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Howard Hughes zero?

  • If anyone can clear up this urban legend I would be pleased.I'm 41 yrs.old and have heard the rumor since childhood that the japenese zero was actually a Howard Hughes design.I don 't know if the new movie addresses this or not as I have not seen the movie,can anyone clear this up for me.Thank you.
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  • In fact, during the movie, Hughes mentions that the Japanese "stole" his pre-war racer design and fielded it as the Zero. In Martin Caidin's writings, there is no mention of this as being a fact. He does relate that the designer of the Zero used technological know how gleaned from several competing countries' aircraft to complete the Mitsubishi wonder fighter.

    Steve
    "In the end, it all goes to the landfill".......
  • I believe that the Zero's engine cowling was a NACA design that provided better cooling than traditional Japanese cowlings. I do not know if Howard Hughes designed that cowling or not but I suppose it's possible.

    John

     

  • Here is a lengthy discussion of the topic at another forum:

    http://www.wrightools.com/h1talk/_disc3/00000021.htm

    This is the first post in the thread. To view the replies, click "next" from the top menu, or select from the entire page here:

    http://www.wrightools.com/h1talk/index.htm#00000021

    This should help shed some light on the subject.


  • I'd read that there were design components of the H-1 that the Japanese used when designing the Zero - it's entirely probable - a good design is a good design - but remember that the Japanese had an enormous number of their citizens studying and working for many years in the United States prior to WWll in every imaginable industry - gaining an incredible amount of skills and knowledge - and they had brilliant engineers - so it's not surprising that so many of their planes were such fantastic performers.
    Cheers, LeeTree Remember, Safety Fast!!!
  • on that note, is the aviator worth watching ?
  • I really liked it Reggie, it is an aviation movie. It does focus on Hughes' dimentia some, but DeCaprio suprised me with his character of the young Hughes. Spend the money and see it, you won't be sorry.
    "In the end, it all goes to the landfill".......
  • There was an article in Wings or Airpower many years ago that suggested that the zero was developed from a Northrop design (P-64?) that mysteriously disappeared on a test flight off the coast of California in the late 30's. I have the magazine but have no immediate plans to locate it at the present time unnless there is a lot of interest from the group on details.

    Richard
  • the Zero was based on the T-6 Texan which is why it was possible to recreate believable Zero's for the movie Tora Tora Tora

    On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

    The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

  • The T-6 Texan (aka "Harvard") seems to be a ready made conversion for any aircraft that Hollywood wants to film. They even used them as P-47s in "Kelly's Heroes".

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  • what ? how the heck dya shoehorn a T-6 into a P-47 ???? i guess most people (me included) probably couldent spot the real McCoy
  • I'm inclined to believe the Zero design had influences from the west but that the design of the aircraft was still of Japanese origin.

     

     

  • Everyone was stealing ideas from everyone else. That is the way of engineering. Like LeeTree above, "A good design is a good design." I think this is seen even today in the way that model kits are designed. (Or anything for that matter.) How much you want to bet that there will be a Hasegawa kit with molded muzzle openings (a la Tamiya's P-47) in the near future?

    Justen

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  • of course you didnt know that the VAL dive bomber was a derivative of the JU-87 Stuka and that the Luftwaffa actually provided the Japanese with ME-162 and ME-262 fighters.

    On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

    The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

  • I heard the Val was from a Hienkel design.