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Tamiya P-38F/G Lightning - Just Announced

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, July 26, 2019 12:01 PM

Not sure where the $75 price quote comes from.  I saw pictures of the exhibited kit, shared at Hyperscale here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/tamiya-1-48-p-38f-g-at-tamiya-modelers-gallery-t507237.html

Tamiya's suggested retail there is 4320 yen. So I expect retail prices here of anywhere from $40 to $45 dollars.

I buy kits from HobbyLink Japan, and the exchange usually works out to moving the decimal point on the price in yen two places to the left for dollars, generally speaking.

I'm looking forward to this kit, too, though I'm not chucking my Monogram kits, just as I didn't jettison my Devastators, either, when Great Wall produced their kit.

I like that Tamiya still includes a pilot figure, too.  Having grown up on Monogram in the Seventies, I still like to see a figure come with a kit, even though I acknowledge that there are very good aftermarket figures to be found today.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, July 26, 2019 1:25 PM

the Baron

Not sure where the $75 price quote comes from.  I saw pictures of the exhibited kit, shared at Hyperscale here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/tamiya-1-48-p-38f-g-at-tamiya-modelers-gallery-t507237.html

Tamiya's suggested retail there is 4320 yen. So I expect retail prices here of anywhere from $40 to $45 dollars.

I buy kits from HobbyLink Japan, and the exchange usually works out to moving the decimal point on the price in yen two places to the left for dollars, generally speaking.

I'm looking forward to this kit, too, though I'm not chucking my Monogram kits, just as I didn't jettison my Devastators, either, when Great Wall produced their kit.

I like that Tamiya still includes a pilot figure, too.  Having grown up on Monogram in the Seventies, I still like to see a figure come with a kit, even though I acknowledge that there are very good aftermarket figures to be found today.

 

I wasn't quoting a price that I saw,just guessing.That 40-45 price eould be very welcome,its a pretty big aircraft.

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, July 26, 2019 2:21 PM

Tojo72
 
the Baron

Not sure where the $75 price quote comes from.  I saw pictures of the exhibited kit, shared at Hyperscale here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/tamiya-1-48-p-38f-g-at-tamiya-modelers-gallery-t507237.html

Tamiya's suggested retail there is 4320 yen. So I expect retail prices here of anywhere from $40 to $45 dollars.

I buy kits from HobbyLink Japan, and the exchange usually works out to moving the decimal point on the price in yen two places to the left for dollars, generally speaking.

I'm looking forward to this kit, too, though I'm not chucking my Monogram kits, just as I didn't jettison my Devastators, either, when Great Wall produced their kit.

I like that Tamiya still includes a pilot figure, too.  Having grown up on Monogram in the Seventies, I still like to see a figure come with a kit, even though I acknowledge that there are very good aftermarket figures to be found today. 

I wasn't quoting a price that I saw,just guessing.That 40-45 price eould be very welcome,its a pretty big aircraft.

 
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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 26, 2019 3:24 PM

Tojo72

 

 
the Baron

Not sure where the $75 price quote comes from.  I saw pictures of the exhibited kit, shared at Hyperscale here:

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/hyperscale/tamiya-1-48-p-38f-g-at-tamiya-modelers-gallery-t507237.html

Tamiya's suggested retail there is 4320 yen. So I expect retail prices here of anywhere from $40 to $45 dollars.

I buy kits from HobbyLink Japan, and the exchange usually works out to moving the decimal point on the price in yen two places to the left for dollars, generally speaking.

I'm looking forward to this kit, too, though I'm not chucking my Monogram kits, just as I didn't jettison my Devastators, either, when Great Wall produced their kit.

I like that Tamiya still includes a pilot figure, too.  Having grown up on Monogram in the Seventies, I still like to see a figure come with a kit, even though I acknowledge that there are very good aftermarket figures to be found today.

 

 

 

I wasn't quoting a price that I saw,just guessing.That 40-45 price eould be very welcome,its a pretty big aircraft.

 

$50 sounds very reasonable. The Lightning is in the same size class as other twins like the Mosquito, Beaufighter, or Me-110. Just wider aft of the wings due to the twin booms. 

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, July 26, 2019 4:27 PM

It looks like Tamyia went the same route as Monogram regarding engineering the booms and main wing. The booms are seperate from the wings which makes it really difficult to align the booms. The Hobby Boss P-38 L is super easy to assemble because the booms are molded with the main wings and the center fuselage. The main wings, tail wing, booms and fuselage are split into just two parts.  The Tamyia kit has 11 separate parts. I don't get it?

