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Fourth Annual Berny Memorial Group Build

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 4:36 AM

Steve...very ambitious base, that I'm sure, you will pull off!! Looking forward to that.

Yeah, Mikey, it's got a low part count, so, it's going together quick.

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Posted by jimbot58 on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:16 PM
Rob S.

So, this kit has such a spartan interior, I'm not unhappy that she's gonna bit pinned up tight. Nothing to see but a few rows of seats. This just means that the exterior has to be the main focus. Anyway, for a lower quality kit, I was quite pleased with how well the fuselage went together. Well sealed. The clear canopy went on perfectly too. That I didn't expect..

I 'smoked' the glass inside the top of the canopy cover prior to installing. There's an instrumentation decal on the interior cockpit roof too, but, it'll never be seen again!! Too bad. More tomorrow.

Rob S.

So, this kit has such a spartan interior, I'm not unhappy that she's gonna bit pinned up tight. Nothing to see but a few rows of seats. This just means that the exterior has to be the main focus. Anyway, for a lower quality kit, I was quite pleased with how well the fuselage went together. Well sealed. The clear canopy went on perfectly too. That I didn't expect..

I 'smoked' the glass inside the top of the canopy cover prior to installing. There's an instrumentation decal on the interior cockpit roof too, but, it'll never be seen again!! Too bad. More tomorrow.

It looks fine from this end to me! Just wondering if that yellow plastic is hard to cover with the paint? I would be satisfied if all kits just came in plain ol' grey! jim

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Posted by jimbot58 on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:18 PM

Woops! Think I hit the "quote" button twice...oh well!

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Posted by jimbot58 on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:25 PM
modelcrazy

That looks wicked cool Rob  Yes

OK, here I go with the base, this will be the first time I try this method.

First I made the base out of an old piece of house siding and made poster board walls and used hot glue to attach them to the sides. I also stiffened the walls with some cardboard backing.

Then I placed the ship inside the box and laid in sawdust, and formed some crests and troughs. I then squirted some thin CA onto the sawdust to stabilize it. That worked remarkably well but use an enormous amount of glue. 

Once dried, I applied Mod Podge for a base for the acrylic gel.

I will use the acrylic gel to form the wave peaks and smooth the texture. After the gel will be applied, I'll paint dark blue mixed with turquoise at the foam. After the paint will come the cotton, but I'll show that when I get there.

That's all for now.

Steve

Wow! I wonder if you could have used Model railroad techniques instead of all that CA. I won't go into it as you are already this far.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 1:28 PM

Rob: For a cheap kit she's coming together quite well!

Steve: Wow, never thought about using sawdust and superglue! I've seen people use plaster before- does the sawdust work better?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 2:35 PM

I don't know yet. It is MUCH easier to form into swells and the like, and weighs less, however I used a whole 8 oz refill bottle of thin CA to get the job done. If I use this method again it will be for 1/700 and not 1/350.

I believe I will use foam on my next dio, which should be the Yamato for your GB. That is if I can scrape up enough cash for a PE set for that monster.

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Wednesday, May 20, 2015 7:07 PM

looking forward to this Steve...watching with great interest.

I got a lot done today, but, not worth photos. I spent a considerable amount of time masking and filling/sanding. Not much in the construction, but, that'll continue tomorrow.

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:03 AM

Not surprising Rob with all those windows masking seems like a serious job. Guess that's one reason I don't build more choppers!  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, May 22, 2015 5:39 AM

Rob S.

So, this kit has such a spartan interior, I'm not unhappy that she's gonna bit pinned up tight. Nothing to see but a few rows of seats. This just means that the exterior has to be the main focus. Anyway, for a lower quality kit, I was quite pleased with how well the fuselage went together. Well sealed. The clear canopy went on perfectly too. That I didn't expect..

I 'smoked' the glass inside the top of the canopy cover prior to installing. There's an instrumentation decal on the interior cockpit roof too, but, it'll never be seen again!! Too bad. More tomorrow.

Hi Rob,

Nice work so far.  Very clean and great job on smoking the top glass!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, May 22, 2015 5:43 AM

modelcrazy

That looks wicked cool Rob  Yes

OK, here I go with the base, this will be the first time I try this method.

First I made the base out of an old piece of house siding and made poster board walls and used hot glue to attach them to the sides. I also stiffened the walls with some cardboard backing.

Then I placed the ship inside the box and laid in sawdust, and formed some crests and troughs. I then squirted some thin CA onto the sawdust to stabilize it. That worked remarkably well but use an enormous amount of glue. 

