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1/32 Hasegawa P-40E 23rd FG “Flying Tigers” (Finished)

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 2:12 AM

fox

Outstanding work!!! I'm learning a lot from this. Yes

Jim  Captain

 

Thanks Jim

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 2:18 AM

TREYZX10R

Nicely done Joe, I appreciate what that took to get right . Makes it nice to get a good fitting kit after dealing with that kind of surgery.

 

Thanks Trey

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 2:21 AM

Mopar Madness

Oh man.  They make you chop the fuselage?!  Shame, shame Hasegawa. Just think of how much satisfaction you’ll get when you look at the final product!

 

They chop it up for you, poorly at that.  Like I said, the genius who designed this turkey should be fired.  Way too much uneccesary work. 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 3:17 AM

It seems the worse is over.  I figured I'd share my marathon painting session last night as I binge watched Ghost Hunters (which scares me). After check seams one final time,  I preshaded the panel lines.  

I broke out the Montex masks and got painting.  It was easy as it only consisted of two stars and "104" on the fuselage.  I also threw down the blue fuse band at this time.  I used XF-8 Blue cut with white until it matched the decal.  I wish they would have included the shark mouth.  Quite frankly, the use of the kit decal worries me.

As I continue to wait for the AK Real Colors to arrive, I did some research on paint colors.  Like the earlier B/C AVG planes, this particular subject seems to have been painted for RAF use by Berry Brothers, who were sub contracted by Curtiss.  They called them "Dupont RAF equilavent", as Dupont was the paint brand.  I read the paints varied in shades.   Rather than continue to wait for my AK paints, I figured I'd mix my own concoction with Tamiya paint.  I get impatient sometimes.  The undersides were apparently done in light grey instead of Sky or Duck Egg.  I went with half XF-53 Neutral Grey and half XF-19 Sky Grey.  I added white to marble it up in a reverse black base technique.  Control surfaces were lightened too.    

For the Dark Earth I went more brown.  I used 75% XF-52 Earth with a 25% XF-64 Red Brown.  

I added some XF-57 Buff and faded that turkey out a bit. I used the same marbling technique.

I used blue tac worms to tape off the camo pattern. 

 Cheap masking tape eliminates overspray issues.

XF-81 RAF is then fired down.  I know, what a mess. This was also faded with the marbling technique using XF-57 Buff. 

Everything removed.  I‘m pleased so far. 

I presume these had RAF markings at one time which were painted out.  I simulated this here and on the top starboard wing.  

Next I will start the weathering process with a postshade.

 "Can you fly this plane and land it?...Surely you can't be serious....I am serious, and don't call me Shirley"

 

 

 

 

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Posted by damouav on Saturday, September 7, 2019 4:36 AM

I dont belive a court jester could pull off a result like this! Wink

Great work, as usual.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 6:29 AM

damouav

I dont belive a court jester could pull off a result like this! Wink

Great work, as usual.

 

Sure they could. Most specialize in magic tricks. 

 

...and thanks Damian. 

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Posted by Josh_the_painter on Saturday, September 7, 2019 6:32 AM

Those colous look perfect to my eyes. Could you please explain to me the marbling technique? The effect is brilliant!

Josh

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Posted by Hoss WA on Saturday, September 7, 2019 10:41 AM
Hope you’re enjoying the painting process more than the painstaking rework during the build. Looks outstanding! Thanks for sharing the details of your painting sequence. Very interested in the marbling technique.
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Posted by JohnnyK on Saturday, September 7, 2019 10:45 AM

I love, love, love the cockpit. Big Smile

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Posted by richs26 on Saturday, September 7, 2019 12:42 PM

This one is an E-1 from the British order taken back by the US.  The markings were US stars with the red center when it was picked up by the Tigers in Africa from the USAAF.  The 49th FG in Australia and New Guinea also used E-1's, besides the RAAF.

