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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, March 24, 2017 1:30 PM

You are welcome GH. Those weapons will add tons of excellent details. I too will be ordering some more things for a late war refit to come soon.

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, March 24, 2017 12:50 PM

Ordered out 3-20's and the 4"/50 for both the 1/144 and 1/72 Gato's.  Cost me a few bucks but should be worth it in the long run.  They should really set off the big one.

Many thanks to PJ for digging out the info and working to get the maker to do a 1/144 4"/50.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, March 24, 2017 10:20 AM

GH check you PM, great news!!

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, March 23, 2017 5:13 PM

MC & PJ-

Thanks, went and had a look.  Seems like I'll be putting in an order for their 4"/50, 20's in 1/72 and their 20's in 1/144.  Seems Wahoo had the pedestal bases insted of the tripod style, at least from the pics I've seen of her in July '43.  Haven't seen any showing what she had in Jan./Feb. after her 3rd patrol.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 23, 2017 4:20 PM

GH

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:45 PM

GH,

Take a look at these. There may be something that you find intresting.

 

https://www.shapeways.com/search?q=1%2F72+deck+guns&type=

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:41 PM

Would you happen to know if they do the 20's and a 4"/50 in 1/72?  Also if you can PM the contact info for the 1/144 20's, need to get a set for mine.  They look alot better than the Noutilus versions and a lot less work.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:34 PM

Yeah, I'm really impressed with 3D stuff. The 1/350 3D ship crews are outstanding.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Thursday, March 23, 2017 3:22 PM

My Gato deck guns finally arrived from Shapeways and was I amazed at the incredible high level of detail these 3D Printed deck weapons have! The 3" gun detail is incredible as are the 20mm ones. I have to carefully cut off the shileds on two of the 20's since the Gato didn't have them. Double click on the pictures for a super closeup.

Everything is there, seats, sights, traversing and elevation mechanism, even the muzzle is hollowed out.

The 20s are simpler but still have lots of details!

I just may get another Trumpeter Gato , and order from Shapeways a 4 or 5" gun and a 40mm to make a late war version.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:17 AM

That would be fantastic if an I-400 came out too.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 11:17 AM

Oh boy I got a responce from Revell regaring the I-400 as well.....hopefully.....

 

Hi,
This is a good idea. I believe Tamiya has done an I-400 kit, but not sure what scale.
I’ll pass this along to Revell Germany who has made all the U-Boat kits.
Thanks for writing to us.
 
Regards,
Ed Sexton
Revell, Inc.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 10:48 AM

plasticjunkie

 

 
goldhammer
 
plasticjunkie

Well for what it's worth, I sent my idea to Revell and within 10 minutes I received  a response from Ed Sexton, Revell Inc. saying it sounds interesting and will be discussed at the next meeting.

It would be pretty cool if they decide to release one in 1/144. I know it's going to be way better than Trumpeter's.

 

 

 

 

If I may, here are a couple of add ons....  The 3 major fairwater versions, those being the original design, the mid war cut down and the late war cutdowns.  Also both versions of the aft end of the fairwater, rounded and the more pointed versions.

Would be nice if they could also do the Balao scope shears, since the hulls were pretty much identical in length and shape.

This could be done with a couple of extra sprues.

Would give the builder plenty of choices to build most any boat of the era, and would be a pretty good seller IMO.  I know I would have at least a couple.

 

 

 

Brilliant suggestion GH and I took the liberty to forward your idea as an additional thought. All we can do is hope.

 

I sent them the sugestion of the I-400 with Seirans (the name Seiran does not follow the english I before E rule I noticed LOL)

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:53 AM

goldhammer
 
plasticjunkie

Well for what it's worth, I sent my idea to Revell and within 10 minutes I received  a response from Ed Sexton, Revell Inc. saying it sounds interesting and will be discussed at the next meeting.

It would be pretty cool if they decide to release one in 1/144. I know it's going to be way better than Trumpeter's.

 

 

 

 

If I may, here are a couple of add ons....  The 3 major fairwater versions, those being the original design, the mid war cut down and the late war cutdowns.  Also both versions of the aft end of the fairwater, rounded and the more pointed versions.

Would be nice if they could also do the Balao scope shears, since the hulls were pretty much identical in length and shape.

This could be done with a couple of extra sprues.

Would give the builder plenty of choices to build most any boat of the era, and would be a pretty good seller IMO.  I know I would have at least a couple.

