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  • Member since
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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:20 AM

Nomad53

jimbot58

Doug, that camo on those jackets looks incredible to me! I can't figure how you did that!

Thanks Jim. I downloaded an artical from FSM called Paint Military Figuers. It is a very good on giving great tips and information.

My whole family has been sick with a stomach bug that has been going around so I am just getting back to the bench to get some work done. Here are some update photos.

Doug

Hi Doug,

That Panzer is coming right along!  Great job on the camouflage!  Yes  Yes 

Very sorry to hear about you family being sick.  There seems to be a lot of that stomach flu going around.  I have been lucky so far.  Had some friends that I had been with come down with it, as well as my wife!  So I don't know how I manage to avoid it so far.

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:39 AM

HI Everyone,

I can report that the original Gator's Grip Hobby Glue works like a champ!  After attaching that lap belt, I bent the belt to lay down on the contours of the seat and it held great.  I used a round toothpick to mold the seat belt.

Now I need to chisel off the molded on seat belts and fill that ejector pin mark and repaint. 

Ken

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    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Sunday, March 15, 2015 3:17 PM

Gamera

Ken: Thanks for the head's up there! I didn't know about the thin Gator's Grip by I have picked out a little with a toothpick and added a drop or two of water to thin it myself. Wonder if the thin version is better than that? I might have to order some next time I buy it.

Jim: I think Red Frog carries GG but I always buy it from their site. It's only five bucks a bottle and S&H is pretty cheap. As to where does the time go I have no idea- I know I'm getting old when I hear a song on the radio and think that I liked that song- haven't heard it in a while and the DJ tells me it was the top single twenty years ago!

Steve: Hey that's great news! And yow that's a lot of teeny tiny PE pieces!

I'll have get some GG for sure!

I know what you mean about the music. We have a local station that has always featured "oldies" and it seems these days they now feature a lot of the music I grew up with! "Oldies" indeed!

*******

On my workbench now:

"Third Annual Berny Memorial Build"

1/72nd scale Academy F-8E Crusader and A-10 "Warthog"


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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, March 15, 2015 7:30 PM

Doug: She looks pretty darn cool! Yeah, seems like the bug is going around- so far I haven't caught it think I've just been lucky there though.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Nomad53 on Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:27 PM

Thanks guys.

Lucky you Ken for not getting sick. it's a bummer for sure. Great job on the seat belt. I am going to check at Wal-Mart for the GG. They have all sorts of Gorilla Glue. They may have it.. I have a P-47 coming up that has PE and I am not comfortable using CA.

I am working on the tracks right now and I need to get all the wheels painted and touched up and then try my hand at weathering this thing. May need some suggestions and help on that part. i do not want to mess this one up at all.

Doug

Nomad53


 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, March 15, 2015 9:06 PM

Doug: Sorry but I think the only place to buy Gator Grip glue is their website. Red Frog Hobbies I think has it too. Gorilla Glue would probably work but it's a different product, if you want to try it please let us know how it goes.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Nomad53 on Monday, March 16, 2015 9:48 AM

Gamera

Doug: Sorry but I think the only place to buy Gator Grip glue is their website. Red Frog Hobbies I think has it too. Gorilla Glue would probably work but it's a different product, if you want to try it please let us know how it goes.

Okay Gamera, I may have miss-understood on what the name of the glue was. I will check out their web site.

Okay here are some photos on what I have done in the past day or two.

Doug

Nomad53


 

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, March 16, 2015 12:32 PM

Yikes! I have to use the microscope at work to see these ladders to bend the 4 little tabs. There are several more to do, along with the 20mm gun sights.


  

Unbelievable. This may take a while.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 16, 2015 7:21 PM

Doug: She's coming right along!

Steve: Ok, that gives me a headache just looking at it!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, March 16, 2015 8:14 PM

Nomad53

Gamera

Doug: Sorry but I think the only place to buy Gator Grip glue is their website. Red Frog Hobbies I think has it too. Gorilla Glue would probably work but it's a different product, if you want to try it please let us know how it goes.

Okay Gamera, I may have miss-understood on what the name of the glue was. I will check out their web site.

Okay here are some photos on what I have done in the past day or two.

Doug

Hi Doug,

It is very painless to order the Gator's Grip from Kenny.  All you need is a PayPal account.

Great job on the tracks and the figure!  Yes  Yes

Ken

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Monday, March 16, 2015 8:34 PM

modelcrazy

Yikes! I have to use the microscope at work to see these ladders to bend the 4 little tabs. There are several more to do, along with the 20mm gun sights.


  

Unbelievable. This may take a while.

Hi Steve,

Holy cow that is small!!  I don't know if you have heard of this before, so if you have, forgive me.  There are several tools available for bending photo etch.  One of my favorites is called "The Bug".  It may be worth the price for the number of photo etch you are planning to bend.  Here is a link:

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Tools/photo-etch-bending-tool-the-bug-rth-hold-and-fold/SMS00000002/product.php?kw=bug 

Ken

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 12:30 AM

Thanks Ken, I had no idea something like that existed, I can;t swing it now, but I got it on my wish list. In the mean time, I will go about it the old fashioned way.

