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75th Anniversary of 1941 Group Build (World at War)

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, March 3, 2016 12:44 PM

Thnaks check.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, March 3, 2016 10:36 PM
Well I didn’t like the brown so I cross referenced the Humbrol 119 to MM and purchased dark tan 30219. I like it much better, so again tomorrow I’ll touch up the grey underside spay some gloss and apply the decals.

 

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Posted by suomi39 on Friday, March 4, 2016 10:46 AM

I am ashamed to admit that I was totally ignorant of the Westland Whirlwind until I saw it in this post.  An hour of Wikipedia and internet reading later, I'm much better educated on the subject. Very interesting aircraft, if a bit "unbalanced" looking. But you gotta love a nose full of cannon. 

Here's a small update on my Hurricane. I'll be posting a full WIP in the Aircraft forum as well.

Cockpit is basically done. Only lost 2 or 3 PE parts in the process. Confused Then painted the sidewalls (the Eduard cockpit green color didn't match) and used a toothpick to scrape the paint off the instruments/controls.  I had to modify the seat back/bulkhead to remove some extra armor. Glosscoat, black wash, flat coat, dots of future on the instrument faces, then a brown dirt pastel dusting. 

Sprayed a gray guide coat on the filled and rescribed wing panels, and found some clean up was needed. Scribing lines is hard -- use a straightedge! Re-did these but forgot to take pics. 

Then cemented the wings together. Fit is not all that great, sadly -- and very much depends on how you assemble the landing gear bays. Should clean up pretty well though.

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, March 4, 2016 11:10 AM

Still looks good, Steve.  With all the debate and controversy about the Dupont paint, I think your Tiger will turn out looking fine.

I finally settled on MM's Military Brown, Medium Green, and Aircraft Gray; but I'm still stuck on cleaning up the parts.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, March 4, 2016 11:12 AM

Excellent work on the cockpit, suomi.  The detail work is looking great.

Know what you mean about scribing.  Turned and F4F-4 Wildcat into an F4F-3 a couple of years ago, by re-scribing the wings.  It was a challenge.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 4, 2016 1:13 PM

suomi39

I am ashamed to admit that I was totally ignorant of the Westland Whirlwind until I saw it in this post.  An hour of Wikipedia and internet reading later, I'm much better educated on the subject. Very interesting aircraft, if a bit "unbalanced" looking. But you gotta love a nose full of cannon.

Thats ok suomi, so was i. In fact, i am pretty clueless when it comes to most things RAF. I got the kit because i have a lng term project to build aircrfat from all 37 military airfields in the county of Norfolk, where i am from. I want as wide a range of posable. when i realised this kit had a Norfolk based option in the markings, and it was somthing a bit differant, i just had to add it to the project.

Some nice work there, and only lseing 2 or 3 PE parts is an achievment in itself.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 4, 2016 1:14 PM

Coming on well there Steve. Any water in this one. Wink

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 4, 2016 1:47 PM

Bish
Coming on well there Steve. Any water in this one.

As much as I tried, I couldn't come up with a good reason to put water in it.

Check, I believe the reddish brown was MM Military Brown, the green I used was MM Interior Green and the grey was MM Light Ghost Grey. Everything seems to look fine on it no. The Military Brown and Interior Green just clashed. kinda like certin shades of red and blue do.

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Posted by DantheMan85 on Friday, March 4, 2016 2:40 PM

Thanks Checkmate.

Modelcrazy: Nice brown color on the top, the green camouflage looks great. Silly putty always comes in handy.

Thanks SMJmodeler: Yeah I was surprised so see the color darken up after drying.

Suomi39: Nice looking photo-etch, looking forward to your Hurricane build.

Bish: Camouflage looks great on the Whirlwind.

First color I airbrushed on my Panzer IV was Model Master Afrika Dunkelgrau '42 #2103, wanted to post shade with MM Sand #2053 but that turned out to be to light. So I mixed #2103 with Light Gray #1732, the result turned out to be just what I was looking for. The areas where the germen gray show's, I misted over them so that color doesn't stand out to much.