Once dried, I applied Mod Podge for a base for the acrylic gel.

I will use the acrylic gel to form the wave peaks and smooth the texture. After the gel will be applied, I'll paint dark blue mixed with turquoise at the foam. After the paint will come the cotton, but I'll show that when I get there.

That's all for now.

Steve

Wow Steve.  You have put a lot of thought into making that base!  Nice work!  Yes  Yes

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Friday, May 22, 2015 5:46 AM

Rob S.

looking forward to this Steve...watching with great interest.

I got a lot done today, but, not worth photos. I spent a considerable amount of time masking and filling/sanding. Not much in the construction, but, that'll continue tomorrow.

Hi Rob,

I don't envy you on the masking, especially all that glass.  Looking forward to seeing it when you are done!

Ken

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  • From: Toronto
Posted by Rob S. on Friday, May 22, 2015 8:20 PM

Well, I got a bunch of YELLOW done tonite..just yellow. Had a disaster too...I opened a brand new bottle of Insignia Yellow I got special for this kit and just as I twisted off the cap, I dropped the whole yellow mess on the floor. Managed to salvage enough to get a base coat and had to finish it off with Tamiya yellow:

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, May 23, 2015 7:48 AM

Ouch! I hate when that happens! I jut recently spilled a bottle of Lacquer Thinner all over too. Fortunately it was only about a third full, but still, I almost ruined parts of my Annie. Close call there. Paint looks great; you really laid it on smooth. Nice work!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, May 23, 2015 10:47 AM

I was not pleased with the way the sawdust was leaving lumps so I went over it with torn paper.
   

I Painted the blue and sprayed the seafoam green to the churn area. Next it the cotton application.          

Steve

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Posted by Rob S. on Saturday, May 23, 2015 11:26 AM

That water effect is incredible Steve!

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, May 23, 2015 5:30 PM

Rob: She looks fantastic!!! Again let me reiterate how much I HATE SPRAYING ANYTHING FRIGGIN' YELLOW!!! She did a great job with it.

Steve: Looks pretty doggone good to me!!! Looking forward to the larger finished photos.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Rob S. on Sunday, May 24, 2015 1:50 PM

Thanks Gam...yeah, I have to say, I made a colossal error, which could have been prevented. I had fully intended to prime this yellow monster. Well, after I dropped the Yellow paint bottle, I got frazzled knowing that I don't have easy access to a LHS, so, with what I had left in the bottle I went right to painting. Anyway, I wasn't happy with the first coats of Model Master acryl. THEN, another disaster struck....I KNOW you cannot mask over MM acryl...I KNOW this, I've made this mistake a dozen times...BUT, I bloody well did it again!! I almost quit on this one when I pulled off tons of yellow paint, but, I took a break for a day and went back at it and re-painted the offending spots! Anyway, after a calm break, I think I managed to recover the balance.

I did realize too, that I was remiss in keeping up with my photos so I missed some progress. Here is my progress after oil wash and initial decal application.

Also, the RCAF roundels supplied were way out of register, so, I had to 'luckily' substitute them from my spares box. Happily, I had a sheet of RCAF markings from a F-104.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, May 24, 2015 9:21 PM

Despite all the problems Rob she looks good! The red and black look perfect to me. And did you apply a brown wash? Brings out the detail without messing up the yellow.

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Posted by Rob S. on Monday, May 25, 2015 5:35 AM

Yes, Gam...just a dirty browny/black oil wash to bring out high features and panel lines.

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Posted by Rob S. on Monday, May 25, 2015 7:21 PM

I'm done with this yellow mess. I'm not happy with it, but, it is what it is. Lots of lessons learned...first being, don't paint a big monster helo yellow! I don't have a clue what happened, but, when I pulled off the masking, almost every glass surface...ON THE INTERIOR was stained with I don't know what. No idea what happened and I'm not impressed. Anyway, overall, it was a huge challenge and I need to do something like this again to try again to improve the technique. Thanks all and I appreciate the comments.

The decal for the rear rotor didn't work against the black, so, I created my own markings.

You can kind of see the marring in the front windshield. It's almost like the mess you get when you get CA glue fog on glass, but, I didn't use CA glue, so, again, NO idea what happened Crying

Thanks for lookin' and if you don't mind, I'll take a badge.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, May 25, 2015 7:55 PM

You may be less than happy with it Rob, but I think it looks awesome.

Steve

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Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:50 AM

Rob S.

