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"Out of your comfort zone" GB '17

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Posted by Theuns on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 9:08 AM

It seems we have a miss comunication here ;-)

My reply to have fun was aimed at the poster asking if the end date was set, I was trying to tell him not to worry about it to much and just have fun with the GB.

I think your input about the wheels and clearbits is of value to us all , as we all are specifically not clued up on the subject matter we are building for this GB.

If we all share what we know I recon we all become better modlers, weather we build really great models or just for fun, it doesnt matter.

It would be a shame if you left this GB with a feeling of un hapyness, stay and educate us of things we might not know much about :-)

 

Theuns

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Posted by Seabe on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 10:24 AM

Rob Gronovius
I'm sorry to have crashed your group build. The title got my attention and then the Seabe's Abrams photos caught my eye. I saw some questions asked that I could answer and tried to give some pointers. My mistake, I'll leave now.

Hey Rob, I really appreciated your feedback and will alter my wheels with what means I have available. Clear is not on for me, but I'll try to do some replication - even if just SGB - which is the way I'm leaning. Yes, not 100% accurate, but being cast solid does make it hard to replicate!

As Theuns has said, he aimed his reply at my question regarding the end date, implying I should not worry about the dealine, have fun and rather finish the kit than think the dealine has passed and maybe have it stagnate. It was a written-word being interpreted other than intended thing. Complete misunderstanding, like he confirmed as well.

By all means, your comments are more than welcome! Like I said, I really appreciated it. It will help me to build something closer to what it should be.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, March 02, 2017 8:54 PM
I’m done with Igor. He was a fun build and went together well. I tried all different paints and couldn’t get the hands to be non-tacky. I ended up painting them with a base of acrylic but after a few days with enamel over the top of the acrylic, they were tacky again. I don’t get it. Oh well. Our local Hobby Town wants to display him in their case, but not after I take him to the IPMS meeting this month. The theme is Sci-Fi.

 

The light for the arc reactor and eyes are made with LED’s and the concrete pieces are Styrofoam. I’m not very good at  non water bases but I needed something of interest.
  
  

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, March 03, 2017 8:14 AM

Now that IS cool, I posted a pic on the front page.

Please educate me a bit about the "Igor III" , I am not farmiliar with that iron man .

It just occured to me we have no badge for this G B....any one have any ideas for one?

 

Theuns

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 03, 2017 8:20 AM
Sorry Iron Man 3 and that's the Mark 38 Igor armor. If you watch Iron Man 3 you can catch a glimpse of it for about 2 seconds during the last battle

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:02 AM

Aha, is it is Tony Stark's new armour then?

 

Theuns

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:07 AM

No it's his heavy lift armor.  He has more advanced models like the Mark 39 and on. That's about all I know about Iron Man and that was from the research into the Mark 38.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Friday, March 03, 2017 4:59 PM

lewbud

MC, looking forward to seeing paint on Igor.

Brandon, the FT-17 is looking good.

Eagle, the sub is looking good as well.  Don't recall any subs with hull red, usually they were gray and black.  

Theuns, that kit has been around forever, before Tamiya became known as a shake and bake.

 

 

Hey lewbud...sure wish I had seen your reply before shooting the Hull Red on there.  Embarrassed  I'm sure I will let down a lot of Navy folks here, but this an Out of Your Comfort Zone GB.  LOL!  And I am abviously out of mine.  Huh?  Thanks for the good advice thou.  I'll pay more attention next time.  Sorry.

Eagle90

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Friday, March 03, 2017 5:16 PM

Man, it looks like the only one out of their comfort zone is me!  Great work everyone!

Sorry for the delays.  Been crazy busy at work and have been laid up sick past couple of days.  I want to post the pic of what I've gotten done so far.  Not too far from being finished!  Wink  Lewbud corrected me on the hull color, but I didn't see his reply in time.  Don't want to retape everything, so might just let it slide this time.  That being said, I'd like to say I sure hope non of my brothers and sisters in arms from the Navy branch take offense to my novice sub building.  Embarrassed  I know I'm not doing the sub people any justice, but I mean no disrepect.  Yes.

So here is what I have so far.  Lots of seam work and with it being a sub...I'm not familiar with where there are and are not seams.  LOL!  Using the box art for a lot of my queries...I know, not a good idea.  Sorry.

I'm working on the finishing touches and then going to give it some weathering...again, hope I get close.  Thanks for looking.

Eagle90

P.S.  How in the heck did they keep the deck guns working?!  It is a sub!  I would think the sea water would just eat the weapons alive.  Huh?

 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, March 03, 2017 6:54 PM

Eagle, I wouldn't worry too much about the color. I found pastels do a good job with sub weathering. 

For the guns, they put a plug in the end of the barrel Wink. Actually I thought about the same thing and I have no idea.

ON THE BENCH

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1/72 Hasegawa GR.4 Tornado
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate, Akagi
1/72 Airfix A6M2b Zero type 0 Model 21, Akagi
1/72 Cyber Hobby D3A Val, Akagi
1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston

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Posted by Eagle90 on Friday, March 03, 2017 7:26 PM

modelcrazy

Eagle, I wouldn't worry too much about the color. I found pastels do a good job with sub weathering. 