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 5, 2016 12:58 AM
Check,
Well dog gone it, I messed up the shark mouth Bang Head, maybe I can find a sheet or just get another kit since it was only $8.00. A couple of things to be aware of while assembling the.
1. Install the wheel hubs before attaching the wheels to the gear
2. Be careful of the wing mounted guns, they are very easy to break off.
3. The red tail stripe decal is not designed for the curve of the fuselage, you may want to paint it.
Well anyway, here is 68 until I get the shark mouth and weather it.

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:53 AM

Looks sharp, Steve.  Sorry to hear about the shark mouth.  I wondered about it and the squadron stripe.  With the curves involved, decals can present a real headache.

If you want to PM me your address, I can send you a shark mouth from the Airfix kit--no charge.  I bought three of them, plus two Kits World decal sheets, so I have more than I need.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:54 AM

That is really impressive paint work, Dan.  I like the variations.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 5, 2016 6:17 PM

Thanks Check, I will take you up on that if Airfix doesn't respond. I emailed them and cried on their shoulder. 

The boo boo was my fault. I grabbed the nose to touch up the canopy and FUBARed them before they were dry. I noticed my error after they had dried and set.

Steve

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Posted by Hunter on Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:01 PM

modelcrazy

Thanks Check, I will take you up on that if Airfix doesn't respond. I emailed them and cried on their shoulder. 

The boo boo was my fault. I grabbed the nose to touch up the canopy and FUBARed them before they were dry. I noticed my error after they had dried and set.

 

Hello Steve -

Dang decals...I did that on my Zero build. Had to order a single sheet to replace the one decal I messed up while working on. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:45 PM

Hunter
Dang decals...I did that on my Zero build. Had to order a single sheet to replace the one decal I messed up while working on. 

Yeah, it happens to all of us regardless if you've been building for 1 month or 50 years.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:13 AM

Just a short update as i am almost at the end of this build. With the decals on, i use some flory wash top give a slightly grubby look, Tamiya XF-19 for some exhaust stains and a coat of clear matt.

The base got some grass added once the celluclay was dry.

And the ground equipment was painted and dry brushed and just needs a bit of wear and some dirt.

Just got a few bits to add, sort the figure sout, the fun part, and get it all on the base.

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On the bench: Italeri 1/72nd Bell 212/Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat/Trumpeter 1/32nd Me 262A-1a

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:15 AM

DantheMan85

Thanks Checkmate.

Modelcrazy: Nice brown color on the top, the green camouflage looks great. Silly putty always comes in handy.

Thanks SMJmodeler: Yeah I was surprised so see the color darken up after drying.

Suomi39: Nice looking photo-etch, looking forward to your Hurricane build.

Bish: Camouflage looks great on the Whirlwind.

First color I airbrushed on my Panzer IV was Model Master Afrika Dunkelgrau '42 #2103, wanted to post shade with MM Sand #2053 but that turned out to be to light. So I mixed #2103 with Light Gray #1732, the result turned out to be just what I was looking for. The areas where the germen gray show's, I misted over them so that color doesn't stand out to much.

 

 

 

Thnaks dan, i like where your going with the IV.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

On the bench: Italeri 1/72nd Bell 212/Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat/Trumpeter 1/32nd Me 262A-1a

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 6, 2016 9:16 AM

Steve, coming on nice, i can see why you would have troubles with those decals. I hope you can find another shark mouth, would not look right without it.

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Posted by suomi39 on Sunday, March 6, 2016 10:09 AM

I can sure sympathize with the decal issues. My Ms.406 build was set back by tail number problems until I gave up and made a tiny mask and painted the dang things.

The Whirlwind is looking awesome! How do you like those Flory washes? Looks good from here. I have been experimenting with homemade ones and with "the detailer" and am still unsure. 

Love the color moderation on that armor, too. Looking forward to weathering. 

 

Buttoned the Hurricane up. Luckily the fit of all of this was VERY good. Almost no gaps left over, and there will not be much filling/sanding to do. 

