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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Thursday, June 22, 2023 5:51 PM

Nice!  Congrats on becoming a Goblin owner! (heh...not an official nickname for the F-35, but maybe it'll catch on)  I got Eduard's mask set for the newer F-35s with the Z13 overcoat.  I haven't decided if its going to be easier to use the masks or just go with the kit decals.  The Z13 aircraft aren't quite as complex a masking job, but I had already started on my plan for painting with the Have Glass Grey first, and then putting the decals on top...and then Eduard released their mask sets which are designed for the lighter, Neutral Grey going on first. Oops

Oh well...I'll figure something out.  Not really sure how much I like the Eduard set anyway, since they elected to use vinyl for some reason, instead of the Tamiya-style paper masks they normally have.  Something I ended up picking up though, to help with masking the leading edges of the intakes, was this set of masks I found on Ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/225327856131

They're really nicely done, and its all the Tamiya-style paper material.  Something I wasn't expecting when I bought it was all of the extra masks they have in the set.  There are also masks for the GBU-31s, the wheels, the canopy (inside and outside), the exhaust nozzle, and the extra pods that Danish Goblins carry, all included in the kit.  The GBU-31 masks will definitely come in handy, since I'm building mine in full, fangs out, "beast mode".

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Posted by fotofrank on Thursday, June 22, 2023 3:32 PM

Well, my wife bought me the kit a couple of weeks ago! Definitely a build you don't want to hurry through. The engineering is amazing. I like it better than the Tamiya P-38F.

Eagle, you might want to check this out: Eduard EX931 RAM paint mask. I bought the mask set from Sprue Bros. I think painting is going to be easier than the kit decals. Mask set for the top and bottom.

 

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, June 20, 2023 7:40 PM

FINALLY got all moved into my new house and got things squared away enough in my new workshop to pick back up on the F-35 last weekend.  The fit of the intake tunnel assembly into the forward fuselage was a little wonky, but with a little work it came out pretty well.  I'm really loving Apoxie Clay for things like this...lets you fill gaps between parts, and then scribe a nice, even line between those parts without a lot of brain damage.

Did some test fits of the horizontal and vertical stabs, along with the LEFs and TEFs.  The fit on all of those items is typical Tamiya.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, April 18, 2023 8:58 PM

It has been a little while, but I have slowly been making progress on this.  Not a lot of time for modeling in the past few weeks...been in the process of finally buying my dream house in the country.  I'm starting my move out there this weekend.  Cool

Got the upper and lower halves of the forward fuselage together finally.  They went together leaving just a few, tiny gaps that were easily knocked out with the super glue/black Sharpie method.  But, even the small amount of sanding that had to be done took some of the paint off the edges surrounding the black area of the canopy sill.  I was going bonkers trying to figure out the best way to mask that area so I could re-paint the grey that had been knocked off.  "Easy" enough on the sides and rear, but the front end has the stealth faceting, as well as being white instead of black.  I decided to mask the canopy and use that to mask the sill area, but had no idea how I was going to temporarily seal the canopy onto the aircraft to prevent paint from finding its way under the canopy frame.  I was planning on going to Michaels tomorrow to get modeling clay, but then an idea popped into my head that was along the same lines as what I recently started using to protect decals from masking materials.  I used toothpaste as my temporary canopy caulk, and the results were nothing short of amazing.  I was even able to get a sharply defined line between the grey and black (as well as the faceted grey and white areas) by using damp Q-Tips to clean away the bead of excess toothpaste that oozed out when I pressed the canopy into place.  Here is the result of that.  Such a simple, trouble-free solution to a complex problem!

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, March 14, 2023 7:51 PM

jeaton01
The whole point of stealth is the send the radar waves screaming in all directions EXCEPT back to the transmitter!

Well, for a while I was wanting to work on every model except the F-35 because of the masking issue, so I guess that fits too.  Clown

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, March 14, 2023 7:49 PM

Got the cockpit all done and mounted in the upper fuselage.  Eduard released their Space and LOOK kits, so I bought them both.  Their stuff is OK, but I still prefer the Quinta sets.  The colors on the Quinta sets aren't grainy like they are on the Eduard sets, and the grey parts are a lot closer to the right color, but who knows if or when Quinta will release a set...so I went with Eduard to keep things moving.  Overall, I'm pretty happy with the result so far.  Probably not even going to use the LOOK instrument panel because it doesn't look as good as the individual decals in the Space set, and the Space set gives me the choice of a cold and dark cockpit.

