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The group build to end all group builds - THE GREAT WAR

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Posted by wing_nut on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 1:01 PM

Mike, looks like a bit of tit for tat.  You point about the eyelets is well taken as well.  Since the difference between the D.V and the D.Va is likely minimal, I will check those ref pics as well.  I don't want to start making something like 45 eyelets if they are gpoing to be wrong.

Marc  

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Posted by ruddratt on Wednesday, March 23, 2011 7:00 PM

Marc, actually I was speaking in reference to the SE.5. The eyelets you want to use for the Alby's should be fine. Sorry for the confusion buddy.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:34 AM

Nah, nothing to be sorry for.  It was all me.  Yesterday I didn't know my a$$ from my elbow.  It started when I sat in my truck and was about to turn the key and the phone rang canceling my morning job.    Just threw me off for the day.Tongue Tied  I knew you are doing the SE.5 now.Whistling  Imagine if I didn't have modeling to keep me calmIndifferent

Marc  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Friday, March 25, 2011 11:26 AM

Okay, here we go. Proof that I am actually working on the Pup:

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, March 25, 2011 3:54 PM

All right doogs.... painted parts...WOOHOO!  Nice.

 

I would also like to welcome u-69 to the build.  He... of course I am assuming he's a he, I know, sexist of me, right?...is planning on a Friedrichshafen FF-33 in 1/48 by Techmod.

Bienvenue, Willkommen, Benvenuti, ようこそ, Vítej, 歡迎, Tervetuloa, Добро пожаловать

Marc  

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Posted by wing_nut on Friday, March 25, 2011 4:01 PM

And FYI... Sean brings us to 27 participants and 36 models

Marc  

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Posted by ruddratt on Friday, March 25, 2011 7:43 PM

Right on. I knew this GB would just continue to grow! Yes

 

Fine work Doogs. Nice to see some progress pics here. So, how you liking the kit so far?

 

Began work on the engine yesterday, and got some paint on 'er too. Added a bunch of stuff to what is already a very nice little powerplant OOB. Should have some pics up sometime this weekend.

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by Bockscar on Friday, March 25, 2011 10:38 PM

Wing_nut: An associate just came back from a tour of WW I sites, and I sent the Vimy pins over with him. He got the medallions over there.

The Canada pins were on the uniform sleeves of my wife's grandad's. He was a sapper, and was familiar with the motivating power of Amatol. The button came from his overcoat, he was gassed and luckily survived.

The spent cartridges allegedly came from his firing at the enemy.  He eventually came back to Canada to convalesce, and never fully recovered from the gas.

Yeah, ammonia is bad, and sulphur is bad, but it takes the Lord of Hades to combine them into a breathable gas.

The war to enhance all wars. 

My mother-in-law was overcome to see the medallions, she often spoke of her dad's troubles with his lungs.

We do what we do because they did what they did.

I wonder who the guy was on the other end of those precious cartridges. God bless them all.

 

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Saturday, March 26, 2011 5:21 AM

Nice start, Doogs!

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, March 26, 2011 6:24 AM

Great mementos Bockscar.  I just watched a few episodes of an old series, narrated by Walter Cronkite, that I had never heard of call "War and Civilization".  It was sort of a chronology of war going way way back.  Wat I got out of it is that it simply never end.  It's in us to do it.  Someone will be fighting someone else somewhere all the time,  You mention the gas of WWI and when they talked about it in the show it reminded me of when I was a kid in high school about 1970 and was in the hospital for my appendix.  I was in a 4 bed ward with 1 old guy who was smoking Churchills... remember when someone could smoke literally anywhere... and he was there because of the his lungs form being gassed in the trenches.   I was just a dopey kid that couldn't care less.  What a waste.  Sure would love to talk to him now.

Marc  

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Posted by DoogsATX on Saturday, March 26, 2011 1:08 PM

ruddratt

Fine work Doogs. Nice to see some progress pics here. So, how you liking the kit so far?