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Posted by JohnnyK on Friday, July 26, 2019 4:37 PM

It's nice that Tamyia included canopy masks. It would have been really nice if they included a nose weight like they did with their Mig 15.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, July 26, 2019 8:31 PM

JohnnyK

It's nice that Tamyia included canopy masks. It would have been really nice if they included a nose weight like they did with their Mig 15.

 

Their announcement says it comes with a weight.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, July 26, 2019 10:00 PM

Sign me up for one forked tailed devil

Thanks,

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Posted by jeaton01 on Friday, July 26, 2019 10:55 PM

JohnnyK

It looks like Tamyia went the same route as Monogram regarding engineering the booms and main wing. The booms are seperate from the wings which makes it really difficult to align the booms. The Hobby Boss P-38 L is super easy to assemble because the booms are molded with the main wings and the center fuselage. The main wings, tail wing, booms and fuselage are split into just two parts.  The Tamyia kit has 11 separate parts. I don't get it?

I think that method of molding puts a lot of restrictions on the detail that can be incorporated, and does it not put long seams in the midddle of the sides?  I don't like those. I'm looking forward to getting one of these kits, even though I have every model of the P-38 covered in the stash or built already.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, July 27, 2019 10:14 AM

jeaton01

 

 
JohnnyK

It looks like Tamyia went the same route as Monogram regarding engineering the booms and main wing. The booms are seperate from the wings which makes it really difficult to align the booms. The Hobby Boss P-38 L is super easy to assemble because the booms are molded with the main wings and the center fuselage. The main wings, tail wing, booms and fuselage are split into just two parts.  The Tamyia kit has 11 separate parts. I don't get it?

 

 

I think that method of molding puts a lot of restrictions on the detail that can be incorporated, and does it not put long seams in the midddle of the sides?  I don't like those. I'm looking forward to getting one of these kits, even though I have every model of the P-38 covered in the stash or built already.

 

The side seams on the Hobby Boss P-38 are really tight and require minimal touch-up work. A portion of the seam is covered by the radiator pod.

 Tamyia has a well deserved reputation for well engineered kits. I guess that only time will tell regarding their P-38.

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Posted by Aggieman on Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:10 AM

Got a newsletter yesterday from Kitlinx where they are estimating a $70 MSRP for this "large" kit.  Seems a bit high, although in looking at their actual web site, I see an estimated price of $55.99.  That's probably more reasonable.

I'd think the P-38 would compare relatively equally to such other Tamiya kits as their Beaufighter, Mosquito, and He219, which go between $35 and $46 on the Kitlinx site.  The Betty bomber is a bigger aircraft and lists for $67.

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, July 29, 2019 12:01 PM

Aggieman

Got a newsletter yesterday from Kitlinx where they are estimating a $70 MSRP for this "large" kit.  Seems a bit high, although in looking at their actual web site, I see an estimated price of $55.99.  That's probably more reasonable.

I'd think the P-38 would compare relatively equally to such other Tamiya kits as their Beaufighter, Mosquito, and He219, which go between $35 and $46 on the Kitlinx site.  The Betty bomber is a bigger aircraft and lists for $67. 

I'm waiting to see if and when HobbyLink Japan might offer it.  It's through HLJ that I have my experience buying new kits at retail from Japanese makers, though that's overwhelmingly sci-fi kits.  HLJ's prices generally work out to a conversion of yen to dollars by dividing the price in yen by 100.  I'll be curious to see if the same is true with this kit, or if they mark it up as much as the report from Kitlinx.  And yes, $50 isn't bad, either.  We'll see how it comes out.

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Posted by mic53mlb on Monday, July 29, 2019 2:59 PM
It's $68.00 on Mega Hobby Preorder plus shipping, they're saying 4th Quarter/November this year. They're saying retail is $80.00.
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Posted by waikong on Tuesday, July 30, 2019 4:09 PM

Better build my Hasegawa p-38 while I still can before this comes out. :) Luckymodel.com from Hong Kong has it listed for $50.99 USD, their prices for Tamiya kits are usually 15-20% cheaper than US retailers, but you have to add in higher shipping $12.+ in this case, so $63.44 from them airmailed.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, July 31, 2019 8:14 PM
I shall build about 20 or 30 of these. In my opinion however, they are doing themselves a disservice if they charge $80.00 for this kit. I suspect it would impact sales a bit. Then again, anyone who has built the others knows it's much needed, so they may know what they're doing. I still cringe at the thought of another Hasegawa P-38.

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:10 PM

waikong

Better build my Hasegawa p-38 while I still can before this comes out. :) Luckymodel.com from Hong Kong has it listed for $50.99 USD, their prices for Tamiya kits are usually 15-20% cheaper than US retailers, but you have to add in higher shipping $12.+ in this case, so $63.44 from them airmailed. 