Well, I got a bunch of YELLOW done tonite..just yellow. Had a disaster too...I opened a brand new bottle of Insignia Yellow I got special for this kit and just as I twisted off the cap, I dropped the whole yellow mess on the floor. Managed to salvage enough to get a base coat and had to finish it off with Tamiya yellow:

Ouch Rob, that is a bummer of dropping a brand new open bottle of paint.  I am sure that was a pain to clean up.

Your EH-101 certainly is yellow!  Looks like you got a nice smooth finish on it!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:52 AM

modelcrazy

I was not pleased with the way the sawdust was leaving lumps so I went over it with torn paper.
   

I Painted the blue and sprayed the seafoam green to the churn area. Next it the cotton application.          

Steve

Nice work Steve.  You are truly an artist!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:56 AM

Rob S.

Thanks Gam...yeah, I have to say, I made a colossal error, which could have been prevented. I had fully intended to prime this yellow monster. Well, after I dropped the Yellow paint bottle, I got frazzled knowing that I don't have easy access to a LHS, so, with what I had left in the bottle I went right to painting. Anyway, I wasn't happy with the first coats of Model Master acryl. THEN, another disaster struck....I KNOW you cannot mask over MM acryl...I KNOW this, I've made this mistake a dozen times...BUT, I bloody well did it again!! I almost quit on this one when I pulled off tons of yellow paint, but, I took a break for a day and went back at it and re-painted the offending spots! Anyway, after a calm break, I think I managed to recover the balance.

I did realize too, that I was remiss in keeping up with my photos so I missed some progress. Here is my progress after oil wash and initial decal application.

Also, the RCAF roundels supplied were way out of register, so, I had to 'luckily' substitute them from my spares box. Happily, I had a sheet of RCAF markings from a F-104.

Wow Rob!  You went to town on your EH-101!  Looks like you recovered nicely from pulling up the paint.  Sure can't see any blemishes in your photos.  Great job on the wash, it really makes it pop.  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 5:59 AM

Rob S.

I'm done with this yellow mess. I'm not happy with it, but, it is what it is. Lots of lessons learned...first being, don't paint a big monster helo yellow! I don't have a clue what happened, but, when I pulled off the masking, almost every glass surface...ON THE INTERIOR was stained with I don't know what. No idea what happened and I'm not impressed. Anyway, overall, it was a huge challenge and I need to do something like this again to try again to improve the technique. Thanks all and I appreciate the comments.

The decal for the rear rotor didn't work against the black, so, I created my own markings.

You can kind of see the marring in the front windshield. It's almost like the mess you get when you get CA glue fog on glass, but, I didn't use CA glue, so, again, NO idea what happened Crying

Thanks for lookin' and if you don't mind, I'll take a badge.

Great job Rob!  You blasted that one out pretty quick!  She came out great!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:53 AM

Ken, I think your helo is looking fabulous! Way to go. Question: is the blemish on the inside or outside of the canopy? I've had some fogging-type issues on mine before that were from my masking agent. If it is on the outside, try using Goo Gone to clean it up.

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Posted by Rob S. on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:38 AM

The marring is on the inside and she's sealed up tight.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 11:43 AM

I don't think anyone is satisfied with their own work, to me she looks fantastic Rob. You took an insanely complex scheme with probably the worst colour to paint, yellow, and knocked her right outta the park.

I wonder if the smudge might have something to do with Future, did you dip your clear parts in it? I've had it do some weird stuff before.

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Posted by jimbot58 on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:16 PM
Duke Maddog

Ken, I think your helo is looking fabulous! Way to go. Question: is the blemish on the inside or outside of the canopy? I've had some fogging-type issues on mine before that were from my masking agent. If it is on the outside, try using Goo Gone to clean it up.

I wonder if it is some residue from your masking agent? I've had that happen a few times and didn't discover it until the area was inaccessible. In any case, it looks great from here! Don't forget we are often our own worst critics! Jim

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Posted by jimbot58 on Tuesday, May 26, 2015 1:31 PM

Speaking of helicopters.....

I had a wild weekend! Went out to see my buddy out on the plains, where he works as a city official. I arrived on Sunday, and overnight they had some heavy rains, a ditch had overflowed and flooded some areas in town. I went out to the local airport to meet him as they were waiting for a chopper to take the group out to overlook the damage. What shows up but a Blackhawk! They were getting briefed and about to board, when my friends boss asks "we have an extra seat, does your friend want to go for a ride?" I couldn't say no, could I?

I have some photos that I will post later as I am at work now, but I couldn't wait to tell you guys!

Talk about a chance in a lifetime for a guy like me!

Jim

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Academy 1/72 SR-71 and Monogram B-52 "Big, Bad, and Beautiful"


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