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 6, 2016 10:21 AM

Thanks suomi. One of the past members on here got me onto those washes a few years back and i really like them. I find them easy to use and after a litle practice can give results from just a panel wash to a really dirty look. It can depend on whether you are adding them to a gloss or flat surface. On this one i added them to the gloss so it was easier to remove,

Really nice work on the Hurricane, that good to hear about the joins.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, March 6, 2016 3:10 PM

A few Hawks never did receive the shark mouth, according to Osprey's AVG book, probably because they were in maintenance at the time, and there was no opportunity to add it later. Unfortunately, the fuselage number in the Airfix kit wasn't one of them.  There's a profile of Number 3 from First Pursuit Squadron in the book illustrating this.  Nope; it doesn't look right--but there's history for ya.

Bish:  great work on the Whirlwind; fine job with the assembly and painting.  It should make a really attractive diorama.  It's not something you see everyday.  Looked 'em up at wiki; didn't know that they went back to 1938.  Article says they were withdrawn from service in '43, but had equipped three RAF squadrons.

Always good to learn something new!

suomi:  nice progress with the Hurricane.  Looks like it's going to finish up very well.  It looks great with the decals in place.  

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 6, 2016 3:20 PM

Thanks check. Ye, they were not in service for long. And this only just makes 1941 as the first FB versions, converted form the original fighters, only appear at the end of that year.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 11, 2016 3:09 PM

Ok guys, time to wrap this build up. Forst some pics of the finished thing before i added it to the base. The final touches was simply to add the canopy, propellers, cannon and wires. I also added a bomb under the right wing. Its a metal bomb and rather heavy, so it fell off a couple of times before i was finally ableto secure it.

And the finished ground vehicles.

I based the dio on some pics i found. In a couple of them the guys are useing a wooden carrier to move the bombs to the aircraft. So i made one from some balsa wood and gave it a brush with some oil paints.

Here is acouple of the pics i found.

And this is my take on it. I found some figures which were close to what i wnated and either altered them or fitted different arms than intended to get the pose i wanted.

Thanks all for your comments and a big thanks check for the chance to build this.

Now its time to a slight change of tac and build some armour.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 11, 2016 3:18 PM
What a great looking build Bish. YesYesYes The extra work on the support vehicles really adds to the scene as usual.

Steve

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 11, 2016 3:21 PM

Thnaks Steve. I do like adding vehicle to a scene. At some point, i plan on doing a Lanc with a bomb train of 5 or 6 trolleys. That should be fun. Big Smile

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, March 11, 2016 4:01 PM

Nice job, Bish.  That's a busy looking scenario!  Well-executed and planned.

Where did you obtain the little people? 

Which photo would you like for the front page?  They all look good.

Was just watching a BBC produced WWII documentary on Netflix.  One of the parts featured a long train of bombs heading out to the planes.  It was pretty impressive.

Thanks for being part of the GB.  It's always a pleasure and your builds are always well-done.

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 11, 2016 4:09 PM

Thanks check. The figures areva mix of Revell and Airfix.

There is one pic i used for the tractor which shows a long bomb train.

Now thats pretty impressive. But that would need a big base lol, even in 72nd. Those flightpath sets are very nice, its just a shame the range of figures are limited.

I willleave the photo up to you, as host, that your prerogative Wink

And thanks again. I am already lining up 1942's build. I am thinking armour for that.

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, March 11, 2016 9:27 PM

Bish, another great scene you've got there.  Congrats on a job extremely well done. Yes
Is the ground work the same materials you would use for the larger armour scale?

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:57 AM

Thanks Jack. Ye, i use the smae scatter materials, but in these i use more of the smaller scatter materials than the longer flock that i would use more of in a 35th dio.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, March 12, 2016 11:38 AM

Front page is updated, Bish.  You're the first to finish, so congratulations are due there!

Great photo of the WAAF with the bombs.  Looks like some bombs are green and some are yellow.  Does that mean different types, did the RAF just change colo(u)rs?  

Thanks again for participating.  It will be good to see some of your armor in 1942.

 

 

 

 

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