 

Brilliant suggestion GH and I took the liberty to forward your idea as an additional thought. All we can do is hope.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, March 22, 2017 9:06 AM

plasticjunkie

Well for what it's worth, I sent my idea to Revell and within 10 minutes I received  a response from Ed Sexton, Revell Inc. saying it sounds interesting and will be discussed at the next meeting.

It would be pretty cool if they decide to release one in 1/144. I know it's going to be way better than Trumpeter's.

 

 

If I may, here are a couple of add ons....  The 3 major fairwater versions, those being the original design, the mid war cut down and the late war cutdowns.  Also both versions of the aft end of the fairwater, rounded and the more pointed versions.

Would be nice if they could also do the Balao scope shears, since the hulls were pretty much identical in length and shape.

This could be done with a couple of extra sprues.

Would give the builder plenty of choices to build most any boat of the era, and would be a pretty good seller IMO.  I know I would have at least a couple.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 9:20 PM

I looked at a closeup on my IPad and is a lot clearer than on my desktop ,so figure that one out! Yes the stern one has a wheel and the other two look to be flush with the wood pattern on them and  no wheels on either one.

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:48 PM

It definitely looks like the one on the stern has a wheel. 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 8:37 PM

More research revealed some grab handles and smaller flood holes missing and were drilled using a very thin drill bit. I used thin copper wire bent to shape and CAd in place.

I found a couple of pictures with hatches open around the circled areas on the deck. I'm trying to determine if they were flush to the deck and if they had any exterior open/locking mechanism.

notice the same hatches open

http://navsource.org/archives/08/100/0821246.jpg

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:49 PM

modelcrazy

Maybe I should suggest the I-400 as well, with some 1/144 Seirans.

What did you use to suggest, email?

 

I went to their site and used the contact tab.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:41 PM

Maybe I should suggest the I-400 as well, with some 1/144 Seirans.

What did you use to suggest, email?

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 7:35 PM

Well for what it's worth, I sent my idea to Revell and within 10 minutes I received  a response from Ed Sexton, Revell Inc. saying it sounds interesting and will be discussed at the next meeting.

It would be pretty cool if they decide to release one in 1/144. I know it's going to be way better than Trumpeter's.

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:40 PM

Yeah.  One of our techs quit and gave the boss a 52" tool box roll cabinet for some of what he owed the boss.  Buying it for my modeling station.  Same length as the 1/72 gato.....looking at it, going "what in the world did I get into with that kit".  I'll probably burn out a couple of Dremels cutting the deck plating out for the Big Ed PE.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:18 PM

goldhammer

400 feet, would work out around 66-67 inches.   About 88 ft longer than the Gatos.

Would have to come by truck shipment in a crate, lol

 

Yeah that sounds better now that I'm close to a calculator. I was thinking the Gato was around 5.5' to begin with but it's the I-400 that would be 5.5' the Gato is 4.3'.

Still that's BIG

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:07 PM

400 feet, would work out around 66-67 inches.   About 88 ft longer than the Gatos.

Would have to come by truck shipment in a crate, lol

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:05 PM

modelcrazy
 
Bish
O ye, i can believe that. Has their ever been a 72nd I400, i am guessing not.

 

Oh boy that would be what, around 7ft long?

 

Really, that size.

I think a big shelf then Big Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 3:00 PM

Bish
O ye, i can believe that. Has their ever been a 72nd I400, i am guessing not.

Oh boy that would be what, around 7ft long?

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:52 PM

plasticjunkie

Steve

I will post some pictures later so you can see the updates.

Bish 

The Gato was way bigger than the German subs but the Japanese I400 was gargantuan.

Hey here's  a thought.. would be nice if ROG came out with a 1/144 Gato scaled down from the larger one. They did it with their U Boats so why not a Gato?

 

O ye, i can believe that. Has their ever been a 72nd I400, i am guessing not.

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:35 PM

A "just pre-war" Nautilus or Argonaut with their 6 inchers would be nice in 1/144 too.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 2:09 PM

I would love to see a 1/144 I-400.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 1:57 PM

Steve

I will post some pictures later so you can see the updates.

Bish 

The Gato was way bigger than the German subs but the Japanese I400 was gargantuan.

Hey here's  a thought.. would be nice if ROG came out with a 1/144 Gato scaled down from the larger one. They did it with their U Boats so why not a Gato?

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 21, 2017 10:39 AM

Yep, I've got the 1/144 Gato and it's a couple of inches longer than the Type 21 in the same scale.

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