Future use

Chumbley

I was at SJ in the F-4 days and that sim seemed great during the mid 80's. I did get a chance to get into the F-15E sim after I left the AF ( my friend worked there) and at the time it was just basically a procedures trainer, no visual or motion. I think that may be different now. Now the KC-10 sim across the street was Totally diferent. You could really get thrown around in that one and the visuals were amazing. American Airlines used to rent time on it and send their crews down from Raliegh to train on it.

Where are you located now? I'm outside of Buffalo NY.

Eagle334

I was able to get in the sim at SJ about 5-6 years ago. That was probably the most intense thing I've tried to do. Got to be as close as allowable by the flight line too. Good stuff!!

Good to go,
Chumbley

Chumbley

If he was an Eagle, I know he's a great guy !! Hopefully he left Seymour before my beloved squadron became training weanies.

Later
Check Six

eagle334

My sisters, husband was in the 334th (Capt Ron Anderson). He is a WSO. they're at Nellis now. Small world!!!!

chumbley

I may be wrong, but I beleive it's not J&J but Johnson Wax. I think they are out of Racine Wisconsin.

Ihave heard it may be called "Johnson's Clear" over in Europe, but I have no way of knowing for certain.

Future is not actually a floor wax, Eddel. It is an acrylic which coats, clarifies and hardens what it is placed on. Hence the superb results with canopies and with replacing other gloss coats. I imagine that any maker of clear acrylic protectors like Future would have much the same effect. Unfortunately, Future (by Johnson and Johnson) is the only brand that I have ever seen here in Canada. Wish I could be of more help.

I have read of the virtues of Future for a long time now, but have not had any chance to try it out. It's not available in some parts of the world, like where I'm at. I'm especially keen on dipping canopies in the thing, as had been promoted by Paul Boyer. The end result (based on mag photos) looks superb.

Has anyone ever tried other brands of floor wax? Perhaps some other brand works just as well, and is more widely available. Thanks in advance!

There is another way to apply it. "Q-tips" I've seen a fellow modeler do 1/72 C-97's by using about 100-150 Q-tips per model. Only instructions: wipe the Q-tips in one direction only, and most inportantly, use REAL Q-tips. Using them won't leave brushmarks. It's time consuming, but if you don't have an airbrush, it's the next best thing.

And like above, MM Acyrl. That's the best dullcoat around. That's what I use. But if you don't have an airbrush, try using Duncan SS339 "Super Matt". It's an acyrlic dullcoat in a spraycan, look for it a ceramic supply stores. Just make sure you mask over the parts you want to keep clear. ANY dullcoat will give it a frostie look.

The above model heads are right ,NO thiner in Future. Yes use air brush,but
you can dip your parts in it. I dip my canopies and windows all the time. After polishing the glass with #17 Meguiars polish I submerge the whole part in the stuff. Then prop it to drip of f and dry. The windows look like shiny diamonds and
crystal clear. Dull coat is what you feal comfortable with. Testors is good,but I like
Modelmaster Acryl. 2 light coats. Try a few things out and see what works for you.
Good luck Dave h (dhi69@aol.com)

I agree with Butz. Future is best applied with an airbrush and unthinned. Apply at least two light coats at least an hour apart rather than one heavy coat. I use Testors Dullcote for a flat finish after Future and any decals applied have cured for at least 48 hours.

Chumbley
When I use future, I use a airbrush. I do not thin it down what so ever cause it is basically thinned as it is.
As for a flat coat I also airbrush it on. I use mostly Polly Scales flat, gloss and semi gloss. They have a very nice finish.
Hope this helps ya out a bit. Flaps up, Mike