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Steel Cats (Sept. 2012-Aug. 2013)

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 1:41 PM

RBaer

I'm done with the IDF GB and have a Tamiya KT "Ardennes" and a set of Friuls, just waiting to go.....

I just need to do enough research to find a good photo of a subject to model, and make sure the Friuls I have are appropriate for the KT I have.

Which Fruils do you have.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:01 PM

Satch and RBaer, look forward to your builds.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:01 PM

Ok , Eric , just German . Toast

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 2:04 PM

Sorry friend. I think we'll all get the idea. Wink

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 3:45 PM

Lol , you know i dont mind doing it Eric .Yes

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 4:10 PM

As defined by wikipedia,  the posed question of Wehrmacht would receive a yes and no answer, as it referred to all branches of armed services (including air force and navy), with the SS in theory being the fourth branch.  At times though it seems to have been considered an entity of it's own, working alongside the other branches.

Heer defintiely refers to the regular army, while waffen-SS would be it's equivalent.

Short of graphically representing a tank (as they both used the same armour), probably the most universal symbol associated with either, would be the balkenkruz that was used as a vehicle recognition marking.  This has already been placed on the hind quarters of the cat.  Historically, the swastika armband is more associated with the nazi party symbol (think more SA troops, Gestapo and Himmler with his black clad soldiers, police units. etc.). It certainly does convey the era of this GB theme.

The only other commonality I can think of are awards, particularly the Knight's and Iron Crosses, along with the colourful ribbons.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 4:12 PM

As defined by wikipedia,  the posed question of Wehrmacht would receive a yes and no answer, as it referred to all branches of armed services (including air force and navy), with the SS in theory being the fourth branch.  At times though it seems to have been considered an entity of it's own, working alongside the other branches.

Heer defintiely refers to the regular army, while waffen-SS would be it's equivalent.

Short of graphically representing a tank (as they both used the same armour), probably the most universal symbol associated with either, would be the balkenkruz that was used as a vehicle recognition marking.  This has already been placed on the hind quarters of the cat.  Historically, the swastika armband is more associated with the nazi party symbol (think more SA troops, Gestapo and Himmler with his black clad soldiers, police units. etc.). It certainly does convey the era of this GB theme.

The only other commonality I can think of are awards, particularly the Knight's and Iron Crosses, along with the colourful ribbons.

regards,

Jack

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Posted by dupes on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 4:19 PM

What does it say about me that I already knew who Bianca Beauchamp was? Hmmmm...Surprise

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 4:52 PM

Well , for know we'll see if this works .Toast

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 5:19 PM

dupes

What does it say about me that I already knew who Bianca Beauchamp was? Hmmmm...Surprise

It either means you were a student at the french high school she taught at before switching careers, or sprues in an open kit box is not the only type of plastic you like to stare at. rofl!

 

 

Carl - badge is looking good, all pertinent info seems to be there, but how's it look once shrunk down?

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by deafpanzer on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 5:22 PM

Carl, you are always helpful in creating GB badges like you did for mine! Beer  It looks GREAT! Yes

My only feedback... remove some words on the last line... either 'G.B.' or the day, we only need to know the month and year.  That way it will make it look less crowded.  And keep in mind when we shrink it we will not be able to read all of the words at that size.  

Can't wait!  Promised myself not to sign up for another GB until September. LOL

 

Andy

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:17 PM

Andy made some good points. I'd remove the GB and dates and just say Sept 2012-March 2013 or perhaps Feb 2013 which is more accurate.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:23 PM

I had a suggestion from P38 to add a totenkopf . Also the resized is about what is commonly used for badges in the sig line . Let me know what you guys think .

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 6:32 PM

Eric , i just read the feedback from everyone ...............i change it in a while Toast

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 7:00 PM

The Totenkopf is ok. Not sure I like it on the tail end though.

Maybe you could add Das Reich and maybe 12th SS Panzer Hitler Youth or are we over doing it?

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 7:17 PM

I tried the totenkopf on other locations and didnt car for it . Maybe just leave it off . There's probably enough already . Das Reich and hitler youth ? LOL .........pretty soon this is going to look like some kind of propaganda .Toast

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 7:19 PM

Oh .................

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 7:27 PM

Yes. I might just drop the Totenkopf off. I think Germany applies to both Heer and SS.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 8:50 PM

Ok , i'll take the totenkopf off .

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Posted by carsanab on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 9:41 PM

Shellback

Ok , i'll take the totenkopf off .

...put it around his neck on a thick chain...............

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Posted by tigerman on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:11 PM

carsanab

 

 Shellback:

 

Ok , i'll take the totenkopf off .

 

 

...put it around his neck on a thick chain...............

Lol.

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 Eric 

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Posted by Shellback on Wednesday, June 6, 2012 11:53 PM

More on the badge tomorrow guys .Yes

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 7, 2012 4:40 AM

I think the Death head would be appropiate as it was worn by all German tank crews. But it wouldn't be essential to get the message across.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 7, 2012 9:35 AM

Hey guys, Eric it's your GB and Carl it's your badge and I don't mean to step on any toes but personally I like the original simple badge better. And Jack's Catwoman badge is pretty cool if you should decide to go with two badges to give a little more choice.

As I said you guys are driving and I'm just along for the ride so I'm happy with whatever ya'll come up with, just my two cents for what it's worth.

SMJmodeler

 Shellback:

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Nice! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:06 PM

Gamera , i tend to agree with you . Its starting to get too many add ons .I came up with another design this morning . Maybe just add the dates on this new idea . Eric can lay out the rules as to what qualifies. Also i agree about seeing more of Jacks ideas for the badge . The more choices the better i say .............imo . Final say is up to Eric of couse .Toast

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:16 PM

Shellback

Gamera , i tend to agree with you . Its starting to get too many add ons .I came up with another design this morning . Maybe just add the dates on this new idea . Eric can lay out the rules as to what qualifies. Also i agree about seeing more of Jacks ideas for the badge . The more choices the better i say .............imo . Final say is up to Eric of couse .Toast

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O, now i do like this. And it has a ring of the old Big cats GB badge with the cat coming towards you.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by JohanT on Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:19 PM

Hi Eric,
I would like to join this group build, I have a Panther A waiting to show of its claws.
Dragon 6358 
Dragon 6428
Friulmodel tracks

Very Best Regards
Johan

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Posted by tigerman on Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:35 PM

I like the original badge too. It's clean. Maybe just add German over the top of it, so there is no confusion as to other Cat named armor.

I'd probably go September 2012-February 2013.

Jack definitely had a creative badge. I see no reason why we couldn't have a choice. I wouldn't create more then two badges though. What say everyone?

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 Eric 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:45 PM

Ye, haveing a choice of badges seems to be the fashion. But no more than 2.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Shellback on Thursday, June 7, 2012 12:59 PM

Bish

 

 Shellback:

 

Gamera , i tend to agree with you . Its starting to get too many add ons .I came up with another design this morning . Maybe just add the dates on this new idea . Eric can lay out the rules as to what qualifies. Also i agree about seeing more of Jacks ideas for the badge . The more choices the better i say .............imo . Final say is up to Eric of couse .Toast

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O, now i do like this. And it has a ring of the old Big cats GB badge with the cat coming towards you.

I had the "Big Cats" badge in mind also when i made this new one . I like the "mean look " in this one .That one has a Tiger and Panther tank in the background and that seemed to define the g.b. limits . I dont want to copy that one per say . I could just add "Tigers and Panthers" , then the "German " wouldnt be needed .

 

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