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Posted by Theuns on Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:08 AM

Thanx Rob.

I recall an intercepted radio message between the Cuban pilots and their ground controll stating that they (the pilots) could easily visually pick up the SAAF Mirage F-1's over Angola that were painted in the same color scheeme. The SAAF then changed the buff to dark earth :-)

The interesting thing about this scheeme is that the camo pattern was repeated on the wings under the slats.

We also used the "sugar scoops"  on the underside of the rear fuse where the normal NACA ducts were as the engines here in Africa needed the extra cooling in our "hot and high" conditions

Theuns

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, June 12, 2014 3:15 PM

hey theun

nicely done.

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:48 PM

here are all the parts for the frame and inner guts. there is where you have to decide on launch or travel mode. i am doing it in launch mode but will not glue the hydraulic arm to the erector so i can fold the missile down for transport. i could make a functional arm BUT this thing sits on outriggers with the tires off the ground  in  launch mode and they cannot be made adjustable. perhaps in a 1/35 kit which would have a 2' long missile canister.

i would dump 4 tank kits to but one of these in 1/35. but WTH i have a 1/72 DORA RR gun so....

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Posted by Rob S. on Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:50 PM

Wayne, so, how is the Zvezda quality and plastic? I've only done one Zvezda kit and it was quite a long time ago.

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Posted by Rob S. on Thursday, June 12, 2014 7:55 PM

A bit more progress tonight:

Got the top of the fuselage mounted and the best part was the upper wing supports are sturdy and they were mounted under the top of the fuselage cap, so, super strong and not relying on weak joints like other, older biplane kits.

Very basic cockpit, but, the actual instrument panel decals stand out quite well:

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, June 12, 2014 9:29 PM

hey rob

quality is good so far. almost no flash and sprue attachments are thin. some sink wells i filled some in because i'm anal but none would have been seen given the closeness of the parts, the frame being painted black and having it on a base so it can't be picked up. plastic is nice a tad soft as in trimming close with sprue cutters and starting with 320 sandpaper instead of 220

the missile went together fine, seam work on the 2 halves which is to be expected with something that big, like a locomotive boiler. getting the frame together was a tad tricky as i had  all 18 support pieces glued on the right side and had to match them all to the left side holes but, with some fiddling it's done.

will post pics when i get all 14 wheel  mounts assembled and attached along with more cross members. all aren't the same it it isn't something to do tired.

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Posted by cml on Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:11 PM

@Theuns - that's a nice clean looking build. Is that a FOD cover i see in the exhaust? Did that come with the kit or did you scratch it up?

Great camo scheme.

Chris

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Posted by cml on Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:15 PM

waynec

i would dump 4 tank kits to but one of these in 1/35. but WTH i have a 1/72 DORA RR gun so....

Now that is a WIP i'd pay to see!!

I think launch mode is a lot more interesting than travel mode too - good choice Waynec.

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, June 12, 2014 10:24 PM

cml

waynec

i would dump 4 tank kits to but one of these in 1/35. but WTH i have a 1/72 DORA RR gun so....

Now that is a WIP i'd pay to see!!

I think launch mode is a lot more interesting than travel mode too - good choice Waynec.

i have already figured out i have a couple of kits, DORA and the 1/200 german wheel bucket loader, that may have to be finished upstairs because i may not be able to get the finished ones out of the bunker.

me too i will build my PLA DF-21 ICBM (1/35) in launch mode and may open up the canister hatches and nose which means i will have to build a CSSS-5 missile.

i build most large towed artillery in travel mode because the footprint is smaller and they are more interesting. 

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, June 13, 2014 8:54 AM

waynec

hey rob

will post pics when i get all 14 wheel  mounts assembled and attached along with more cross members. all aren't the same it it isn't something to do tired.

Thanks Wayne, looking forward to this build

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, June 13, 2014 8:57 AM

Yes the intake and exhaust covers are supplied in the kit.

I built the Airfix 1/72 Gladiator, the build went well but I stuffed up on the rigging so I just put it in the box for another day :-(

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, June 13, 2014 9:47 AM

Theuns, same Gladiator that I`m on?

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, June 13, 2014 11:02 AM

The new Airfix 1/72 Mk1? then yes

The kit , fit and detail is really nice, the interplane struts also have cross braces to help with alignment.

The problem came in when I did the rigging. I attatched it with superclue through small holes, but the sanding to get the glue flush was not successful and after the first aplication of silver (that shows up ALL your sins) I decided to rather concentrate on other models  :-(

Good thing I did not "learn" rigging on my 1/32 WNW SE5!

The bottom line is that it was NOT the kit's fault, just my own  LOL

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Posted by jibber on Friday, June 13, 2014 12:20 PM

Wayne pretty ambitious build, can't wait to see it. Great choice.  

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Posted by Rob S. on Friday, June 13, 2014 12:58 PM

Theuns

The new Airfix 1/72 Mk1? then yes

The kit , fit and detail is really nice, the interplane struts also have cross braces to help with alignment.

The problem came in when I did the rigging. I attatched it with superclue through small holes, but the sanding to get the glue flush was not successful and after the first aplication of silver (that shows up ALL your sins) I decided to rather concentrate on other models  :-(

Good thing I did not "learn" rigging on my 1/32 WNW SE5!

The bottom line is that it was NOT the kit's fault, just my own  LOL

Theuns

Ah, Ok, Yes the plane pretty much fall together like all New Tooling Airfix stuff of late. Do you have a CA glue applicator tool? Makes a huge difference in controlling the amount of CA glue. I won`t get to rigging for a bit, but, I`ll let you know through my WIP how it turns out.