For the guns, they put a plug in the end of the barrel Wink. Actually I thought about the same thing and I have no idea.

 

Thanks for the tip!  Gonna pull them out and give them a try on her.

O.K., I can see that for the muzzle, but what abou tthe breach?  Did they make them water tight or does it make a difference if the insides are wet?  LOL!  Obviously I don't know much about heavy weapons either.  Embarrassed

 

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Posted by Theuns on Friday, March 03, 2017 10:54 PM

I like the Sub, I will be interested to see the weathering, I have to do a sub myselff oneday...

 

Theuns

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Posted by Eagle90 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 9:36 AM

Theuns

I like the Sub, I will be interested to see the weathering, I have to do a sub myselff oneday...

 

Theuns

 

Thank you!  I have to be honest...when I picked this kit, I thought...hey this doesn't look to bad, pretty easy actually.  Yeah right.  I'm finding ships to be a challenge...and I'm loving it!  I actually have a couple of more subs in the stash and a hand full of regular ships..to include a Pirate ship!  Embarrassed.  I'm really looking forward to them now!

So here is what I did last night.  I'm speculating that the weathering on a sub would have been somewhat "minimal"?  After all, it's under water most of the time..right? So here is what I've got.

And yes....the second picture....(as soon as all the good ship builders stop laughing), I put the anchor in the wrong place.  Whistling.  And trust me, I'm laughing along with you all.  Stick out tongueFunny thing is, I kept looking at it as I was doing some weathering and putting the decals on and kept saying something didn't look right.....DUUUHHH!  O.K., commence the barrage of Air Force boy doing a ship jokes!  I actually want to hear them.  LOL!  So, I learned a long time ago, admit your mistakes, learn from them, and press on.  LOL!  It is pretty funny!  So I'm putting multiple coats of Micro Sol on the decals.  I'm seeing the original decals (from 1998) are pretty shiny!  Hopfully a coat of Testors dullcoat will help when all is said and done.  Huh?  Also going to add some Florys wash to bring out the deck a bit more and all the detail on the sub itself.  Maybe a light dry brushing with some Nato Black to help the detail pop out.

Thanks for checking it out...and having a good laugh with me.

Eagle90

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 04, 2017 10:25 AM

Eagle,

Subs will have more weathering than you might think even though they are always taking a bath.

Saltwater, sun, waves are all very corrosive. Boats and ships would return with their hulls chipped dented and rusted and the deck paint would be worn down to the wood.

I think you did a great job, especially on such an old kit. I would love to see you build some of your other ship kits. Ships are difficult and time consuming but oh so worth it once they are done.

By the way, I didn’t even notice the anchor was in the wrong place until you said something.

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1/72 Hasegawa GR.4 Tornado
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

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1/72 Airfix A6M2b Zero type 0 Model 21, Akagi
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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, March 04, 2017 3:53 PM

Eagle, 

You have to remember, these boats spent way more time on the surface than they did submerged.  Top speed surfaced was 20 knots, submerged 8-9 knots.  As to the hull red, just say that's how it came out of the graving dock, and hasn't been completely painted yet.  You did a great job sir. I like the weathering you've done so far.

Theuns,

I'm going to change my build as I don't have access to the part of my stash that has the Tyrrell.  I've never built an all out contest model, so I'd like to try that instead.  I've got a 1/72 Hasegawa F/A-18E that will be my attempt.  In addition to the Wolfpack Designs Wing Fold and Dropped Flaps kit, I have an Aires resin cockpit on the way.  I've never used resin on an aircraft before, nor have I done any sort of weathering as I usually build box stock and factory fresh.  Hoping to find some resin exhausts for cheaper than what's on evilbay right now.  So this will be my first time using pastels, washes, etc.

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 4:13 PM

[quote user="lewbud"]

Eagle, 

You have to remember, these boats spent way more time on the surface than they did submerged.  Top speed surfaced was 20 knots, submerged 8-9 knots.  As to the hull red, just say that's how it came out of the graving dock, and hasn't been completely painted yet.  You did a great job sir. I like the weathering you've done so far.

 

 

Thank you sir!  So they would have used the deck guns as much as the torpedoes?  Wow, these guys just keep getting more and more heroic. 

LOL!  Yeah, we'll say that for the Hull Red this time.  I'll do better next time.  Embarrassed

Well, took everyone's advice on the weathering and hope this looks good.  I think it came out pretty good.  I'm sure there are some inaccuracies, but I did have fun doing this.  I have a German WWII sub in the stash, but I'm thinking there will be another US WWII one in my future...I have about 4 model shows I'm planning on going to this year.  Whistling

So her she is!  I think I'm finished.  I did more weathering attempting to make it look like the wear and tear on the paint starting to show through to the wood on the deck, some rust..everywhere, some nicks, dents, and bumps, and I wasn't sure about the "antenna", but I put a little black on it to show up better.  Hope you all enjoy it.  I had a blast doing it! 

Thanks Theuns for hosting a great GB!  Out of Your Comfort Zone...Brilliant!

