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The official Submarine Warfare Group Build 2016 - 2017

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 1, 2016 7:16 PM

That's an awesome idea MD, I never thought of that.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 1, 2016 9:57 PM
I started grinding off the plastic behind the limber holes, vents and scuppers. This is a messy time consuming process but should help immensely in opening them up. I have read of grinding them completely to open them, halfway and drilling the front and not at all and just using a drill. I’m choosing the middle one.
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Posted by MailDude on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 7:33 AM

modelcrazy

That's an awesome idea MD, I never thought of that.

 

I thought so. Although I did it to protect really old plans, a plus is paints will wipe right off. So will coffeeBig Smile.

Looks like you are getting a good start on your kit. I'm trying to get a little more adventurous at modifying my builds. I get a lot of inspiration and motivation at seeing you guys work on here. Thanks for thatYes.

MailDude a.k.a. mailwalker

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 8:41 AM

MD,

 

It use to really freak me out to cut and hack but not anymore. I can always fix it with filler mad styrene.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, August 2, 2016 9:39 PM
I did some work on the starboard stern and installed the PE. I realized that removing the precise amount of plastic before installing the PE pieces wasn’t necessary. For the port side I’m first drilling some locating holes. I will glue the PE on first then grind the inside. Once this is ground down I’ll cut out the holes with an Exacto.
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Posted by Real G on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:07 PM

Sorry guys, I have been busy with non-model stuff lately.  But all the activity on the GB has gotten me to start my project:

https://flic.kr/p/KEDQDZ] [/url]Resurgam-05 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

I will be drafting up a set of basic drawings to make patterns for the various parts.  Also it is a good time to do a check against Mikro-Mir's research, as I have a feeling it is very suspect.

Still on the fence regarding forming the hull parts.  A straight-up lamination/sanding is the least work, but that would result in a heavy model.  I am leaning towards heat forming the hull panels over turned cones made of balsa.  Remember, my mantra is "measure once, cut twice", so what will happen is anyone's guess!

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:11 PM

I'm glad to see you start up G. I always like your unusual projects.

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Posted by MailDude on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:15 PM

modelcrazy
I did some work on the starboard stern and installed the PE. I realized that removing the precise amount of plastic before installing the PE pieces wasn’t necessary. For the port side I’m first drilling some locating holes. I will glue the PE on first then grind the inside. Once this is ground down I’ll cut out the holes with an Exacto.
 

That is some great work. You must have a lot mor patience than I.

I actually considered throwing in the towel on this build yesterday, but have since decided to stick with it. The problem is the plastic is so hard. Nothing like my previous kits. I have to use my coarsest sanding stick to remove the littlest material. The locator holes are all too smal, or maybe the locator pins are super clunky. But......here's what I have so far. Dryfitted not glued yet. 

The torpedoe room, with some torpedoes in the background.

MailDude a.k.a. mailwalker

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:38 PM

MailDude
The problem is the plastic is so hard. Nothing like my previous kits. I have to use my coarsest sanding stick to remove the littlest material. The locator holes are all too smal, or maybe the locator pins are super clunky.

Yep, sounds like an old Renwal kit. For tough plastic I use small files which will knock down that plastic pretty quick.

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Posted by armornut on Thursday, August 4, 2016 1:11 PM

So I don't forget that I'm part of this GB  I'm off and running, silent running that is, LOL, as soon as I post this my sub is coming out so I can plan my build. As soon as I can co- ordinate with my wife pix will follow. Everything I have seen here so far is awesome.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:06 AM

Bish

I also have the 1/72 Type IX and want to build it not as the 505 and want to add the deck gun. There is so much to research to make sure the set up is correct. Which gun are you using? The Eduard one is said to be out of scale unless they fixed the problem.

And speaking about out of scale, same thing hapenned with their Brasin MER set where the loading lugs on Mk. 82s don't match the MER's attachment points and are a bit too short so the Mk 82s at the rear stations hit the front ones! I compared them to the Hasegawa's MERs and you can see the size difference. 

 

Steve

I have built several 1/72 Type VIIs and did the same thing about grinding down the inside of the hull to where you almost see daylight and then clean up the holes with a #11 blade and round files.

I will be starting my 1/144 Gato soon as I'm in between several builds and a couple of comissions, so I haven't forgotten. I will be watching your progress on this one with great interest.

That last Badge is just too cool not to grab, excellent looking Badge!   

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:13 AM

PJ, i don't have anything for the Type IX yet. I have not even looked into what i will get as i have been hoping for a new tower. I had not looked at the Eduard gun but i was thinking about the CMK. When i saw that being release, i was hoping that would mean an earlier tower.

I will leave the Type IX for a while, once i have done my 1/125th kit, i want to focus on the Type VII as i have everything for that. I have seen those MER's but not read anything about them, thats a real shame. I have the Brasin deck gun for the Type VII, i might have to check that out and se if there any problems.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, August 6, 2016 7:42 PM

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 6, 2016 9:59 PM

That sure looks nice GH. I like the way Trumpeter molds the hull with the open limber holes. I'm still working on the holes on the U-boat. Sheesh, what a mess that makes.

 

PJ, that’s what I heard. Just about anything will do as long as there's something in there.

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Posted by Real G on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:18 PM

Okay here goes with the 1/72 Resurgam.  Please bear with me as I make stuff up as I go along.  Stick out tongue

https://flic.kr/p/KXCqA2] [/url]Resurgam-06 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/KQVcfi] [/url]Resurgam-07 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/KUTSZy] [/url]Resurgam-08 by N.T. Izumi, on Flickr

Looks like something out of Star Trek.

