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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, October 9, 2018 11:24 AM

John,

Your Ducati is awesome. Very professionally done. YesYesYes

There are lot's of different metals, and the gold tones really pop. I sure like the shiny gold oil filter!

For anyone reading this, it is well worth clicking on John's images to see more detail. There is a lot of it, believe me.

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, October 9, 2018 3:34 PM

Thanks Greg - these are a joy to build.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by greentracker98 on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:02 PM

My Apologies for not being in but still having problems getting on my feet since my fall. Reading your posts and seeing your builds is making me itchin to get back on my benchCool

Anyway, I wish I would have been able to get in when you guys were having the tire problems, but, for anyone in the future. on all my car and truck models. I stuff the tires with cotton balls. I read a post somewhere that people were having trouble with the tires going flat and that solved it I don't see why it wouldn't work/help bike tires.

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by greentracker98 on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:12 PM

keavdog

Calling this one done. 

 

 

 

Looks Great  Will mark you as 2nd place finisher

A.K.A. Ken                Making Modeling Great Again

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:02 PM

greentracker98
Anyway, I wish I would have been able to get in when you guys were having the tire problems, but, for anyone in the future. on all my car and truck models. I stuff the tires with cotton balls. I read a post somewhere that people were having trouble with the tires going flat and that solved it I don't see why it wouldn't work/help bike tires.

Cotton is a good idea, thanks.

Hope your back gets better.

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Posted by keavdog on Saturday, October 13, 2018 5:47 PM

Hope you heal up quickly!  Here's an idea for a badge

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, October 14, 2018 1:55 PM

Progress report and a question.

This subasssy is done, less the brake line needs to be attached...

Now then, kit came with this hose to be cut and used in various places, maybe vinyl? It's plenty kinked up...

So, I thought I'd share my fancy de-kinking jig. It is probably hard to see, just a clamp on one end for holding, the other end for weight, and a hair dryer. Is working pretty ok.

So finally, my question: The hose/tubing should probably be black. It is provided in grey, as you can see. This has probably been covered already, but any comments how to paint vinyl hose? A Magic Marker, maybe?

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, October 14, 2018 2:40 PM

I've got no easy answer, bud.

But, a magic marker or sharpie is going to be getting all over your fingertips whenever you are working with the tubing. Just about everything you spray over it, and CA, are going to make it run.

Might consider replacing it.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, October 14, 2018 3:23 PM

GMorrison
I've got no easy answer, bud.

Oh no!!!! Big Smile

GMorrison
But, a magic marker or sharpie is going to be getting all over your fingertips whenever you are working with the tubing. Just about everything you spray over it, and CA, are going to make it run.

Good point, we'll skip that idea then....

GMorrison
Might consider replacing it.

That is a workable idea I never would have thought of. Thanks, Bill!

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Posted by keavdog on Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:04 PM

Looking good Greg!  Maybe you can use wire insulation to replace.  Not sure of the diameter for 1/8. 

Also, try painting a small section and see how that goes.  I really like gunze 77 tire black 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Greg on Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:19 PM

keavdog

Looking good Greg!  Maybe you can use wire insulation to replace.  Not sure of the diameter for 1/8. 

Also, try painting a small section and see how that goes.  I really like gunze 77 tire black 

 

Wire insulation is a spendid idea! So is trying a bit of paint, see if it's bendy or not.

Much appreciated, John. Yes

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Posted by Greg on Monday, October 15, 2018 3:49 PM

keavdog
Maybe you can use wire insulation to replace. Not sure of the diameter for 1/8. Also, try painting a small section and see how that goes. I really like gunze 77 tire black

Guess what? Both ideas work.

20 gauge solid wire (with the solid wire pulled out of course) is about a perfect size. It is not quite as flexible as the kit-supplied tubing.

And I tried handbrushing a coat of black Stynylrez primer on the kit tubing. It dries to a nice-looking flat black, and to my surprise, it seems to tolerate flexing.

So I can go either direction, problem solved. Thanks again, John!

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 15, 2018 3:56 PM

What's annoying about using tubing is that the little pins that one is supposed to push the stuff onto are tapered by necessity. So after a while, the tubing, being elastic, forces itself back off. And it's really hard to find a glue that will attach neoprene or whatever to styrene.

My Italeri Norton has a 12" long piece of tubing. My Tamiya Honda has a whole sprue cast in soft vinyl with all of the hoses pre-shaped. Like real life.

Heat may help you bend the wire insulation.

Love me some Tammie..

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Greg on Monday, October 15, 2018 5:57 PM

GMorrison
What's annoying about using tubing is that the little pins that one is supposed to push the stuff onto are tapered by necessity. So after a while, the tubing, being elastic, forces itself back off. And it's really hard to find a glue that will attach neoprene or whatever to styrene. My Italeri Norton has a 12" long piece of tubing. My Tamiya Honda has a whole sprue cast in soft vinyl with all of the hoses pre-shaped. Like real life. Heat may help you bend the wire insulation. Love me some Tammie..

D'oh! Guess what next?

I broke off that little plastic "pin" (the first of many) you speak of. I don't know what in the world I was thinking, it's a tiny nub of plastic....as I'm twisting and pushing.