Bobby

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 4:16 PM

modelcrazy

Eagle,

Subs will have more weathering than you might think even though they are always taking a bath.

Saltwater, sun, waves are all very corrosive. Boats and ships would return with their hulls chipped dented and rusted and the deck paint would be worn down to the wood.

I think you did a great job, especially on such an old kit. I would love to see you build some of your other ship kits. Ships are difficult and time consuming but oh so worth it once they are done.

By the way, I didn’t even notice the anchor was in the wrong place until you said something.

 

Thank you sir!

LOL!  I made where I had the anchor a "scratch and dent" area.  I took your advice and tried to simulate the wood coming through a bit on the deck.  Added a bit more "rust" around her too.  This was a really fun build!  Thanks for the advice!  Much appreciated.

Bobby

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 04, 2017 4:20 PM
Oh yeah, that looks much better Yes. Great job.
On your next sub build you can try to drill out the limber holes if you’re feeling adventurous.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 4:30 PM

modelcrazy
Oh yeah, that looks much better Yes. Great job.
On your next sub build you can try to drill out the limber holes if you’re feeling adventurous.
 

Thank you sir!  Means a lot.

Timber holes?  I'm always up for adventurous....but...uh....what are Timber holes?  Embarrassed

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, March 04, 2017 4:37 PM

Limber holes. They are the holes that allow the water to enter and escape the outter hull. You can see the outline of them on the sides under the deckon your build.

Here is an example on a my 1/72 type IX U-boat

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Posted by Eagle90 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 4:59 PM

modelcrazy

Limber holes. They are the holes that allow the water to enter and escape the outter hull. You can see the outline of them on the sides under the deckon your build.

Here is an example on a my 1/72 type IX U-boat

 

Oh yeah!  That would add some serious detail!  You know I'll do that.  Thanks so much!

Bobby

 

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Posted by Theuns on Saturday, March 04, 2017 10:48 PM

Now that is one cool looking boat you built there, and like you said it's your first so it turned out very well indeed :-)

The thing I find so memecing about subs are that they can kill you and you didnt even knoe they were there! Just like here in Africa, we have many snakes and other creatures that can do the same, you have to be either crazy or tough to live here...havnt figured out wich of the two I am yet LOL

 

I will put you on the pix page, than for taking part :-)

 

Lewbud I will change your entry no worries

 

Theuns

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Posted by Eagle90 on Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:52 AM

Theuns

Now that is one cool looking boat you built there, and like you said it's your first so it turned out very well indeed :-)

The thing I find so memecing about subs are that they can kill you and you didnt even knoe they were there! Just like here in Africa, we have many snakes and other creatures that can do the same, you have to be either crazy or tough to live here...havnt figured out wich of the two I am yet LOL

 

I will put you on the pix page, than for taking part :-)

 

Lewbud I will change your entry no worries

 

Theuns

 

Thank you sir! 

I'd say your tough!  LOL!  The only time I stepped foot in Africa was on a stop over to Saudi, when we stopped in Egypt.  Cairo airport looked rough enough!  LOL!

Thanks for hosting a great GB!  Got me wanting to do more ships, and I learned a lot along the way!

Bobby

 

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Posted by Theuns on Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:15 AM

" Got me wanting to do more ships, and I learned a lot along the way!"

 

I would call this GB a success in that regard the :-)

 

Theuns

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Posted by Eagle90 on Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:49 PM

Theuns

" Got me wanting to do more ships, and I learned a lot along the way!"

 

I would call this GB a success in that regard the :-)

 

Theuns

 

Absolutely.  A smashing success I'd say!  Thank you!

Bobby

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, March 05, 2017 9:35 PM

Eagle90

 

 
Theuns

" Got me wanting to do more ships, and I learned a lot along the way!"

 

I would call this GB a success in that regard the :-)

 

Theuns

 

 

 

Absolutely.  A smashing success I'd say!  Thank you!

Bobby

 

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, March 06, 2017 8:06 AM

modelcrazy

 

 
Eagle90

 

 
Theuns

" Got me wanting to do more ships, and I learned a lot along the way!"

 

I would call this GB a success in that regard the :-)

 

Theuns

 

 

 

Absolutely.  A smashing success I'd say!  Thank you!

Bobby

 

 

 

 

 

Ohhhhh....cookies!

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, March 06, 2017 9:31 AM

ON THE BENCH

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1/72 Hasegawa GR.4 Tornado
1/350 Aoshima IJN Takao

In Que

1/72 Hasegawa B5N2 Kate, Akagi
1/72 Airfix A6M2b Zero type 0 Model 21, Akagi
1/72 Cyber Hobby D3A Val, Akagi
1/350 Dragon USS The Sulivans built as USS Johnston

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, March 06, 2017 7:09 PM

modelcrazy

 

Whaaaa?!?!?!?!  No cookies?  Crying

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Posted by BrandonD on Wednesday, March 15, 2017 3:26 PM

Ok, it's finished, and it's definitely out of my comfort zone. Once again, this is the 1/35 Meng Renault FT-17 with riveted turret. My first armor model in about 17 years.

Hope you all like it. It's been a fun diversion from wingy things.

I guess the second pic for the front works for me.

-BD-

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