OK here's crazy man's update for tonight. Propeller
The life boats, davits, aft gun tubs, and whatever those barrel racks are?? (maybe someone else knows, I never have) were completed tonight. The instructions call out for me to install the davits and life boats now. Are they nuts? They would break off and get lost if I looked at them wrong, let alone the whole building and painting process. Duh.
Check out the life boat propellers. I believe they are the smallest I have to fiddle with on this PE set. A whole lot of good they did in the end though.

Steve

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 7:53 AM

Propellers? I can't even SEE them except in the close-up photo... Indifferent

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dead

I hope it doesn't take you over the edge from Modelcrazy to just plane crazy...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 8:09 AM

Yeah, I was thinking last night, "what in the world am I doing. you probably won't even notice the life boats let alone the propellers". Oh well, I plunked good money for this set, so by gosh I'm going to put them on. Believe it or not, the platforms in the aft gun tubs were more difficult than the props.

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    May 2014
Posted by Nomad53 on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 10:46 PM

modelcrazy

Yeah, I was thinking last night, "what in the world am I doing. you probably won't even notice the life boats let alone the propellers". Oh well, I plunked good money for this set, so by gosh I'm going to put them on. Believe it or not, the platforms in the aft gun tubs were more difficult than the props.

Holy Cow!!!!!! Steve that is just nuts. I have a hard enough time doing 1/48 PE. What an awesome jop you have done. I can't wait to see more.

Makes me not want to post my photos. LOL.

Okay here goes. I am not done but here is the progress that I have made. I hope that what weathering I have done is good so far. I am going to darken the mud a bit and I still have to dull coat everything.

Please tell me what you thing and what I need to do to make it better.

Thanks All.

Doug

PS. Keep up all the great work.

Nomad53


 

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:15 AM

Doug,
Great work on the Pz IV.  May favorite German AFV. I don't know why, just classic lines.

Here's tonight progress. I built up some life rafts, watertight doors and installed the PE to the #2 turret.
Tomorrow night I think I'm going to build up the AA guns and finish turret #1 and #3. Wait till you see the AA guns. I'm going crosseyed. Thank goodness for the Optivisor.
  
Steve

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 7:39 AM

Doug: She's coming right along. I like the mud and the figures look cool. I think a tank with figures looks much better than one buttoned up with none.

Steve: Wow, that turret looks great! What is it, about the size of your fingernail?

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 9:41 AM

Gamera
Steve: Wow, that turret looks great! What is it, about the size of your fingernail?

Maybe twice the size.

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Posted by Nomad53 on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:23 AM

Thanks Gamera.

Steve that is amazing work. It is giving me the fuel to start my P-47 that has PE. Not a lot of it like yours but enough to give me a run for my money. I may need you to give me some tips on working with it.

It also has resin parts that I have never worked with. Any help on resin parts is welcome.

Going to dull coat the Pz IV today and call the kit done. The base will come later.

Thanks,

Doug

Nomad53


 

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:32 PM

modelcrazy

Gamera
Steve: Wow, that turret looks great! What is it, about the size of your fingernail?

Maybe twice the size.

That's still pretty dang impressive though! 

Doug: Cool, looking forward to the finished photos. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    July 2014
  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 12:57 PM

Nomad53
It is giving me the fuel to start my P-47 that has PE. Not a lot of it like yours but enough to give me a run for my money. I may need you to give me some tips on working with it.

Thank you Doug

1. Optivisor.
2. Exacto to cut parts from the sheet.
3. Needle nose tweezers to bend and apply the parts.
4. Something to place a drop of glue on. CA medium and thin in my case.
5. Toothpick or similar pointy object for applying glue to the parts.
6. A white sheet placed under me and my chair/table to aid in finding a part WHEN I drop one.
7. PATIENCE.

That's about it for tips on PE. I'm sure others have different methods, but that's mine.

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  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:48 PM

modelcrazy

Thanks Ken, I had no idea something like that existed, I can;t swing it now, but I got it on my wish list. In the mean time, I will go about it the old fashioned way.

OK here's crazy man's update for tonight. Propeller
The life boats, davits, aft gun tubs, and whatever those barrel racks are?? (maybe someone else knows, I never have) were completed tonight. The instructions call out for me to install the davits and life boats now. Are they nuts? They would break off and get lost if I looked at them wrong, let alone the whole building and painting process. Duh.
Check out the life boat propellers. I believe they are the smallest I have to fiddle with on this PE set. A whole lot of good they did in the end though.

Steve

Hi Steve,

Wow!  Just the thought of cutting those propellers loose from the fret without losing them makes my head spin!  Then trying to attach them to the plastic parts is insane!

Excellent work so far!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:55 PM

Nomad53

modelcrazy

Yeah, I was thinking last night, "what in the world am I doing. you probably won't even notice the life boats let alone the propellers". Oh well, I plunked good money for this set, so by gosh I'm going to put them on. Believe it or not, the platforms in the aft gun tubs were more difficult than the props.

Holy Cow!!!!!! Steve that is just nuts. I have a hard enough time doing 1/48 PE. What an awesome jop you have done. I can't wait to see more.