Can't make too many judgements thus far. The detail is pretty great, though, and my only criticism is that the fuselage halves have sprue tab connections on the connection seam. Only other kit I've encountered this on are Hobby Boss' F4F Wildcats, and I find it frustrating because reducing those tabs almost always messes with the straight seam line. But that's a minor thing.

Also did the wood graining last night. Very happy with the results, especially for my first try at it. Have to let it cure a few days before I do the clear yellow/orange thing to it, though.

On the Bench: 1/32 Trumpeter P-47 | 1/32 Hasegawa Bf 109G | 1/144 Eduard MiG-21MF x2

On Deck:  1/350 HMS Dreadnought

Blog/Completed Builds: doogsmodels.com

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Saturday, March 26, 2011 3:09 PM

The wood looks great.  You should be happy, that great for any try, not just a first.

Marc  

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Posted by ruddratt on Saturday, March 26, 2011 7:20 PM

Doogs, I hear ya about those tabs........and it's not just the fuselage halves - a few other parts have 'em too. As you said though, they're not too big a deal. I use a 1/2" wide flat metal file with a really fine grit - cleans 'em up nice without buggering up the seams too much.

...and ditto what Marc said about your first attempt at the wood grain. Very nice! Yes

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, March 27, 2011 2:11 AM

is it too late for the baron to enter his own plane?

albatros DVa (red)

 

 

 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:04 AM

Nope, not too late.  What kit and scale?

Marc  

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Posted by the real red baron on Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:21 PM

Airfix 1:72 albatross DV

 

 

 

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, March 27, 2011 4:45 PM

Before getting into particulars of this update, I found some interesting stats about Austria-Hungary.  Something like 90 percent of all those who went into combat for the Habsburg empire were killed, wounded, captured, or went missing:

1,200,000 killed or missing
2,200,000 prisoners
3,620,000 wounded
7,020,000 total casualties
7,800,000 total mobilised
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To the model...

At the outbreak of war, the uniform was of a 1908 pattern and it's colour was called hectgrau - "pike-grey".  The shade is described as a light blue-grey.  Searching through my collection of paints azure blue seemed like a close match, or at least a good starting point.  A few drops of red was added as well as grey and finally some cobalt blue.  This would be the base coat.  After this some white was added and sprayed from atop the figure down to about a 45 degree angle to simulate a light source.  A third and final coat, with even more white, was sprayed lightly from directly on top.

Next are the highlights and shadows.  I prefer using a dark pinwash on details, and not using a solid wash on the whole figure as this darkens the base colour and the paint doesn't collect in the folds correctly.  The underside of the folds are picked out individualy with a small brush.  Then with a lighter shade of the base colour the highlights are picked out with a detail brush, again very minimal dry brushing as this too does not correctly bring out the folds.

 A start on equipment details,  the boots are finished while the holster is treated with a very light-handed dry brush.

Using a paint program, here is the name plate designed for the figure's base.  The word k.u.k. is derived from kaiserliches und konigliches gemeinsames Heer (Imperial and Royal Common Army).  The 17th regiment had it's composition made from about 86% Slovenians, the recruitment center being Laibach - present day Ljubljana, Slovenia.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by wing_nut on Sunday, March 27, 2011 6:07 PM

The figure looks great.

Interesting stats Jack.  To quote Joshua in "War Games"... "A strange game. The only winning move is not to play."

And yet the game is played over and over againSad

Red, I will update the list.

Marc  

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Posted by Bockscar on Sunday, March 27, 2011 7:46 PM

wing_nut

Great mementos Bockscar.  I just watched a few episodes of an old series, narrated by Walter Cronkite, that I had never heard of call "War and Civilization".  It was sort of a chronology of war going way way back.  Wat I got out of it is that it simply never end.  It's in us to do it.  Someone will be fighting someone else somewhere all the time,  You mention the gas of WWI and when they talked about it in the show it reminded me of when I was a kid in high school about 1970 and was in the hospital for my appendix.  I was in a 4 bed ward with 1 old guy who was smoking Churchills... remember when someone could smoke literally anywhere... and he was there because of the his lungs form being gassed in the trenches.   I was just a dopey kid that couldn't care less.  What a waste.  Sure would love to talk to him now.