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Posted by jeaton01 on Wednesday, March 8, 2023 11:47 AM

Eaglecash867

I'm now convinced that the way stealth aircraft actually work is by the incoming radar pulse seeing all of those facets and compound curves...thinking about how best to reflect from them...and finally throwing its hands up in the air, letting out an exasperated scream...and returning to the transmitting station in frustration.  

 

The whole point of stealth is the send the radar waves screaming in all directions EXCEPT back to the transmitter!Smile Burger

John

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, March 8, 2023 6:43 AM

Thanks guys!  Now its on to pulling the pylons back off the wings to get them painted the lighter grey.  Had them temporarily mounted with white glue to act as masks to keep the plastic underneath clean and bare for permanent mounting later with Tamiya Extra Thin.  Once I get those permanently mounted, the second piece of interal structural support with the main gear wells can go on.  Definitely liking how this whole thing is engineered.

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  • From: Maryland
Posted by wpwar11 on Tuesday, March 7, 2023 9:07 PM

The weapons bay on this kit is incredible.  Nice work Eagle.

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:54 PM

Looks sharp!  Great progress.  I sure hope they do a B & C.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:52 PM

After finally dragging my F-4B project across the finish line, along with my first attempt at working with an all-resin model (the Anigrand Firefox-which is stalled at the moment while I figure out how to blend the rear part of the fuselage with the forward part), I am back on the F-35.

Took a little while to work out how to mask around the weapons bays and main gear bays.  I was driving myself insane with all of the tiny strips of Tamiya masking sticker sheet that I was cutting and placing, and I was only about 1/5 of the way through that.  I'm now convinced that the way stealth aircraft actually work is by the incoming radar pulse seeing all of those facets and compound curves...thinking about how best to reflect from them...and finally throwing its hands up in the air, letting out an exasperated scream...and returning to the transmitting station in frustration.  Its how I was feeling.  But then a really simple solution came to mind that worked.  I decided to get my airbrush down to a fine, pencil-sharp line, and paint the white parts around the perimeter of the door openings first...and then cover those openings with the doors (which, with Tamiya's precise engineering, fit perfectly).  Then it was just a matter of carefully laying down thin layer after thin layer of the FS36170 Camouflage Grey around the doors, using the correct angles to avoid blasting paint into the gaps around the doors.  I ended up with white and grey exactly where I wanted them.

Inside view:

Outside view:

Exhaust tube mounted:

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Friday, January 27, 2023 4:52 PM

Got the exhaust nozzle all painted and put together.  The way it all goes together is pretty slick.  The final set of feathers on it go in really snug, so you have to gently push the sets apart that it slides in between.

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, January 25, 2023 9:31 AM

Coming right along. Good progress, nice work. Yes

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 5:34 PM

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Posted by MrRabbit on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:44 PM

got it.  Thankyou for the clarification :)

 

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 2:01 PM

Oh!!  Nope.  Weighted wheels are made to have the slightly flattened bottom section that the tires on real aircraft do.  They're made to look like there is weight on them, rather than the magical zero gravity wheels and tires that come in most model kits. Cool

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Posted by MrRabbit on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 1:45 PM

one of the pics you posted of aftermark stuff shows "weighted wheels"  Ive never seen those before.  Are they weighted to act as a counter weight for a tail sitter?

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 12:05 PM

I understand that, but how does that relate to the other part of your post about weighted wheels? 

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Posted by MrRabbit on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 11:16 AM

Eaglecash867
Mr. Rabbit, thanks for stopping by. I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

 

A tail sitter =  A model that is too heavy in the back so to get it to sit on its landing gear you have to weight the nose

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:49 AM

Thanks for stopping by, Frank.  I'm definitely deviating from the instructions on this one, because the order they have you do things in doesn't necessarily always make sense.  One more gotcha I found out about is the side panels for the weapons bays.  They fit very nicely, but they are also kind of a flimsy part that is very easy to get slightly out of alignment when cementing them in place.  They also lend to the rigidity of the whole fuselage, so until the cemented plastic re-hardens, that can ALSO throw things out of whack.  Heh...maybe if I hadn't deviated from the instructions for ease of masking/painting that part, it would have gone a little more smoothly.  I guess I can't fault Tamiya on that one.

