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The 2017/ 2018 Too Little Too Late Group Build

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Posted by crown r n7 on Monday, July 10, 2017 7:21 PM

That's one fine job on that 262! Rocker

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, July 10, 2017 7:52 PM

Rocker, congrats on the 262.  That variety of schemes on the top surfaces contrasted  with the black undersides does make for an interesting visual.  Yes

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Rochester, New York USA
Posted by rocker286 on Monday, July 10, 2017 9:39 PM

Thanks guys! To be honest, the tricky paint job is what kept me from building this kit for so long. I've probably had it in my stash for about seven years now, so thanks for the kind words!  Andy, I didn't realize you had posted photos of your 262 as well until I had a chance to look back on all the posts I missed while I was on vacation. You did an awesome job on yours! I dig the paint job!  Nick and Johnny Your builds look like they're coming along nicely!

I took a photo of the underside of my 262 tonight - sorry the lighting isn't the greatest but you get the idea! As far as the decals go, the worst silvering occured with the crosses on the underside of the wings. I had to score them with a hobby knife and flow some decal set solution into the holes I created to get the slivering to go away.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, July 12, 2017 11:30 PM

Quick update, primer problem sorted and have applied base color RLM 76:

Another hiccup with the Florys wash stage.  Since much of the engraved detail is so fine, I thought it would be best to apply the wash after only one layer of future, and then add a second as a prep for the decals.  Of course, brushing on the future rejuvenated much of the wash product, resulting in a patchy look in the engraved areas.

Anyhow, will let this dry for a bit, setting sights on Friday for the decals. 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by crown r n7 on Friday, July 14, 2017 2:14 PM

that 109 is moving along nicely.  here are the lastest pics on the do-335 the camo unmasking and touch up done.

 

 

 Nick.

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Posted by rooster513 on Friday, July 14, 2017 2:15 PM

jgeratic

Quick update, primer problem sorted and have applied base color RLM 76:

Another hiccup with the Florys wash stage.  Since much of the engraved detail is so fine, I thought it would be best to apply the wash after only one layer of future, and then add a second as a prep for the decals.  Of course, brushing on the future rejuvenated much of the wash product, resulting in a patchy look in the engraved areas.

Anyhow, will let this dry for a bit, setting sights on Friday for the decals. 

regards,

Jack

 

that looks really good Jack! I think tha patchy look works...makes it more natural/random weathering.

-Andy

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Posted by Bish on Friday, July 14, 2017 2:21 PM

Jack, that looking good despite the wash coming away.

But i am curious. How come your ading your wash before decals, and why brushing on the future.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, July 15, 2017 12:04 PM

Thank you Nick, your's too  is looking great.


Thank you Andy and Bish.


Yeah, the rejuventated wash also got smeared into  flat surfaces, so sort of good mistake.  I find a single coat of future is not gloss enough to accept decals, and have always brushed it on because it self levels on it's own.  I don't know if I've ever tried airbrushing it on, but it would of been beneficial for the second coat to avoid problems.  I have also seen it mentioned in the forums, and quite recent too, that spraying on future results in a grainy or pebbled look.

Reason for applying wash before decals was to avoid problems of losing fine  detail to the point where it could not hold a wash.   Some areas I already had to rescribe, and even used fine sandpaper instead of a damp cloth when cleaning up the wash.


regards,
Jack

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, July 16, 2017 5:16 AM

Thanks for that Jack. I have never had that issue airbrushing future, though i have switched to Alclad aqua but that was for other reasons.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by blackdog62 on Monday, July 17, 2017 5:17 PM

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Posted by blackdog62 on Monday, July 17, 2017 6:04 PM

Tempest looking nice like the late war color scheme and the tank design.

Those air craft look the part. I don't know if you know or not but Kurt tank himself was flying a unarmed 152 to a bord meeting and almost got jumped by 2 

P51s hit his booster and flat out left them behind. I may have mentioned it before love the story and the aircraft.

There are some truly awsom builds in this group. I'll try Flickr again my pics are loaded there now and found some how to vids on youtube. So hopefully tomorrow I can put them up. 

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 3:26 PM

All,

There has been some amazing work on here.  I have been in the process of moving since May, but should be back up and running in a few more weeks.  I have seen the issues with PB and will be dumping them as well, so that will be fun.

 

Keep up the great stuff and I'll be back soon.  The 162 is mostly complete, the wood decals take some time!

<Matt

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 3:28 PM

Good to see you back matt, looking forward to that 162.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 2:14 PM

Rocker: Man that build turned out really good. I always enjoy seeing someone pull off those late war camo themes..........especially when they're like this one. I've gotta say .....that's one helluva good looking 262.

Jack: I'm with Andy and Bish on the wash. I like the effect and from what I see in the pictures, it's going to work out just fine. Nice and smooth paint finish you've got yourself there.

Nick: I've seen splinter camo work done before but never with lines as crisp as what I see here. Rockin' tha house with this one buddy.

blackdog: Seems like most everybody is dealing with the PB blues these days. Hope you get it all sorted out.

Matt: Hope the move is going smoothly and looking forward to seeing that 162 progress.

                   

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, July 19, 2017 7:16 PM

Thanks Mustang, yeah the wash problem is no deal breaker.