So i'm off to find some .030" approx K&S brass rod to hopefully repair.

If I would have read your post first, Bill, I wonder if I'd still have broken it?

I was trying to use some "Gator's Grip" acrylic glue to attach, I wonder how that will work.

Heat. Why didn't I think of heat?

Oh, and the Stynylrez black paint job (on the tubing) isn't too durable. But easy to touch up after installation, I'd think.

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Posted by Greg on Monday, October 15, 2018 8:03 PM

Crisis averted.

The little brass thing below is a piece of copper from the aforementioned 20 gauge wire. Amazing. It is where the little plastic protrusion Bill was talking about was before it broke off. FWIW, it is .031" dia.

The next pic just shows the hose attached to it.

It has since occurred to me this will all be hidden by the chain cover, so the hose could have been attached to nothing and nobody would have ever known. Zip it!

I sure appreciate all the help here. These hose troubles would have set me back probably forever back in the build all alone days.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 15, 2018 9:20 PM

Back at'cha friend. AFTER I posted the bit about breaking off pins, I thought hey what if someone smart presupposed the problem, clipped off the little plastic pins and drilled and installed little wires.

That's what I'm going to do on the Commando.

Motorcycle models are pretty fun. Having worked on the real bikes a bit, and having modeled a few back in the day; the new kits are pretty awesome.

I'm about halfway through building the Norton, and the Honda just arrived. The Norton has it's challenges, but it's a nice looking bike and at 1/9th the details are easy to deal with.

Just looking into the box of the 1/12th Tamiya Honda is wild. PE. 50 parts for the engine alone. Lots of little screws.

There's a couple of detail up kits that I will not buy, but wow this model is awesome. I need a little 6" Mike Hawthorn fig.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 2:50 AM

Looks good Greg!  GM - you're going to love building that Tamiya bike.  

Thanks,

John

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:24 AM

GMorrison
Back at'cha friend. AFTER I posted the bit about breaking off pins, I thought hey what if someone smart presupposed the problem, clipped off the little plastic pins and drilled and installed little wires. That's what I'm going to do on the Commando.

You know, I hadn't thought that far ahead. But you're right, it is likely all those little plastic pins are likely to break. I think you are on to something just planning to redo them all with the retrofit.

GMorrison
Just looking into the box of the 1/12th Tamiya Honda is wild. PE. 50 parts for the engine alone. Lots of little screws.

Sounds great, Bill. I'm pretty sure I've never seen a Tamiya motorcycle kit in person, let alone built one. I'm champing at the bit.

I agree so far about motorcycle kits, I'm having fun with my old Revell even though it sure has it's frustrations. It's fun wathcing it come together, kind of like building a real bike from the frame up in a way.

I appreciate having you following along with my Revell adventures, Bill.

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:25 AM

keavdog
Looks good Greg!

Thank you, John.

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Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:16 PM

Greg

Crisis averted.

The little brass thing below is a piece of copper from the aforementioned 20 gauge wire. Amazing. It is where the little plastic protrusion Bill was talking about was before it broke off. FWIW, it is .031" dia.

The next pic just shows the hose attached to it.

It has since occurred to me this will all be hidden by the chain cover, so the hose could have been attached to nothing and nobody would have ever known. Zip it!

I sure appreciate all the help here. These hose troubles would have set me back probably forever back in the build all alone days.

 

 

Thats a fine job of adding that pin.

 

I am looking at that chain and thinking, man, that would be cool if there was an aftermarket PE kit that had the links to put together.  Then I thought, yup, thats why I don't build motorcycles or armor in order to avoid projects like that.Big Smile

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 4:49 PM

Thanks, Scott.

Yes, I think building a chain bit by bit might be the last link in whatever sanity I have left. Surprise

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:43 PM

And to answer your next question...Oh Hell No!

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Posted by Greg on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:22 PM

GMorrison

And to answer your next question...Oh Hell No!

 

Small pic, small laptop screen, bad eyes.......

What is it? Looks like a PE set, I think I see that.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 6:51 PM

Yes, it's a PE chain. There's also a detail up set with wheels that have individual spokes.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 11:28 AM

Ahah! Just what we were talking about, right over the edge I would go.

I had high dollar car kit as a kit** which had individual spokes. I don't think I ever finished the spokes, let alone the car. What a waste(ful little fella).

Edit: ** I meant as a kid. Geez

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 4:03 PM

I had enough trouble adjusting the spokes and chain on my 1:1 bike.  

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Posted by Greg on Wednesday, October 17, 2018 5:40 PM

scottrc

I had enough trouble adjusting the spokes and chain on my 1:1 bike. 

Good observation. Yes

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Posted by Ghost8100 on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:38 PM

 

 

 

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Posted by Ghost8100 on Thursday, October 18, 2018 12:39 PM

My version of Tom Daniel's Grim Reaper in 1/9 scale for my second bike for the build off

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Posted by keavdog on Thursday, October 18, 2018 1:44 PM

That's cool ghost.  Big fan of tom daniels stuff. 

Thanks,

John

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