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Posted by Theuns on Saturday, June 14, 2014 1:10 AM

No that was the reason why I stuffed it up :-(

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Posted by waynec on Saturday, June 14, 2014 10:13 PM

jibber

Wayne pretty ambitious build, can't wait to see it. Great choice.  

hey jibber. which one or both? the DF-21 has a complete engine ready for detailing; injection lines, battery and cables basic car stuff, and the cab tilts forward so you can see it. 

latest on suspension for SS-25. theses are the 3 rear axles and the center axle. right side parts are different from left side so it pays to pay attention. they say squeeze the frame together so the crossmember fits in the pins on top of the shock absorbers. the pins aren't really big enough but doesn't seem to be a big problem. another 1.5 hours and the front 3 axles will be done. of course no one will see any of this when done, the bane of warwheel builders of which i am one.

the second photo caught the upper right shorter axle not quite perpendicular. it has been fixed. i think the front 3 axles steer as well as the back 3 axles which my be the reason the center no. 4 axle and wheel mounts are a tad shorter.

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Posted by lewbud on Sunday, June 15, 2014 11:53 AM

Rob and Theuns, nice work gents.  Jealous of you Rob, because the new Hurricane hasn't hit Texas yet, and I really want one.

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Posted by Rob S. on Sunday, June 15, 2014 1:07 PM

lewbud

Rob and Theuns, nice work gents.  Jealous of you Rob, because the new Hurricane hasn't hit Texas yet, and I really want one.

Thanks Lewbud! Funny, I normally complain that product hits US stores before Canada!! Wow, we actually got something first.

Wayne, so true about all that work for something that won't be seen!! Been there for sure.

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, June 15, 2014 1:44 PM

Hey Wayne, pleas put me down for a 1/72 Airfix EE Lightning please.

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, June 15, 2014 5:25 PM

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Posted by Rob S. on Sunday, June 15, 2014 8:40 PM

Wow, quite the ensemble of fidly bits, eh? Great running commentary!

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Posted by cml on Sunday, June 15, 2014 11:10 PM

Some nice progress Waynec.

Whilst it looks fiddly, i'm really pitying you when it comes to painting the tyres...

Bit of update on my own - without any pics.

F4U - primer is down and hoping to get some pre-shading done by mid week.  I've had a bit of trouble getting seam lines to disappear and then retouching with a scribe the beautiful detailing my butter fingers have sanded off.  

A-7 - i've painted the intake and wheel wells - now they all need masking for the primer coat.  I'm procrastinating now, as i don't really know of a super easy way to mask the internal lip of the intake...

Somebody suggested cutting some sponge and inserting - i might try that.  Or i may just try and tape it up.  I'll try the sponge first and see how i go.

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Posted by Lodni Kranazon on Monday, June 16, 2014 12:51 AM

Great work everybody! I haven't got a lot done on the Hun lately but did manage to finally start to get the seats painted today. I was trying to make sure the canopy fit! Indifferent

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Posted by deattilio on Monday, June 16, 2014 8:25 AM

These are some impressive builds and am glad I can report some progress as well.  The pictures are just after pre-shading but I have since applied the underside's neutral grey along with painting and assembling the prop & spinner.  Next will be the OD topside.

 

 

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Posted by waynec on Monday, June 16, 2014 10:29 AM

maybe damp paper towel so you could fit ot a bit to edges. or liquid mask around the edge before adding the sponge or paper.

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Posted by waynec on Monday, June 16, 2014 10:45 AM

CML - cutting the parts from the sprue and cleaning them was fiddly but no more than really small 1/35 parts. 14 tires are rubber so will give them a heavy engine gray wash to start, 1 piece hubs. couldn't be  worse than one of those track thingies, i suspect they will be a tight fit so will tape them off before any painting. may use some petroleum jelly to help slide them on if type as the frame is going to take serious pressure.

ROB - thanks. probably wasn't clear enough for instruction but it makes the builder aware. there is a school of thought to build a 1/72 first before building the 1/35 or 1/32 so as to understand the major components. i will do this with my 3 locomotives,  wait until i start my 1/35 URAL 4320 6x6  if you want detail.

added some more pieces. had to \take 2 brackets off and put them on other side so the bracket would slide over the frame. this one was probably my fault but a good lesson learned. 

this kit has 2 versions and sometimes you are building with the frame bottom showing and sometimes frame top, sometimes looking from front and sometimes from rear. and there are 2 modes with different pieces. so look twice glue once and dry fit a lot. i think in most cases it is the nature of the build, lots of parts for 1/72 and not a familiar subject like a PANTHER which most of us could build without instructions. i am not slamming ZVEZDA on this. just an observation. IMNSHO not a beginner kit.

the 2 highlighted pins are for attaching the bottom of the rear upper body assy.

the instructions 

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Thursday, June 19, 2014 9:57 AM

Hey Wayne! I just stumbled on this Thread here and didn't know it was going on. I envy you that Topol, it is looking good! That is definitely on my list of models to get! I also already completed the Br-86; she took a Second in Miscellaneous at San Diego recently. You'll have fun with that kit. Just be careful; like the Topol, make sure you check for front-back, and right-left, and upside down. A couple times I had to remove parts and re-glue them back in properly.

Let me see what I have in the stash that is screaming to be built. I'd like to join up with this when I do. I'll keep you posted on what I find.

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