 

Mr. Rabbit, thanks for stopping by.  I'm not sure I understand what you're asking.

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Posted by MrRabbit on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 10:40 AM

weighted wheels....  is this a tail sitter?

 

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Posted by fotofrank on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 8:56 AM

Eagle, I'm really going to school with your build here. Seeing how you are accomplishing this build is giving me the confidence to attempt this kit later this year. A few years ago I attempted to build the Meng F-35 kit and what a nightmare. As expensive as the kit was, I eventually consigned it all to the recycle bin.

Keep the hits coming.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, January 24, 2023 6:07 AM

Got my stuff from Germany, and I'm very impressed with the quality.  The wheel set is especially nice, with the smallest details crisply replicated...even brake lines and safety wire are molded in.  Here are some pics...only took about a week to get here.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Saturday, January 14, 2023 1:47 PM

Jumped back over to my F-4B project for a bit, since I finally got my MER mounting issues on that squared away.  Ended up finding an on-line specialty part maker in Germany that already has pre-cut paper masks for the Tamiya F-35A, as well as a weighted resin wheel set, so I placed an order with them.  Never used them before, but I have seen lots of good reviews of their stuff on YouTube, and I'm always willing to try new manufacturers.  Ordered yesterday, and today its on its way.  Sent by DHL too, so I'll probably have it by next weekend (DHL is crazy fast for international shipping).

Here is their link if anybody wants to take a look at what they've got.

https://anyz.io/shop

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, January 4, 2023 6:46 AM

jeaton01

I'll take those paint tips and run with them, though I am trying very hard to not buy this gem.

 
I definitely understand that.  Heh...I really don't even like the F-35, but it was a new Tamiya kit, and I had to buy one (well...two) just for the experience of building it.
 
Last night, I was reviewing the instructions to make sure I haven't missed anything in what I have done so far...and, technically, I haven't.  Then I went further in the instructions to start planning for what other subassemblies I was going to be able to get built while I wait for the pending Eduard and Quinta upgrades I want to add.  I ended up finding out that Tamiya DID include a lens for the landing light (actually, its the whole landing light in clear plastic, they just have you mask the lens before painting).  What I thought was the "landing light" earlier was actually the recess the landing light goes into.  Anybody ever tried to drill cured Bondic?  LOL.  Can't be done...even my brand new Titanium drills don't do much more than scratch it when being turned by hand.  So, I have to replace the nose gear strut.  That is where the second kit comes in...bought it when I screwed up with drilling holes in the upper half of the aircraft.  Looking at how previous builds have gone sometimes, paying for replacement sprues and shipping, it just made more financial sense to buy another kit.  Hopefully I'll be left with enough untouched sprues in it that I can part those out on Ebay and maybe make the money back.  Luckily, the sides of the gear well are thin and flexible enough that I was able to extract the strut and will be able to install the new one.
 
When I was looking for the landing light lens, I looked through the manual, over and over, and never saw it...until last night.  Here's the step its in.  Its part B5...plain as day...but I just repeatedly missed it when I was looking for it.  So, I guess its the printed version of losing a part to the carpet monster...the only way to find it is if you stop looking for it. Bang Head
 

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, January 2, 2023 10:56 PM

I'll take those paint tips and run with them, though I am trying very hard to not buy this gem.

John

To see build logs for my models:  http://goldeneramodel.com/mymodels/mymodels.html

 

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Monday, January 2, 2023 5:29 PM

Thanks guys!

Doing test fits and primer/paint shots here and there around the bottom half of the aircraft and weapons bay to get everything painted that needs to be painted...along with figuring out the best sequence to paint things in to minimize masking headaches.  Also got the Tamiya LP-1 base coat on for the final coat of Alclad Chrome that will go into the bottom sensor bay.

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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, January 2, 2023 9:39 AM

Coming along nicely, great detail work. 

BK

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Posted by TheMongoose on Sunday, January 1, 2023 9:31 PM

Wow that looks busy. Keep it coming. Excellent build!

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