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The official Submarine Warfare Group Build 2016 - 2017

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Posted by MailDude on Wednesday, July 27, 2016 2:15 PM

Thanks for the add. It's good to be back on here, seeing great work and learning new techniques. 

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Posted by waynec on Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:14 PM

i should know better but...

is this just war submarines or can we consider deep submersibles? i have a 1/350 French Surcouf and a couple of CSA subs but also some Japanese research subs.

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, July 28, 2016 6:49 PM

Nice badge for the Gato's.........I just hope she has the "Hells Bells" installed. 

You and Cody did a great job on all the badges.  Can't hardly wait til next week to break her out.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:10 PM

Wayne, 

Any submersible will do.

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Posted by hogfanfs on Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:16 PM

goldhammer

For those with Smithsonian Channel, they are starting a new program on July 17th @ 9:00 PM (eastern).  Called "Hell Below" it is on subs.  Looks to start in the Atlantic on the trailer I've seen up to now.  Just in time for us here.

 

Hey, GH, I've taped 2 of the Hell Below shows, however, I haven't stopped to see one yet. Have you seen one, and if so, How did you like it?

 

 Bruce

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, July 28, 2016 7:27 PM

  Hey awesome GATO badge ! I started the sail on my sub . typical 70's kit I haven't built this sub since I was a kid should be fun .

  

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:20 PM

Oops, I'll let Cody know, tks 

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, July 29, 2016 8:44 AM

HF-  The first two were on the small pond ( U99 and the pounding she took before her loss, and the early attacks on the US east coast).

This Sunday they move to the Pacific and US boats, that is what I've been waiting for.

So far I like what I've seen, but wondering how long the series is.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 12:17 PM
Nice start on the sale Crown, Just keep under 10% started.
Three more days!! HA! I hear the U-boat calling. I’m going to order the Eduard 10.5 cm deck gun to convert the U-505 into the U-527. I wanted something different. The U-527 had an unremarkable carrier but better than some. I was debating between the 527 and the 557..why? well, reasons. I like the shield on the 557 and the wife likes the shield on the 527, so I do the 527, again, reasons.

 

Anyway for those of you who may be interested, here is the link to the 527 page.
http://uboat.net/boats/u527.htm
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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 29, 2016 12:38 PM

Steve, does the deck gun go with the kit tower or are you changing that.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 1:32 PM

Bish,

The Eduard AM was designed for the Revell kit.

"The Eduard Brassin German Submarine 10.5cm gun kit, model 672053, is the answer to the missing deck gun in the Revell #80-5114 kit especially for those looking to create alternative depictions of the Type IX U-boat. This Brassin kit consists of cast resin and photo etch parts which, when constructed, will provide a viable option to the wanting modeler."

http://inscale.org/public/?p=11557

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 29, 2016 2:19 PM

Ok, problem is, as i understand it, the deck gun was removed at a certain stage. So really it isn't missing from the kit as the boat as portrayed didn't have it.I believe the deck guns were removed in 1943, but i can't find when the later type of tower that the Revell kit has was fitted.

I was thinking of getting that gun, but for the type IX i want to build, i know i need an earlier tower for the one in the kit.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 2:40 PM
I see what you’re saying. Hmm, I need to do some research on the tower. I need to take a look at my U-boats in action although it doesn’t cover the type IX very much.....and I may need to change which boat I build, although not the 505.
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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:09 PM

The other boat I was thinking of was the 507. It was a type IXC, should be close enough to the 505 but still has the deck gun.

Armament:

It sunk several ships and was lost to a Cat.

http://uboat.net/boats/u507.htm

Plus my wife would like the emblem.

I just need to do some reserch on the tower, but it was constructed by Deutsche Werft AG, Hamburg like the 505. Nothing is in stone but I would like to mount the 10.5 cm gun. It's just too cool.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:13 PM

Hey MC... I'd sure like to get in on this one. I found an Academy type IX UBoat at a yard sale a few yrs ago, and I've been looking for a good reason to build. I've never really built but 1 sub before and this will be new to me, being I want to do a wreck. II'll need to do a bit of research and may not be able to kick off on the start date but shortly there after? 

Thanks

Doug

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:21 PM

I ned to do some research as well. Tomorrow i plan on going through my box's of books that are stored in the shed. I am sure theres a U-Boat book in there that will help.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:22 PM

Rigidrider

Hey MC... I'd sure like to get in on this one. I found an Academy type IX UBoat at a yard sale a few yrs ago, and I've been looking for a good reason to build. I've never really built but 1 sub before and this will be new to me, being I want to do a wreck. II'll need to do a bit of research and may not be able to kick off on the start date but shortly there after? 

Thanks

Doug

 

WOW, looks whose showed up. How you been, glad to see you back.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:54 PM

Yup, lolol... I'm back, it has been so terribly busy this year, we've made 2 trips to the Philippines getting our house remodeled, my wife FINALLY got her USCitizenship, work has been effing crazy busy, and I have prescious little time to build anything as of late. And on top of all that I have a surgeon wanting to  remove some of my body parts next possible opportunity.  AAAAARGH ... lolol... but, I have thought of and have missed each and every one of you and am wanting to build again! I look forward to the banter and amazing builds as was in the past. Can't wait to start! 