Most of the decals are on now, am actually using four sources if you include the home made ones.  All balkenkreuz are from the H-MODELS set, and though they include a few stencils too, I opted for the ones from FineMolds as they are a lot crisper.  H-M has their swastikas printed in halves plus they look kind of beefy, so went with a pair from Aeromaster AN72184 assorted set.

The inset photo show the home made decal for the circular access cover on the nose.  A few other areas also need decals made to replace/enhance details and will point those out next update.

Above is the JG 3 emblem, and you can see a couple problems with H-Models sample, the wing section is filled in and they all face one way.  So on the right are the new ones I've made printed on white decal paper.  Plan is to use both decals, and lay my home made ones on top, stay tuned ...

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, July 22, 2017 8:36 AM

Started getting some decals on the 152. Tried to use the decal theater bands. Gave up. Taped up ready to paint

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:41 AM

She isloking real nice Jack. Interesting comments about those decals, i got a set of those a few weeks back for my G-10. I don't get why the did the swastika's like that, you can still see what they are. There's no unit markings on my set, so i will probably just use the balkenkreuz and numbers and use the FM ones for the rest. 

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, July 22, 2017 9:41 AM

Nice looking 152 Johnny.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, July 23, 2017 1:02 AM

Johnny, looking good and just like you, I too will have to forgo a decal and replace with masking and airbrush.

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Thank you Bish.   About the swastikas, yeah it would actually be beneficial to have it split diagonaly if they really wanted to do that to them.  Then the cut edge could be used for precise lineup (either vertical or horizontal) relative to the tail/rudder details.

Anyhow, as alluded to when commenting on Johnny's fine progress, I could not convince the spiral decal to lie properly on the prop nose.  So now I have to repaint the nose white, mask and spray black.   


regrds,
Jack

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  • From: Corpus Christi, Tx
Posted by mustang1989 on Sunday, July 23, 2017 8:04 AM

Beeeautiful job on the unit decals Jack. I wished alot of kit manufacturers would go the extra mile and get it right sometimes. Especially in this day and age where all the manufacturers are catering to the same demographic that they were 30-40 years ago!! Note to manufacturers, "We've all grown up guys.........and with it........our talents/ abilities/ and expecations have too!". lol

Johnny: Hang in there buddy! We've all had a decal or two go south on us and I've never had ANY luck with applying ANY theater band decals. I always end up masking and airbrushing those. As a matter of fact I don't even attempt the decals bands any more. I just start mixing up some paint. Looking stellar so far. Yes

                   

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, July 24, 2017 10:20 AM

Jack and Johnny, those are a couple of nice looking builds! Looks like you are both in the home stretch!

-Andy

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Posted by silentbob33 on Monday, July 24, 2017 10:21 AM
Getting caught up after cub scout camp and lots of good stuff going on here! Like Joe, I don't do theater band decals unless I have to. They never sit right, so I'll always fire up the airbrush for them.

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by mustang1989 on Monday, July 24, 2017 2:43 PM

silentbob33
Getting caught up after cub scout camp and lots of good stuff going on here! Like Joe, I don't do theater band decals unless I have to. They never sit right, so I'll always fire up the airbrush for them.
 

Glad you're back and am looking forward to the progress on that 335 of yours. Yes

                   

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 10:15 AM

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Just a test to see if I have this Flickr posting thing understood, and to show some of the progress on the wing.

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:18 AM

Jack thanks for that bit on the decals. It really pays to do research and shows how much us modelers will do to make a kit realistic. 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:26 AM

Tempest looking really nice. Even though I do a lot of research on RLM colors it always surprise me how bright some of there colors are. I guess im just so use to seeing the black and white photos.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:10 PM

mustang1989

 

 
silentbob33
Getting caught up after cub scout camp and lots of good stuff going on here! Like Joe, I don't do theater band decals unless I have to. They never sit right, so I'll always fire up the airbrush for them.
 

 

 

Glad you're back and am looking forward to the progress on that 335 of yours. Yes

 

 

I'll get started on it as soon as I get this X-Wing wrestled together

On my bench: Academy 1/35 UH-60L Black Hawk

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Posted by mustang1989 on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:13 PM

blkhwkmatt

That...................looks cool!!!! Nice decaling Matt!!

                   

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 4:18 PM

Didnt mean to post it twice, I'll get the hang of Flickr soon enough though. 

 

Thanks for the comments.  The hardest part is that the wing in 1/48th has no panel lines, so I have had to draw out and trace the panels onto the decal sheet.  Very time consuming to say the least.  I have a little overlap with the decals, but that serves to show where the builders would have joined the different wood panels. 

Hardest part so far has been figuring out how to decal the nose without wrinkles and what not.  Thats about all I have left to do really, is the nose and some small bits.

Thanks for looking,
<Matt

Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur!!! - Anything said in Latin sounds profound!

 

 

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Posted by blackdog62 on Thursday, July 27, 2017 5:19 PM

 Ta-152 by Jerry Richards, on Flickr

ok trying flicker for the first time. ok it worked this is the update on my ta-152 basik shot of the pit. i use the decals for the dash dew to i cant seem to paint them well. the harness is from the kit and is photo etch. the waist pads semm to be rather large for this scale.

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