Makes me not want to post my photos. LOL.

Okay here goes. I am not done but here is the progress that I have made. I hope that what weathering I have done is good so far. I am going to darken the mud a bit and I still have to dull coat everything.

Please tell me what you thing and what I need to do to make it better.

Thanks All.

Doug

PS. Keep up all the great work.

Hi Doug,

Nice work!  Your Panzer looks awesome!  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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    July 2014
  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 11:27 PM

OK, I may have been a little too ambitious with the amount I could do in an evening. This AA gun took me 2 hours, and I have 5 more to complete. I also have numerous other guns to complete.
I broke off the muzzles of 2 guns and they are almost impossible to reattach.
Does anyone know how Academy's customer service is?

You looking at seats, sites, ammo racks, elevation cranks, and tracks

  

  • Member since
    June 2009
Posted by jimbot58 on Thursday, March 19, 2015 2:34 AM

Steve - That is just... OMG! I can barely handle the 1:72 PE work I do. I have barely enough patience to do maybe 2 or 3 parts in a sitting!

Doug, nice job on the Panzer!

I finally finished the decals on the A-10, sealed it all with some Testors Glosscoat, and started on the panel line pin wash. I am using artist oils and turpinoid thinner. I applied a drop here and there along the line and it flowed along the line. I wait a bit then wipe it away with old t-shirt rags.

The deeper recesses may require multiple applications as the paint tends to clump up a little in the larger gaps.

Mistakes can usually be rubbed away and sometimes I may need to hit some spots with a swab and a bit of the turpinoid thinner.

Also hit the upper wing of the F-8 -  I have to be more careful here as the turpinoid can soften the paint. I can't let it pool too long.

Inside the gear bay - the thinner did start to soften the paint here and it could have worse. I should lay down a coat of the lacquer first. The thinner doesn't affect it.

I know that top side of the bay looks a little rough here (plane is actually upside down) but it wont matter because the other door mounts there.

Jim

*******

On my workbench now:

"Third Annual Berny Memorial Build"

1/72nd scale Academy F-8E Crusader and A-10 "Warthog"


  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, March 19, 2015 5:59 AM

modelcrazy

Doug,
Great work on the Pz IV.  May favorite German AFV. I don't know why, just classic lines.

Here's tonight progress. I built up some life rafts, watertight doors and installed the PE to the #2 turret.
Tomorrow night I think I'm going to build up the AA guns and finish turret #1 and #3. Wait till you see the AA guns. I'm going crosseyed. Thank goodness for the Optivisor.
  
Steve

Hi Steve,

Nice work on the turret!  Nice detail.  Yes  Yes 

Ken

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 19, 2015 9:11 AM

Yow Steve, those are awesome! How many AA guns does she have? I swear I'd go blind before i finished them all.

Jim: Very nice work there on the wash. You're moving right along on her.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    May 2014
Posted by Nomad53 on Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:51 PM

Wow agsin Steve. I too would go blind.

Jim those panel lines look sharp. Great job.

Okay Ken here are two photos of the finished Pz IV. The panzer is from the 12th SS Panzer Division Hitlerjugend ("Hitler Youth") a German Waffen-SS armored division.

  Doug

PS Ken you pick the one you want to use for the completed page.

Nomad53


 

  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, March 19, 2015 5:29 PM

modelcrazy

OK, I may have been a little too ambitious with the amount I could do in an evening. This AA gun took me 2 hours, and I have 5 more to complete. I also have numerous other guns to complete.
I broke off the muzzles of 2 guns and they are almost impossible to reattach.
Does anyone know how Academy's customer service is?

You looking at seats, sites, ammo racks, elevation cranks, and tracks

  

Nice work Steve!  That looks great!  Yes Yes 

Ken

  • Member since
    November 2010
  • From: Lafayette, Indiana
Posted by Son Of Medicine Man on Thursday, March 19, 2015 5:37 PM

jimbot58

Steve - That is just... OMG! I can barely handle the 1:72 PE work I do. I have barely enough patience to do maybe 2 or 3 parts in a sitting!

Doug, nice job on the Panzer!

I finally finished the decals on the A-10, sealed it all with some Testors Glosscoat, and started on the panel line pin wash. I am using artist oils and turpinoid thinner. I applied a drop here and there along the line and it flowed along the line. I wait a bit then wipe it away with old t-shirt rags.

The deeper recesses may require multiple applications as the paint tends to clump up a little in the larger gaps.

Mistakes can usually be rubbed away and sometimes I may need to hit some spots with a swab and a bit of the turpinoid thinner.

Also hit the upper wing of the F-8 -  I have to be more careful here as the turpinoid can soften the paint. I can't let it pool too long.

Inside the gear bay - the thinner did start to soften the paint here and it could have worse. I should lay down a coat of the lacquer first. The thinner doesn't affect it.

I know that top side of the bay looks a little rough here (plane is actually upside down) but it wont matter because the other door mounts there.

Jim

Great job on the wash Jim!  You always do such a good job applying your wash.

I think I mentioned the Flory Models wash here before.  I have not yet had a chance to use it, but it will not harm paint.  Looking forward to trying it out.

Ken

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