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Hobby Boss 1/48 P-38L Bare Metal Foil WIP

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  • Member since
    August 2012
  • From: Parker City, IN.
Posted by Rambo on Monday, March 4, 2019 10:05 AM
This is looking really good, you're a mad man with this foil

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  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 4, 2019 11:38 AM

Rambo
This is looking really good, you're a mad man with this foil
 

My next build will be a German tank covered in foil!!! Hahahhahahahaha!!!!!

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 4, 2019 3:58 PM

Time to take a short break from foiling. On to rockets and canopy.

I used a precut mask from Eduard for the canopy. The mask makes life much more easy.

 

HOWEVER, when using Eduard masks, it is real important to pay attention to the notation for "liquid mask". For some dumb reason, Eduard's masks may not protect all of the areas that require protection from paint. I just used a piece of tape to cover the noted area. The following picture shows what happens when I ignored the requirement for a liquid mask on a B-24 turret.

Those two big blobs of paint with the blue arrows should not be there. Also, the triangular shaped blob of paint on the right hand turret should not be there. I ignored the requirement for "liquid mask". I fixed the problem by soaking a paper towel in Purple Power and placing it on the paint After about 15 minutes the paint was soft enough to be removed by a blunt toothpick. You can see on the bottom photo that the paint came off without damaging the clear plastic.

 

 

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, March 4, 2019 4:25 PM

JohnnyK

Thanks for following my build. It is unfortunate that this build is taking so long to complete. Applying foil is a long process.

 

You still manage to build WAY faster than me, and I don’t have foil as an excuse! Stick out tongue

I’d imagine the reason the mask doesn’t cover everything is due to the curvature of the parts. Can’t get the mask to form the way they need with full coverage. Glad you were able to rectify the SNAFU on the B-24 turrets without much trouble!

What paint did you use for the canopy? Why not foil?

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 4, 2019 4:31 PM

I used Testors' Matt Aluminum Metallizer paint straight from a rattle can. I then used Testors' Metallizer sealer.  Using paint is less of a hassel and I've found the foil does not stick very well when it is cut into really thin pieces. Plus, I fear that if I used foil I might slip with the hobby knife and ruin the canopy.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, March 5, 2019 1:44 PM

This kit has an interesting arrangement for its rockets. Five rockets are hung in a rack.

The back of the rockets were solid plastic. I used a drill to make an open exhaust nozzel.  The rockets were painted silver with a white nose. I used a black dry brush to add some dirt to the rockets.

Almost finished with the foil. This thing should be finished by the end of this week. The top photo shows the foil in different colors. Bare Metal Foil has a natural grain and if the foil is rotated the light reflects off the different direction of the grain causing a change in color. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Wednesday, March 6, 2019 2:01 PM

JohnnyK

I used Testors' Matt Aluminum Metallizer paint straight from a rattle can. I then used Testors' Metallizer sealer.  Using paint is less of a hassel and I've found the foil does not stick very well when it is cut into really thin pieces. Plus, I fear that if I used foil I might slip with the hobby knife and ruin the canopy.

 

I figured you had a good reason! Makes sense to me, just have to look out for the pesky liquid mask call outs!

I think there was a reason for the “Christmas tree” rocket mounts explained in one of the P-38 books I have (Walk Around and Detail & Scale), but I can’t remember it at the moment, and I don’t have access to my books. Some help I am... I’m sure someone else knows too. 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, March 9, 2019 10:30 AM

The foiling is finally finished. The model went together really easy. Everything lined up perfectly and the booms and wings are perfectly aligned. HOWEVER, this was one big pain in the heinie to foil. My B-29 was less hassel to foil than this kit. So many small panels and curved panels at the wing roots. This kit has one big problem. There are no landing lights!! The landing lights are molded as solid plastic!! Hobby Boss spent a lot of time engineering a nice kit and they did not included clear landing lights. Next, final assembly.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, March 10, 2019 12:05 PM

Oh wow, looks perfect!!! 

I suppose you could just drill out the lights and put some Krystal Kleer in there. Or just paint them silver and put a drop of translucent paint over it. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Sunday, March 10, 2019 1:53 PM

I like the Krystal Kleer idea.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    February 2005
  • From: Cleveland, OH
Posted by RadMax8 on Monday, March 11, 2019 4:19 AM

Your efforts were well worth it. Nicely done!

You should be able to tackle the landing light issue with one hand tied behind your back, considering all the foiling challenges you faced on this one!

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 4:43 PM

The foiling is finished, now it's time for final assembly of all the parts.

The radiator pods were glued and clamped to the two booms.

This kit has a really good way of attaching the props to the nacelles. A vinyl tube (plug) is used to hold the prop and spinner onto the shaft. 

Note the vinyl tube.

First, the prop is placed over the shaft and then the vinyl tube is placed over the shaft. This holds the prop in place.  

Then, the spinner is pressed over the vinyl tube. This allows the prop to be removed for transportation of the model. A really ingenious solution!!! I wish other kits did this.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 5:05 PM

JK the P38 looks stunning. You did a superb foiling job.

Gamera’s idea works good for lights. Also Hobby Lobby has some Gemstones that come in all sizes and colors that will also work.