I guess I will have to make a balsa cone to heat form the front and back end panels.  The real thing was covered with three sections of steel plate with lapped edges, so I wil probably replicate this when making the panels.   This thing is tiny - maybe I should have scaled up to 1/35.  Oh well.

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:28 PM

Nice work GH. But looks like your really spoilt with those holes open and you get the pressure hull as well.

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On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:42 PM

Bish

Nice work GH. But looks like your really spoilt with those holes open and you get the pressure hull as well.

 

 

Since the younger of my two sisters was 16 years older, I guess I'm the original spoiled bratBig Smile

 

Got the deck and hull sanded and clamped to glue, will get that done tonight. Then start on the tower and some of the PE, and fill and the deck seams.  At least I won't have to fill/sand the bottom.

 

G- good start, if it was me, I'd have to go to 1/16 to be able to do anything.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:52 PM

G,

By the looks of your mat the build looks to be around 7 to 8 inches. Nice work, I'm interested to see the cone.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 8, 2016 1:55 PM

G, i didn't realise you were scratchbuilding, really nice work. Are you working off a set of plans or just working it out as you go.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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Posted by Real G on Monday, August 8, 2016 2:39 PM

Bish, I just pieced together some rough drawings based on stuff I pulled dowm from the Internet.  The one illustration with dimensions and a graphic scale that I found seems to be off on either the overall length or max diameter, but I'll just eyeball it so it looks like the photos.

Goldhammer and Steve, yeah it's still kinda snack-sized - Twinkie versus Tootsie Roll compared to Mikro-Mir's 1/144 plastic kit.  I might upscale later on to 1/35 to go with my other weird sub kits.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, August 15, 2016 10:11 AM

Guys,

Cody fixed the misspellings on the two badges and we added one more badge for the Japanese.... to make things just a little harder for you.

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:31 PM

Alright! Now that you've added an American Gato badge.....I can't refuse.  I'll be doing the 1/72nd scale Revell Gato, finishing it as the USS Jack: my grandfather's submarine.

Good work so far everyone!  Looking forward to watching everyone's progress and adding my own humble contributions.

TAD

2019 New Year's Resolution:  Enter 1 group build and COMPLETE a build this year!!  Why Photobucket did you rob me of my one Group Build Badge???  Must be part of the strong anti-Monogram cartel!!!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, August 18, 2016 8:54 PM

Tal Afar Dave
 I'll be doing the 1/72nd scale Revell Gato

Holy Smoke! That's a bigun!

I got you down TAD

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, August 20, 2016 12:18 AM
It’s taking a while and I thought I finished the drilling, grinding, filing and trimming, but the flood holes near the fore torpedo tubes need drilling. I was going to leave them undrilled at first but that was bothering me. I worked so hard on the rest of the limber holes, flood plates and drain holes, I just need to get it done. I also installed some of the PE and still have more to add to the hull including the rest of the flood plates.
I wanted to get something up picture wise so here it is. I’ll probably have the exterior hull done this weekend than on to the torpedo tubes.
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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, August 21, 2016 8:00 PM
An update. I cut out the torpedo flood holes and finished the hull PE then I decided to add a whole lot more work to my build and try some oil canning. This is the first time to try this method and I think it’s turning out alright. Maybe not so deep on the rest of the hull. It’s too late to stop now, but it should add a really nice effect.
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Posted by Rigidrider on Monday, August 22, 2016 8:10 AM

having never really built submarines, this is quite the learning experiance. Loving all the info and the good looking work going on. hope to get started soon on mine... I'll just try to keep up...

take care all...

Doug

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Make Lemonade!

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, August 22, 2016 8:36 AM

TAD-  Are you planning on any of the PE for it?  If you use the Eduard deck set it requires cutting out all the "planking" on the main deck and putting in 2mm x 2mm square cross beams in the right spots.  The PE does open up the holes in the decking though.  Looks like the tower set is real nice.  Have the Big Ed kit for mine, have looked her over but not anywhere near a start yet.

MC- Nice work on the outer hull plating.  I like that touch.

 

Finished getting the deck attached and almost have it smoothed up forward, got the sides of the fairwater glued up and the cig deck in.  Have to fill the deck/hull seam and a few voids.  Gettting ready to start on all the tower PE----the nightmare is lurking.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Monday, August 22, 2016 3:08 PM

Tedious job using a curved blade for the oil canning but you have more control over using a Dremel. Looks awesome Steve.

I started researching for my Gato build so I will be posting soon.

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Posted by Rigidrider on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:21 AM

OK, time to start building... already ran into issues with kit. guess I had better start looking closer when buying from yard sales and model shows. The kit I THOUGHT that I had bought several years ago,  acording to the box is an Academy 150th type IX, it actually turns out to be a Model Craft 150th type VII C. had to look up online and down load instructions. also had to re research this type. No problem though, I can still do the build I want to do. By the looks of it, its not a bad kit, but even though it states ' highly detailed' its not, and will require a lot of scratch building to get it right. You can however build it with a motor (battery operated) that allows actual operation in a pool or such. lol...Any way, pictures to follow soon... Thanks

Doug

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, August 24, 2016 9:44 AM

Cool Doug, can't wait to see your progress. Are you still planning a wreck?

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