Doug

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 3:57 PM

You got it Doug. Welcome Sign I assume that is the 1/150 scale?

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Posted by Rigidrider on Friday, July 29, 2016 6:33 PM

OOOPS... yes, 1/150.  Cant wait to start, just waiting on a book to help with research... U-869 looks interesting, but still have to narrow down some. Thanks!

Doug

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Posted by Wirraway on Friday, July 29, 2016 8:18 PM
Put me down for the Academy 1/150 IXB as well. I normally dont like to build the same kit as someone else on a GB, but Doug is doing a wreck and this is the only sub in my stash so....

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, July 29, 2016 10:36 PM

You got it Wirraway.

Good to see you here.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:09 PM
After some serious research, mainly using Douglas Martindale’s writings on the 505 on the Accurate Model Parts site, and looking up other papers, I decided to go with the 515. This is my final decision......Really!!
It seems that the 507, 527 and 557 which were my original choices, would have had the Turm-II (tower (a single 20 on the upper platform and a single 20 on the Wintergarden) as the Turm-IV (two single 20 on either side of the tower on the upper platform) would have come around after the start of 1943. The 507 was sunk in Jan 43, 527 was sunk in May 43, so it may have had the Turm-IV, no telling. But the 527 would have surly had the quad 20 Vierling on the Wintergarden as the single auto 37, in the kit, wasn’t available in numbers yet. The 557 was sunk Dec 41 so there’s no way it has the Turm-IV. The Turm-IV wasn’t even conceived of yet.
So where did that leave me? Searching for another subject to reproduce.
Enter the 515. More searching reviled a survivor’s report after it’s sinking in Arp 44 by rockets and DC’s. After interviewing the survivor’s, it was reviled that the 515 had 2 single 20s, an auto 37 and was missing the 10.5 cm deck gun during its 6th and last patrol, just like the Revell kit. This is nice as I won’t have to scratch out a ready locker in front of the tower.
The 515 had a pretty illustrious career, sinking 25 ships and damaging 2. It was apparently one of the top scoring boats of the 10th Flotilla. The emblems she wore were a hammer on either side of the tower (not very glamorous) and the 10th Flotilla emblem on the front.
  
So research done, I will be starting this tomorrow. The missing box sure leaves a hole in the stash pile.
 
Steve
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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 31, 2016 1:19 PM

Gald to see you got it sorted out Steve. I did find my book but its not that helpful. I needf to sit down for a good session and go through Douglas's work.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:12 PM
Thanks to you questioning it. That made me step back and hit the books. It amazes me how much research goes into a build if you want to get it right.
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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 31, 2016 2:41 PM

Tell me about it. I love it. But sometimes i do like just getting into a build and not worrying about it. Just not to often Big Smile

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Posted by waynec on Sunday, July 31, 2016 4:39 PM

Bish

Tell me about it. I love it. But sometimes i do like just getting into a build and not worrying about it. Just not to often Big Smile

 

YEP. we don't do that well. I now have 2 wargames on the Leningrad campaign and one on the Russo-Finnish War. finished my 3rd book on that and, so typical, now have a 1/35 Finnish BT-42, Soviet T-28 (2 of which were captured and used by the Finns), BT-5, Ba-10, T-26, AFV CLUB T-34 with clear hull and interior and a T-35 (which wasn't in that war but was part of the Leningrad Military District). All this for class prep for my fall class on the siege of Leningrad.

So let's just open the T-28 box and build it. But NOOOOOO!!! let's research pics for a diorama ala Bish, look up Finnish armor in the Continuation War, search for 1/35 Finnish ski troops, learn how to make white snow (i know how to make yellow snow) look for videos online and read 4 more books in August and start my class slides.

I know. Let's get into modern naval warfare in the South China Sea and U-boats. and we have a new dog. Typical.Big Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 1, 2016 9:39 AM

The official start of the Official Submarine Warfare GB 2016-17

I believe I will start off my 1st entry with a breakdown of what I have here.

The kit was purchased a few years back by my daughter on Father's Day and I received the PE Big Ed set last Christmas. I didn't get the Pontos wood deck because frankly' I couldn't afford or justify it. Like I said earlier, the removal of the box from the stash sure leaves a huge hole Confused I need to fill the void.

Well here it is. I'm sure most everyone is familiar with the kit, have one in your stash, built one yourself or watched a few WIP builds. The hull comes in 4 pieces and is going to require some surgery to open the limber holes and flood hatches. I will also build a representation of the pressure hull which can be seen through the limber holes.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 1, 2016 11:42 AM

The building and launching ways are open and the welders are storming the entrance.....

 

I'll follow right behind.  Got the foam board glued up last night (Yeah, jumped the gun a touch), and the hull opening cut out this morning.  Here she is, along with the White Ensign PE set and the Nautlis resin gun set, and I was able to get a second 20mm from him without buying another complete gun set. Also a pic of the plate made up for the base.  Hope to get the pressure hull and hull together this week, along with shaping the foam board. 

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Posted by MailDude on Monday, August 1, 2016 6:44 PM

Well, I can't say I have gotten started on my build yet. But, what I did do today was take the sheet of instructions to Office Max, and got it laminated. The sheet was so old I was afraid it would crumble with much use. The sheet was 15"X29", and it cost less than $4 to laminate. That seems like a real deal if anyone else may need the same service in the future.

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