You can also use the chrome Mylar found in some snack bags. Depending on the light, I punch out a disk and use it as the reflector inside the lamp.  I recently posted my F20A here and the light can be seen in one of the pictures. 

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

  • Member since
    January 2015
Posted by TheMongoose on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 5:58 PM

This looks like the P-38 kit I’d like to build. so glad you posted the wip and gave us a tour of assembly!

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 7:03 PM

The kit goes together real easy. No big issues unless you intend to foil it Confused No alaignment issues and no nasty gaps at any seams.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 5:26 PM

 

Now it's starting to look like a P-38. Next will be the Tower of Terror (applying the decals). I have never used Hobby Boss decals. I hope that there will be no problems.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    February 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:47 AM
Awesome job! Curious, how did you deal with the molded in nose guns? That looks to be a weak spot in an otherwise awesome kit.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, March 14, 2019 11:57 AM

Bad news!!!! The decal's carrier film is very visible. I will have to trim away the carrier film from each decal. Since this model is finished in BMF I can't coat it in a gloss clear paint prior to applying the decals. That would make the foil look like a painted surface. 

This is a photo of my B-24J with decals from KitsWorld. The carrier film was crystal clear and required no trimming. Unfortunetly, KitsWorld has no decals for a P-38. They do have decals for a P-51. Maybe I should ust use those.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    November 2008
  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM

That’s the problem with some decals. There’s the ones with the invisible carrier film and the others that need to be individually trimmed up to the color line. 

 GIFMaker.org_jy_Ayj_O

 

 

Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:35 PM

lawdog114
Awesome job! Curious, how did you deal with the molded in nose guns? That looks to be a weak spot in an otherwise awesome kit.
 

I painted the guns black using a very small brush. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:11 PM

Good news. I just purchased a set of decals from Kits-World. The P-38 is on-hold until the decals arrive from England.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, March 25, 2019 4:03 PM

The KitsWorld decals arrived on Saturday. As usual, the carrier film is crystal clear. Great decals.

I didn't want this plane to look brand new, so I used a Black and Mud wash to dirty up the model. 

The landing gear and landing gear doors have parts that are real fragile. Care must be exercised.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    January 2015
Posted by TheMongoose on Monday, March 25, 2019 9:31 PM

Awesome job!

In the pattern: Scale Shipyard's 1/48 Balao Class Sub! leaning out the list...NOT! Ha, added to it again - Viper MkVii, 1/32 THUD & F-15J plus a weekend madness build!

  • Member since
    February 2012
  • From: Olmsted Township, Ohio
Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, March 28, 2019 1:22 AM
Outstanding....definitely my next p-38. Great subject too.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    June 2013
Posted by bvallot on Thursday, March 28, 2019 10:16 PM

That’s starting to look every bit the part Johnny. Well done so far. I’d love to BMF a plane one day. You’re making me think I shouldn’t be so chickensh!t about it and just do it. =]

Looking forward to the finish. 

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, March 28, 2019 10:47 PM

bvallot

That’s starting to look every bit the part Johnny. Well done so far. I’d love to BMF a plane one day. You’re making me think I shouldn’t be so chickensh!t about it and just do it. =]

Looking forward to the finish. 

 

Dude,

Just do it. Do it. Do it Do it. It feels so good.

 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    June 2013
Posted by bvallot on Friday, March 29, 2019 11:02 AM

LOL. I do have a P-51D I just started. Some of it will be much shinier than in other places.  Perhaps the next one. I'm unsure how I'd go about brightening up what the foil offers. Maybe I'll do a random experimental one off build of something and leave it in NMF. I think I'd feel good about that.

Are you planning on putting any kind of light wash to some of these panel lines??

On the bench:  

Tamiya F4U-1  Kenneth Walsh

 

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, March 29, 2019 1:09 PM

bvallot

LOL. I do have a P-51D I just started. Some of it will be much shinier than in other places.  Perhaps the next one. I'm unsure how I'd go about brightening up what the foil offers. Maybe I'll do a random experimental one off build of something and leave it in NMF. I think I'd feel good about that.

Are you planning on putting any kind of light wash to some of these panel lines??

 

Are you using Bar Metal Foil? If so, have you tried using their Chrpme foil? It is much shiner than Matte Aluminum.  I am not planning on doing a wash on the panel lines. I think that the foiled panel lines look very realistic when compared to a real plane. 

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    March 2015
  • From: Close to Chicago
Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, March 29, 2019 1:17 PM

Oh NooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOops I made a BIG MISTAKE when estimating the amount of weight needed in the nose to keep the nose down. The model has turned out to be a "tail sitter" Super Angry I think I know what happened. When I estimated the amount of weigh to put into the nose I had the landing gear temporarly installed perpendicular to the wings. In actuality, the landing gear is angeled forward about 30 degrees. When the landing gear was glued in place the center of gravity was moved rearward. Now I need to figure out how to fix this.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

  • Member since
    November 2003
  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Friday, March 29, 2019 2:49 PM

JK-first off, this is a great build-very impressive work with the foil-and all of the other aspects of the build too

addIng weigh-is there room behind the IP to insert BBs followed by epoxy shot in via a syringe?

Bob

 

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