Yeah, Luckymodel's price is about in-line with the prices HLJ lists other Tamiya twin-engine kits, perhaps a little lower than some of those prices.  I take surface shipping when I buy my kits from HLJ, because I don't need it right away.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 6:02 AM

Someone posted a comprehensive in box review here

https://ninetalis.com/reviews/aircraft/tamiya-1-48-p-38f-g-lightning/

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, August 7, 2019 11:53 AM

That's too bad regarding the tires being molded in two parts. That seam will be difficult to sand due to the diamond tread pattern. However, Eduards probably has a nice resin tire with straight treads. The review is incorrect regarding the canopy. The HobbyBoss P-38 provides the option for either an open or closed canopy. The closed canopy is made in a single molding. In fact, it fits the fuselage so perfectly that glue is not required to keep it in place.

It will be interseting to watch how the kit goes together at https://www.facebook.com/Ninetalis. As I mentioned earlier, there are a lot of parts that make up the fuselage, wings and pods.

 

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 11:54 AM

Well it's listed today on HobbyLink Japan's site for pre-order arriving in October. List price of $47.33 US at the current exchange rate- not bad considering. 

https://hlj.com/1-48-scale-lockheed-p-38-f-g-lightning-tam61120

 

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 12:22 PM

Gamera

Well it's listed today on HobbyLink Japan's site for pre-order arriving in October. List price of $47.33 US at the current exchange rate- not bad considering. 

https://hlj.com/1-48-scale-lockheed-p-38-f-g-lightning-tam61120 

And they all laughed at me when I said it Wink

Thanks for the heads-up, Gamera!  I placed my order, threw in some MaK stuff, too.

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Posted by lowfly on Tuesday, September 3, 2019 3:49 PM

This looks to be a really good kit. The review goes on and on about the fit and how everything locks into place.  May have to pick one up.

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 3:53 AM
That’s definitely better than $80. I imagine you’ll eventually be able to find it a little cheaper on eBay.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 8:26 PM

I'd love to see you guys build one.

I'm going to wait for a J/L model, most of the decals I have for P-38s are for those.

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Posted by waikong on Wednesday, September 4, 2019 11:40 PM
There goes my goal of not buying another kit this year

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Posted by the Baron on Thursday, September 5, 2019 10:58 AM

lawdog114

That’s definitely better than $80. I imagine you’ll eventually be able to find it a little cheaper on eBay.

It's certainly possible that someone will sell it cheaper on eBay, or elsewhere on the second-hand market.  But I think it's highly unlikely for at least a year after release.

I think rather that we will see asking prices at or above the MSRP for the kit, until the initial demand dies down.  I have seen that in similar situations.  People will buy the kit and flip it, first.  The lower prices will come as people buy it, then have to get rid of it for whatever reason.  And the more motivated someone is to unload it, the more likely he'll offer it for a bargain price.

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Posted by mic53mlb on Friday, September 6, 2019 6:38 PM

If this kit is as good as Tamiya's 1/48 Spitfire MK I and other recent kits I'll spend the $80.00. My reasoning not to pre-order this kit and buy the 1/48 Spitfire MK I is I still haven't built my 1/48 Tamiya Me109E3 ( I bought with my deceased Grandfather USAAF WWII/model buddy my whole life) or 1/48 Hasagawa P-40E ( favorite WWII fighter). I have pretty much everything I need just don't have the work space.... working on that. You guys keep me in the game !!

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 2:02 AM

the Baron
I think rather that we will see asking prices at or above the MSRP for the kit, until the initial demand dies down. I have seen that in similar situations. People will buy the kit and flip it, first. The lower prices will come as people buy it, then have to get rid of it for whatever reason. And the more motivated someone is to unload it, the more likely he'll offer it for a bargain price.

 

Agree........That's why I ordered two Wink.  In regards o demand, this thing is probably up there with the ever elusive new tooled 1/48 B-17 we desperately want.  The white box version is pushing $150 on ebay right  now. Personally, I'd rather wait a few weeks than pay almost triple the MSRP.    

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Posted by mic53mlb on Saturday, September 7, 2019 5:50 PM

Whooaa !! new tooled B-17 in 1/48 ??!! Lawdog114 of whom ( manufacturer) do we speak of ?? I want to stay true to subject on this thread but I am intrigued.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, September 7, 2019 6:11 PM

Me too!! What's up about a new 1/48 B-17?

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 7:16 PM

JohnnyK

Me too!! What's up about a new 1/48 B-17?

 

Ever elusive, meaning we desperately want one, but companies keep making new Bf 109s instead.  My point was that we desperately wanted a new P-38 and we finally got one.  Maybe someone will tackle the ole 17 eventually.   

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