Wing_nut you summed that up nicely. I wish I could go back and talk with some of guys who lived as youth during that conflict. What would he/they tell you? -He suffered, but he would not want to admit that, he cried when his buddies died, but he would not want to discuss that, he despaired the days he didn't think he would live, and he was ashamed of his weakness, and that he lived.

I met a guy whom served whom I found out after a few years of knowing him, was utterly ashamed that his pals died, and that he, for no special reason but for an inch this way or that, lived (Mosquito pilot).

That's about as sobering a reality as I can imagine. I'm not trying to be too gushy, but the level of suffering was only matched by the level of their ability to not talk about it. 

It makes our task all the more vital, that we in a small way keep the memory alive through our work.

The great thing about this hobby is that it is, by its nature, so reflective of deeds past, and sacrifice paid forward.

I think I had and O.D. of MEK last night, sorry for the rant....

 

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Posted by castelnuovo on Monday, March 28, 2011 2:02 AM

Gentlemen,

Here is my most humble Camel. It is my first airplane in more then 25 years. While not my most glorious model I am happy with it. As good as it gets with my slightly trembling hands. And my wife's grandfather was flying them so there is a bit of a connection too.

Cheers...

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Posted by the real red baron on Monday, March 28, 2011 3:01 AM

nice camle strange naem that ownt you agree?

im doing its most worthy oppenent the albatross DVa with the red baron as pilot

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, March 28, 2011 4:25 AM

Nice looking Camel castlenuovo!Big Smile

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 28, 2011 6:06 AM

CN... looks nice.  The basics are all well taken care of and the rigging is nicely done. The "25 years and trembling hands" didn't do you wrongYes

Marc  

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Posted by TD4438 on Monday, March 28, 2011 6:15 AM

Nice job.I'd be happy to hang that in my hobby room.

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Posted by Nachtflieger on Monday, March 28, 2011 4:00 PM

Hey Marc:

I'd like to change my entry in the build from the Wingnut Wings LVG to the Wingnut Wings Roland D. VIa if I can.

Nate

 

 

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Monday, March 28, 2011 4:04 PM

im 99% done only

detailing and weathering to go

 

 

 

 

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Posted by wing_nut on Monday, March 28, 2011 6:15 PM

Nate-done

TRRB- pics man, we need picsBig Smile

Marc  

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Posted by u-69 on Monday, March 28, 2011 6:50 PM

@nate

The Roland has a few gotchas - if you like take a peek at my Roland here: http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/models/50805-roland-dvia-kissenberth.html  so you can avoid them... 

 

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Posted by ruddratt on Monday, March 28, 2011 7:19 PM

Gentlemen, I really like what I'm seeing so far!

 

castelnuovo, very nice work on the Camel. Those Eduard kits are sweet, ain't they?

Jack, I really admire you figure guys! That is awesome - couldn't touch that on my best days. Nice job on that banner too - that's a great touch to what is so far an excellent build. Yes

Nate, can't wait to see your expertise applied to the Roland. That one's been on my to-buy list for a while, so I'll be watching your build closely.

Sean, that Roland is just flippin' amazing! You and Nate keep raising the bar with each build you post - some incredible stuff for sure! Yes

 

Had a few small kitchen reno projects to attend to this weekend, so not as much progress was made on the SE.5 as I had hoped for. The engine is still under construction, but I'm happy with the results so far. Pics will be later this week (hopefully).

Mike

 "We have our own ammunition. It's filled with paint. When we fire it, it makes pretty pictures....scares the hell outta people."

 

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Posted by the real red baron on Monday, March 28, 2011 11:38 PM

i still have detailing to go

and i'll try to get them up callsignOWL might have to put them up for she's a good friend of mine just keep a lookout for a blood red albatross

 

 

 

 

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