Pearl Harbor '13 build thank you

Sounds great, man!

I don't know that much of the attack on Pearls Harbor though...

I have Tamiya's big A6M2b Zero here in my stash. Maybe I'll give it a try...

Clemens

I like this--especially so since I built the USS New Orleans (Trumpeter 1/700) for the more recent Pearl Harbor GB; and the cat knocked it off the mantle in less than two months, leaving nothing but pieces.  If I can find her still for sale somewhere, I'd like to build another kit of the NO boat.

the participants.

fightnjoe  -- academy honey stuart  -----  finished

checkmateking02 -- uss new Orleans (trump)  finished

schattenspartan -- a6m2b zero (Tamiya)

greentracker98 -- b-17  tentative

taxtp -- wildcat

lewbud -- p-40/zero

taps88 -- p-40b/c

peteg -- p-26

ww2psycho -- 1/48 val

updates will follow as needed to this list.

joe

that was quick.  

after a bit of discussion to see if this one fly's or dies i will gather a list of who and what and go from there.

joe

SchattenSpartan

Sounds great, man!

I don't know that much of the attack on Pearls Harbor though...

I have Tamiya's big A6M2b Zero here in my stash. Maybe I'll give it a try...

Clemens

good subject.  although the coloring has been debated for years.  should be a good build for you.

joe

checkmateking02

I like this--especially so since I built the USS New Orleans (Trumpeter 1/700) for the more recent Pearl Harbor GB; and the cat knocked it off the mantle in less than two months, leaving nothing but pieces.  If I can find her still for sale somewhere, I'd like to build another kit of the NO boat.

i followed along with that group build, i remember your build.  shame it was sunk later in battle.  would be cool to see it built up again.

joe

Thanks, Joe.  The cat did what the Japanese couldn't do.  

This time, thought I'd mess with some PE.

my hat is off to you.  messing with pe in that scale is not much fun.  and that is coming from a guy who has to use an optivisor for most of the stuff he works on.

joe

Okay, I must be totally off my rocker.  I will commit tentatively. This means I reserve the right to resign from the GB. I also will not collect a badge until I finish the build.

My entry is a 1:48 scale B-17. In the movie Tora, Tora, Tora one pilot in the group of B-17s they were bringing to Hawaii from California says "What a way to fly into a war. Unarmed and out of gas"  The flight of 12 planes arrived over Hickam Field 30 minutes after Japanese began their attack. All of the B-17s were defenseless. The planes carried no machine guns or ammunition in order to carry more fuel and less weight on the long flight from California.

Here's a little bit of my family historical trivia. One of th B-17s that arrived over Hickam during the
Japanese attack was accepted by the US Army on November 29, 1941 with the serial number 41-2429. My Uncle Sgt Robert V. Copley was on a B-17 which was accepted by the US Army December 1, 1941 with serial number 41-2435. Both aircraft took off from 7 mile airdrome for bombing missions at or near Rabaul. Both planes were shot down, but not on the same day. My Uncle like many of these crews never came home.

this is the reason i began doing my personal build and then the public group builds on this subject.

ken tbh that is a great reason to build it.

joe

Thanks Joe

Joe - What is the official name of the group build? I couldn't remember where it was last night and it took me 45 minutes to find it again. You need to create its own official thread

Yes, please make a new thread for this and maybe put the link in here.

I am now sure on that zero: I'll just build it!

Clemens

it will officially be Pearl Harbor '13.  I want to run it for a while like this to gather more interest.

joe

SchattenSpartan

Sounds great, man!

I don't know that much of the attack on Pearls Harbor though...

i had missed this, the whole point of a build of this nature is to share info about the history and the equipment involved.  i am in no way an expert on the attack but i will be more than willing to share the information i have.

i have also edited the title of the thread to more reflect the subject matter.

joe

I'm interested Joe. It would be a 1/72 Wildcat using the Starfighter decals sheet that I used for the P-40 I did for the last Pearl Harbour GB.

Cheers

Tony

tony that should be a good one.  the f4f-3 early was present as both navy and marine.  

now an apology.  started this thread and then I was mia.  been sick.  finally back up and going but for a week I would check in but zero posting anywhere.  

joe

taxtp

I'm interested Joe. It would be a 1/72 Wildcat using the Starfighter decals sheet that I used for the P-40 I did for the last Pearl Harbour GB.

