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Revell 1:32 P-38 in aluminum foil (image intensive)

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Revell 1:32 P-38 in aluminum foil (image intensive)
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:21 PM

I haven't actually touched this in a while, but the pictures are new! It still needs some finishing touches: weathering, small parts like the elevator mass balances, superchargers need finishing, props and spinners are loose, etc etc etc.

Using foil works very well, but it takes a bit of patience. The foil needs to be rubbed down with fine steel wool to get rid of the mirror finish and make it look more realistic.

Foil is at its worst near seams and edges. This is not a technique to use on small kits because those effects will be more obvious, and it will be too bright with scale effect. The 1/32 P-38 is a great subject for it, though (albeit lots of edges).  I'd like to try the biggest F-104 I can find (are there any larger than 1:48?)

There are about four distinct shades of aluminum on this model. Most of them are too subtle to come through the camera very well, but look for the radiator inlets, the wing spar panels, around the superchargers and the wing/empennage leading edges.

Without further ado:

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Posted by brain44 on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:38 PM

Very nice work!  I've been playing with foiling for a while now, with mixed results.  Your P-38 looks outstanding - did you do it one panel at a time or did you do wider areas?  I'm thinking that my next foil job will be panel by panel, for authenticity and better control around compound curves.

Here is a link to my latest effort:

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Thanks for sharing!

Brian  Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:41 PM

Thanks!

I took it panel by panel.  Like you said it gives better control of curves, and it minimizes having a "step" along the edge of a foil piece.  Best part is it gives complete control with multiple colors of foil.  I have the stock color foil, a "dark" boiled foil, then two milder in-between tones.  The dark color I used more or less where the kit's painting guide called for steel paint, then I mixed the subtler tones in an "almost-random" fashion with the light stock color.  That wouldn't have been possible if I used an entire sheet for each wing surface, etc.

Your B-47 looks great!  The realistic look comes from the steel-wool rub-down so don't be worried.  My wife thought I was crazy before I used the wool because it looked shiny and terrible.  This is my first foil build, and if mine has any quality to it at all its because I became better at it as I worked, and as I gained confidence I tore off old panels that I wasn't happy with.  There's still a few things about the P-38 I'm not completely happy with, but at some point you just have to put on the Future and call the foiling done!  I'm still debating putting a flatcoat or a matte on top.

Dan

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Posted by Aggieman on Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:01 PM

Your P-38 looks great!  I just completed a B-47 in 1/144.  You are correct - foil does not work well for the smaller scales.  And much patience is required (but I just demonstrated massive patience in waiting for Texas A&M's first victory against Texas since 1999!)

My next foiling attempt will be from among Monogram 1/72 B-36, Monogram 1/48 B-29, Hasegawa 1/48 F-104, or perhaps one of my Tamiya 1/48 Thunderbolts.

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:11 PM

Another good looking B-47...I didn't realize how popular they are!

I'm starting to wonder whether there may be a 1:24 P-51D in my future.  Wouldn't that be something covered in foil?

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:22 PM
WOW That is a great looking lightning. When done well, nothing beats real metal

Marc  

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:45 PM

 wing_nut wrote:
WOW That is a great looking lightning. When done well, nothing beats real metal

 

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] I have the 1/48 Monogram P-38 and I'm thinking of foiling it. If I do, I hope it comes out 1/2 as good as this oneTongue [:P]

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Posted by Dubau on Thursday, November 30, 2006 6:49 AM

Sweet Job on the Foil !

Bud

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Posted by Brews on Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:38 AM
I have a Hasegawa 1:32 F-104. Try e-bay, kingkit or something like that if you want one.
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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, November 30, 2006 10:59 AM
One of these days I hope to get the courage to do a BMF with foil.  Looks great!  I love silver P-38s! Cool [8D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 30, 2006 11:47 AM

Thanks everybody for showering me in kind words!

