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Posted by PatW on Thursday, October 3, 2019 2:10 AM

No Josh they had no further info of where they went or the flying boat that was sent out to look for them! But I don't know how old the programme was on Nat Geo.

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Posted by Josh_the_painter on Wednesday, October 2, 2019 7:27 AM

Subscribed! Looking foward to your build. The story of Flight 19 was always a favourite of mine... did they have new information on where they ditched? or is it still up in the air (no pun) for sea or swamp?

Josh

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Posted by PatW on Wednesday, October 2, 2019 2:15 AM

Thanks stikpusher for more info. I hope I measure up with this build as more info to help out!

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:44 PM

Here is a link to the Flight 19 page on the NAS Ft Lauderdale Museum website. There is an aircrew group photo with one of the aircraft, which is likely one of the lost aircraft. It shows a well weathered overall Sea Blue. A semi gloss, or better yet satin finish would work. Remember that these were well used trainer aircraft. 

https://www.nasflmuseum.com/flight-19.html

 

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Posted by PatW on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 4:17 PM

Having started this search since seeing the TV programme just yesterday, others tell me it's a Sea Blue Gloss finish but that looks to be semi gloss or matte finish. But still searching.

One thing I've found is that the colour is difficult to get here in the UK. One online supplier has it in a spray can (that is my preferred way to paint) but only in a 16ml can! The standard size for spray cans here is 100ml! Would 16ml be enough do you think?

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 1:40 PM

No it's pretty much there at say 90%. Little things- the tail number on your drawing and the AM drawing is "stencil", very typical of the period. And the national insignia on the sides of the fuselage is slanted.

One thing I'd ask the experts- was the Sea Blue all one finish, or are the topsides matte not gloss etc. I'll see what I can dig up, but I don't have any books about the Avenger.

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Posted by PatW on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 1:02 PM

Thanks GMorrison for your input, yes I realise the first image wasn't up to scratch.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 11:16 AM

Your second image there, and the AM drawing; look pretty good to me.

As pointed out, the first CG drawing has lots of problems. 

 

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Posted by PatW on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 10:47 AM

Thanks guys, for all the info! Ebay here in the UK have told that the kit is on it's way so I'll be able to look at starting it early next week!

I also found this today...

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Posted by nkm1416@info.com.ph on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 9:09 AM

Here's from Accurate Miniature

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Posted by nkm1416@info.com.ph on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 8:28 AM

It is probably overall gloss sea blue. Scale models of Flight 19 Avengers are shown in that color scheme.

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  • From: Cat Central, NC
Posted by Bronto on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 7:40 AM

The aircraft are in the standard overall ANA 623 gloss sea blue.  Also note that is not an actual photo, but a bad GCI picture.

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Grumman TBM Avengers.
Posted by PatW on Tuesday, October 1, 2019 2:20 AM

I have just watched the Nat Geo channel on Sky where they talk about draining the Bermuda Triangle. They centre on Flight 19 on the 5th December 1945 out of Fort Lauderdale and that the flight of 5 planes disappeared soon afterwards. I've found various pictures on the net of the flight/planes and their markings. The problem I have is, as the pictures are in black and white, what is the aircraft colourway, black, dark blue?

From what research I have done this is a depiction of the flight with correct markings?

 

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