 

 

https://www.asisbiz.com/il2/Hawk-81A/USAAF-23FG.html

104 photo.  Notice it has had an engine change as it has the later fishtail exhausts:

https://www.worldwarphotos.info/gallery/usa/aircrafts-2-3/p-40-warhawk/p-40-avg-flying-tigers-white-104-7-2/

 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:19 AM

Josh_the_painter

Those colous look perfect to my eyes. Could you please explain to me the marbling technique? The effect is brilliant!

Josh

 

Sure Josh, it's basically the lazy modelers version of the black base technique because your not trying to cover all that black.  Start with base color.  Next make it lighter and draw small dots quickly it until it has a marbled appearance.  Next go back with base color and do same thing again.  It results in a non uniform worn look which you see in the pictures. I also throw in a few streaks as well.      

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:20 AM

Hoss WA
Hope you’re enjoying the painting process more than the painstaking rework during the build. Looks outstanding! Thanks for sharing the details of your painting sequence. Very interested in the marbling technique.
 

Thanks Hoss.  Indeed I am. 

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, September 8, 2019 1:21 AM

JohnnyK

I love, love, love the cockpit. Big Smile

 

Thanks Johnny

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Posted by cbaltrin on Sunday, September 8, 2019 6:23 AM

Looks Great! I would love to build this kit one day,  but I can't get one until I finsh my Revell 1/32 version Cool (one of my favorite kits from 'the day')

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Posted by Josh_the_painter on Sunday, September 8, 2019 6:24 AM

lawdog114

 

 
Josh_the_painter

Those colous look perfect to my eyes. Could you please explain to me the marbling technique? The effect is brilliant!

Josh

 

 

 

Sure Josh, it's basically the lazy modelers version of the black base technique because your not trying to cover all that black.  Start with base color.  Next make it lighter and draw small dots quickly it until it has a marbled appearance.  Next go back with base color and do same thing again.  It results in a non uniform worn look which you see in the pictures. I also throw in a few streaks as well.      

 

Thanks! I appreciate you sharing. Will be fun trying it out on the B17 when I get there. 

Josh

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 2:22 AM

Josh_the_painter
Thanks! I appreciate you sharing. Will be fun trying it out on the B17 when I get there.  Josh

Your Welcome Josh

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 2:35 AM

Quick update. 

I add some postshade weathering.

 

I added some streaking along the bottom. I probably could have don't more but I never like to overdo it.  It's too easy to do.

I added some exhaust staining by using diluted XF-57 Buff to simulate heat. Again I probably could have done more.

After clearcoat (X-22 and Mr. Leveling Thinner), I added the decals.  For Hasegawa decals, they performed well.  Thank God!

The sharkmouth settled down nice with lots of MicroSol.  I lucked out here as I could not find this exact mouth on the aftermarket. I'll have to do a bit of paint touching up as I suspect the mouth should go all he way to the edge of the intake.  No big deal.  

 

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Posted by Josh_the_painter on Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:45 AM

Perfect! Aside from all the modification you have had it is a nicely detailed kit. Your paint only enhances it further. The fit looks great. 

The close up shots I can clearly make out the mottled effect, nicely done. And the underside post shading is all airbrushed? 

Im glad you have walked us through your process step by step, its allowed me to learn plenty!

Josh

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Posted by M. Brindos on Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:20 PM

Seriously impressive, Joe!

Love your paintwork on this!!

- Mike Brindos

Figure Painting Moderator -- Genessis-Models

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Posted by damouav on Thursday, September 12, 2019 3:47 PM

Great progress mate, looking brilliant.

Question, have you always used X22 for clearcoat or is this new for your builds?

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:20 PM

Josh_the_painter

Perfect! Aside from all the modification you have had it is a nicely detailed kit. Your paint only enhances it further. The fit looks great. 

The close up shots I can clearly make out the mottled effect, nicely done. And the underside post shading is all airbrushed? 

Im glad you have walked us through your process step by step, its allowed me to learn plenty!