Cheers

Tony

just sitting here thinking about what my project should be.  i have a few, understatement, that would fit.  but a couple are high on the possibilities.  i have a magazine that a buddy sent to me showing two honey stuarts in front of a palace in honolulu on dec 8 1941.  thinking that would be cool.  tried it once before then found i had the wrong variant for what was in the picture.  

another i have in mind is, in my 32 years of trying to build i have never done a kingfisher.  i have two i got last year.  they look interesting to me.  

of course i also have a b-17c/d and b-18 in 1/72.  plus multiple p-40's.  i have some pictures and drawings of the disappearing gun, and some other stuff that might work.  that 1/350 arizona will however stay snug and secure on the shelf.  not picking it up for this one.

of course i could also just be bumping this thread to the top so it wont be lost in the pages.

joe

just to get the juices flowing........

1941

January: Adm. Yamamoto begins communicating with other Japanese officers about a possible attack on Pearl Harbor.

Jan. 27: Joseph C. Grew, the U.S. ambassador to Japan, wires Washington that he has learned that Japan is planning a surprise attack on Pearl Harbor. No one in Washington believes the information. Most senior American military experts believe the Japanese would attack Manila in the Philippine Islands if war broke out.

February: Adm. Husband E. Kimmel assumes command of the U.S. Pacific Fleet in Hawaii. Kimmel and Lt. Gen.Walter C. Short, commanding general of the Hawaiian Department, prepare for the defense of the islands. They ask their seniors in Washington for additional men and equipment to insure a proper defense of military instillations.

April: U.S. intelligence officers continue to monitor Japanese secret messages. In a program code-named Magic, U.S. intelligence uses a machine to decode Japan's diplomatic dispatches. Washington does not communicate all the available information to all commands, including Short and Kimmel in Hawaii.

May: Japanese Adm. Nomura informs his superiors that he has learned Americans were reading his message traffic. No one in Tokyo believes the code could have been broken. The code is not changed.

copied from "A Pearl Harbor Timeline".

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4206060

joe

Interesting information, Joe.  Didn't know that Amb. Grew had prior information.  It's ironic that Washington didn't believe him, and Tokyo didn't believe Nomura.  I suppose there's a poli sci lesson in there somewhere.

I've only read Walter Lord's Day of Infamy.  Have you read At Dawn We Slept?  If so, is it good?  I've heard mixed things about it, but it is said to be "definitive."

I ordered the last USS New Orleans that FreeTime Hobbies had in stock, along with a PE from WEM.  It is somewhat. . .daunting.

But I look forward to the GB.

i have read that multiple reports surfaced of a possible japanese attack through early and mid 1941.  amb grew it is said had heard it from a diplomat from peru who had heard a japanese envoy speaking of it.  here we are 70+ years later and hindsight is 20/20 for stuff like this.

"day of infamy" is a very good and informative book.  as with all written accounts there are things that are disputed but overall a very good account.  not a light read but i have read through it twice.  

joe

just bumping this to the top again.

joe

Hi CMK,

The Hasegawa -3 definitely has -4 wings. I'll probably buy an Admiral one for this GB, and give that a run. I haven't tried one of their kits before. I could convert the wings on their -4, or I may have some resin -3 wings somewhere in the stash, but why do it the hard way ?

Cheers

Tony

Hi, Tony:

I've also got the Admiral -3, but haven't looked at it outside the bag yet.  It looks like a good kit.  

Thanks CMK, I'll take your word for it and get one.

here is the plan.  this thread will be a general get info and gather interest thread until july 1 then I will pull together who and what as far as entries.  so far it appears six are interested.  

will be a fun build with good variety.

joe

I'd be interested as well, even though I haven't finished my build from the first two.  I'd probably do the new Airfix Dogfight Duo, a P-40 v. Zero in 1/72.

I've just found my Hasegawa F4F-3. I might as well go ahead and build it and convert the wings. I've got plenty of resin cockpits for that kit.

Cheers

Tony