Hippy-Ed:  Good luck with the 1/48 kit.  Even at 1/32 this tried my patience at times, so be ready for the nooks and crannies :)  At that scale it might be easiest to forgo individual panels and just do an entire surface at a time.  You could get a quick and easy two-tone finish by doing that and just adding darker foil on the panels you want after doing, say, a whole wing surface.

Brews: Thanks for the tip on the F-104.  I found one online but I may have to put it on hold since I just heard the Polar Lights 1/350 starship Enterprise was discontinued and I need to get one while they last!  I doubt my wife will let me get both.  Honestly it'll be tough to get one :)

Espins: Its not that hard, it just takes a little bit of patience.  It took me about a month to do, but was a lot less tedious than scribing the panel lines, which only took two weeks.  If the foiling was truly tedious I wouldn't have gone back and refoiled areas I wasn't happy with!  If thinking its too difficult is a psychological barrier, look for a nice bomber or big (1/32) fighter to build confidence on.  The bigger the panels the easier (and also, counter-intuitively, quicker) it will go.  A big B-29 is probably going to be a lot quicker than a P-38.

 Dan

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Posted by espins1 on Thursday, November 30, 2006 12:12 PM
I think my first attempt will be on an F-104, but not until sometime next year.  But I will try it.  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:06 PM

Thanks for the encouragement. I'm sure this would be trying one's patienceSigh [sigh] but  I think I can wing itBig Smile [:D]

 

Wha's this about the 1/350 Enterprise being discontinued? Which one? The Refit?? 

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:07 PM
The refit is dead.  RC2 has discontinued the entire Polar Lights "brand" so none of their other kits will be available either, but I think the refit is going to be the most mourned.
jwb
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Posted by jwb on Thursday, November 30, 2006 2:13 PM

That looks awesome! Very shiny. Wink [;)]

I've not been brave enough to try that.

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Posted by leadsled on Friday, December 01, 2006 11:07 AM
Great job on your '38 Thumbs Up [tup]  Did you do that with after market foil or did you use regular house hold foil? I've dabbled in Bare Metal Foil but thought I would try the house hold foil (it's a little cheaper for my mistakesBanged Head [banghead]). Anyway, I have two 1/32 '38s in my stash itching to be next in line. One I plan to do in BMF and the other in the Olive Drab scheme. Thanks for the added boost of inspiration. I think the '38s are going to get their wish.
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Posted by gharlane on Friday, December 01, 2006 12:15 PM

looks great! what kind of adhesive did you use to put the foil on with??

again, fine looking job

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 01, 2006 1:58 PM

Regular supermarket foil with Mona Lisa brand metal leaf adhesive.  To be honest it didn't seem as good as an adhesive as I was hoping so next time around I might experiment with other brands.  On the other hand its the only thing I've tried so for all I know its the best there is!

And I went out and bought that 1/350 refit Enterprise.  My wife is going to kill me.  No really, she is.  Nice to have met all of you.

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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Friday, December 01, 2006 2:48 PM
 dbhyslop wrote:

Regular supermarket foil with Mona Lisa brand metal leaf adhesive.  To be honest it didn't seem as good as an adhesive as I was hoping so next time around I might experiment with other brands.  On the other hand its the only thing I've tried so for all I know its the best there is!

And I went out and bought that 1/350 refit Enterprise.  My wife is going to kill me.  No really, she is.  Nice to have met all of you.

 

Well it was nice knowing yaBig Smile [:D] Now did ya put me in yer will so I can get the Refit?!Tongue [:P]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, December 01, 2006 4:19 PM
No, I might ask to be buried with this one--everything you've heard of the quality of the kit is true, and none of the pictures could prepare me for how BIG it is.  I can't believe it cost less than my VIIC uboat.  As far as sci-fi goes, its a once in a lifetime kit.
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Posted by Hippy-Ed on Friday, December 01, 2006 7:35 PM
Yup, I heard that it's a great kit. I have the NX-01 in 1/350 and I'll tell ya, that thing is a Monster!! I've had it awhile & have yet to start it. I do want the Refit to keep the NX company thoTongue [:P]
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