Fantastic work on the pods.  

Thanks,

John

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, August 2, 2019 11:34 AM

I started to add foil to the fuselage and screw marks to the wings. I found a spar drawing on the Internet that I used as a guide for locating the screw marks. The aluminum panels were fastened to the spars with titanium screws instead of rivets.

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Friday, August 2, 2019 4:55 PM

Wow my eyes hurt just thinking about all those screws , looking so tasty!

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Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, August 3, 2019 2:06 PM

This is how I add screws or rivets to my foiled models.

 

First, I find a guide on the Internet showing rivet locations and spacing. 

Second, I mark the spacing of the rivet rows on Post-It notes (these Post-It Notes can be used in a number of locations on both wings). The rows must be equally spaced. The Post It notes are then placed on the model. Note that the first mark is on a pane line and the paper is perpendicular to the panel line.

Third, I mark the rivet spacing onto the model using a marker pen. 

Fourth, I lineup the edge of my high school lettering guide with the first set of marks.

Fifth, I run my RB Productions' rivet tool along the edge of the lettering guide.

The final results are equally spaced, straight and parallel lines of rivets or screws. It takes a while, but the results are nice.

Now, I wonder what Freud would think of this. "Dude, that is not normal, you must be out of your mind. Let me study you for a while. First, let's discuss your mother."

 

 

 

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Saturday, August 3, 2019 7:09 PM

Excellent tutorial on rivet spacing and application, very informative and fascinating. Now get off the couch and back to plastic bashing Big Smile looking forward to the next update

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, August 6, 2019 2:10 PM

The top side is finished. However, I do not like the way the elevons look. I think that I'll repaint them in Testors' Metalizer Titanium and the wipe it off with enamel thinner, the same technique that I used on the engine pods. The problem is that I need to be careful so that the masking tape does not remove the foil.

This a photo of the flip side. I'll foil that side after I repaint the elevons.

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Posted by TREYZX10R on Tuesday, August 6, 2019 8:33 PM

Looking great. Good luck with the repaint on the elevons

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Posted by Jay Jay on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 7:02 AM
You might want to try Post-it-Notes to mask the elivons. Way less sticky on them than tape so they are less prone to mess with the foil.

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 9:56 AM

Jay Jay
You might want to try Post-it-Notes to mask the elivons. Way less sticky on them than tape so they are less prone to mess with the foil.
 

The Post-it-Notes sounds like a good idea. I'll give it a try. I only plan on applying masking at the edge of wing at the elevons. The remainder of the model will be wraped in plastic wrap.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 3:27 PM

Let's talk about the B-58's bombs. One Mk 53, 9 megaton nuke was hung under the fuselage and four Mk 43, 1 megaton nukes were hung under the wings.

The B-58 did not have a bomb bay, so all the bombs had to be hung under the plane. The B-58 also could not hold sufficient fuel inside the wings and inside the fuselage behind the crew, so a large drop tank was required. The solution was to build a combo 4,000 gal. drop tank and bomb (lower item in photo). This thing was huge when comparing it to an F-86.  The 43 Megaton bomb (middle item in photo) was inserted inside the fuel tank. The plane would initially run on the drop tank and then drop it when it was out of fuel. The bomb was then dropped when the time came. An interesting, if not strange,  solution.

Four Mk 43 bombs are included with the kit. A large, deep seem shows up after the two sides of the bombs are assembled. This would require a lot of filler and sanding to fix the seam. Plus, there would probably be flat spots on the round bomb after the sanding was finished. I didn't want to go through with all of that work on four bombs, so I decided to buy resin bombs from Eduards. 

The Eduards bombs have a bunch of parts: Main bomb body, bomb nose, four seperate fins, lifting hooks and decals. I don't know which is worse, fixing the kit's bombs or assembling the Eduards bombs. I think that the Eduards bombs will produce a better result, so I'll go with those.

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, August 8, 2019 10:28 AM

Here is a view of the Mk 53 and Mk 43 bombs.

On the right side of the picture a crane is lowering the Mk53 bomb into the drop tank.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, August 8, 2019 11:16 AM

Hello JohnnyK !

      Listen,I have read the posts, looked at the W.I.P photos and everything .You mention one with three crew hatches and a button for the Bomb. I believe that one was the First Monogram ever marketed. I have two.One is in the shop getting slowly foiled.

     Now as to the comparisons,I don't know what to compare it to. Does anyone make it in 1/48 or 1/72? If so it seems that they all goof. I have Monogram's large B-24 .Oy whatta mess.Talk about bad fitting parts!. On your tail piece .This is what I did. I took the inside block area an added strips until the wing sat at the right level to the unit.

    When I built my first one there wasn't a product on the market to fill in stuff.Of course I didn't know then you could use 3-M Glazing and smoothing putty! Yes, a full blown Automotive product!.

    I do have to say,You have done an awesome job ! ! 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, August 8, 2019 12:28 PM

Tanker - Builder

Hello JohnnyK !

      Listen,I have read the posts, looked at the W.I.P photos and everything .You mention one with three crew hatches and a button for the Bomb. I believe that one was the First Monogram ever marketed. I have two.One is in the shop getting slowly foiled.

     Now as to the comparisons,I don't know what to compare it to. Does anyone make it in 1/48 or 1/72? If so it seems that they all goof. I have Monogram's large B-24 .Oy whatta mess.Talk about bad fitting parts!. On your tail piece .This is what I did. I took the inside block area an added strips until the wing sat at the right level to the unit.

    When I built my first one there wasn't a product on the market to fill in stuff.Of course I didn't know then you could use 3-M Glazing and smoothing putty! Yes, a full blown Automotive product!.

    I do have to say,You have done an awesome job ! ! 

 

Thanks for the suggestions regarding the tail abd tanks for the kind words. I recently finished the Revell 1/48 scale B-24. I don't recall any really bad joint issues except for the nasty joints at the engine nacelles. Those were a real mess. Let me know what joints you are having problems with, I can offer suggestions.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, August 8, 2019 4:27 PM

So I decided to repaint the elevons. I masked off the foiled areas adjacent to the elevons with Post-it-Notes. Then I taped plastic wrap to the Post it Notes. The elevons were sprayed with Testors' Metalizer Titanium lacqure paint.

After the Metalizer paint dried for a day I removed it with a paper towel and Testors' Enamel Thinner. I don't know why, but the enamel thinner dissolves the lacqure paint in no time flat. 

This is a photo before I repainted the elevons. I really like the way the elevons look after they were repainted. They provide a nice contrast to the foil.

This is a photo of a B-58 in flight. The elevons are pretty dark.

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