Josh

 

Thanks Josh.  Indeed, all airbrushed.  I used a mix of XF-64 Red Brown and XF-69 NATO Black diluted heavily with 91% alcohol.  I keep it premixed in a glass jar for this purpose.

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:20 PM

M. Brindos

Seriously impressive, Joe!

Love your paintwork on this!!

 

Thanks Mike

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Posted by lawdog114 on Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:24 PM

damouav

Great progress mate, looking brilliant.

Question, have you always used X22 for clearcoat or is this new for your builds?

 

Thanks Damian.  Yep, it's new to me for the last couple builds.  I watched a guy do it on Youtube who said it was the best clear coat out there.  I tried it and love it. No orange peel at all with a rock hard finish.  The key is going back immediately with straight Mr. Leveling Thinner which makes it even smoother like magic. Weird trick but it works.

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Posted by damouav on Thursday, September 12, 2019 10:52 PM

I've tried various clear coats, which Tamiya's X-22 is so far, hands down the best. I was (at great expense) able to buy some Pledge Revive It and have yet to give it a try for clear coats.

 

But great info on the Mr. Levilling Thinners, had not heard of shooting it neat over the X-22. Will give it a go on a test mule.

Thanks

Damian

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Posted by lawdog114 on Friday, September 13, 2019 2:26 AM

damouav

I've tried various clear coats, which Tamiya's X-22 is so far, hands down the best. I was (at great expense) able to buy some Pledge Revive It and have yet to give it a try for clear coats.

 

But great info on the Mr. Levilling Thinners, had not heard of shooting it neat over the X-22. Will give it a go on a test mule.

Thanks

Damian

 

Personally I'd avoid the Pledge, probably the latest incarnation of that Future crap. It used to work great years ago but they have since changed the formula and it won't cure properly.  I'm sure it still works great on floors. 

With this, go half XF-22 and half Mr. Leveling for a few coats, then hit it with straight thinner.  Works great. The only downside is the small size of the X-22 jars and you go through alot quickly.  I ended up cleaning out my LHS recently of their stock.    

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, October 6, 2019 1:39 AM

I finally finished this turkey up. To recap, it's Ed Rector's #104 from the 23rd FG.  Rector scored 10.5 kills and holds the distinction of having the first AVG kill. The kit is good, but would be outstanding if it wasn't for all the plugs and inserts, which don't fall on panel lines or fit particularly well.  Unfortunately it really detracts from the enjoyment of building the Hasegawa P-40 series. I truly believe whomever designed this kit should be fired or at least demoted to janitorial duties.

Extras included Eduard Look IP/seatbelts and Brassin Tires.  Main markings were done with Montex masks. Kit specific markings, like the sharkmouth, are kit decals.  This scared me but they surprisingly worked very well.  

Overall I'm pretty happy with it.  I must say I did enjoy being back in 1/32 scale. Very easy on the eyes.  I even started a 1/32 109.  

 

  

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Posted by BrandonK on Sunday, October 6, 2019 11:33 AM

Very nice, Joe, as always. I love the Flying Tigers P-40's. One of the coolest AC of the war. 

BK

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Posted by fox on Sunday, October 6, 2019 7:45 PM

O-U-T-S-T-A-N-D-I-N-G work Joe! Toast Toast Toast

Jim  Captain

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, October 6, 2019 8:44 PM

LD, I've been searching for a new gloss coat.  So if I'm understanding this correctly, you use 1/2 X-22 Clear Gloss and 1/2 Mr. Leveling Thinner for a couple coats, then immediately overspray with straight Leveling Thinner after you applied the half and half coats?  How heavily do you apply the straight thinner?

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Posted by lawdog114 on Sunday, October 6, 2019 9:36 PM

BrandonK

Very nice, Joe, as always. I love the Flying Tigers P-40's. One of the coolest AC of the war. 

BK

 

Thanks Brandon

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