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The 2017/ 2018 Too Little Too Late Group Build

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:35 AM

PJ - paint and canopy lines look excellent!  Hope that the tamiya tape will work as well for me in 1/48th scale.  I'm watching your build with interest as I have the same kit in my stash as well.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 04, 2017 6:07 AM

PJ, what did you use for the yellow wire in your pit.

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Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, March 04, 2017 6:47 AM

Ernie. That is looking to become your usual masterpiece.

 

 

Haven't got any bench time since I'm 1200 miles away from home in beautiful Florida. I really need to move down here.

 

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:48 AM

Thanks Matt

The kit has good molded details and can be improved with added scratch work. The resin items I used was an over kill IMO but I got them on sale for just about peanuts so i couldn't pass them up. The kit's molded engine has a good base for adding some wiring to busy it up a bit, just check reference pictures.

The tape I used is vinyl and it sticks very well and can be bent around curves somewhat.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:55 AM

Bish

I have a box full of discarded wires from appliance cords and electronic components that I remove before tossing them in the garbage. The particular wires you are asking came off an old extension cord I had which I twisted a bit and painted yellow as per the pictures I saw. They looked about the correct size so I used them. Hope this helps.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, March 04, 2017 8:57 AM

Well thanks TJ!

Hey where in Florida are you vacationing at?

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 04, 2017 9:03 AM

plasticjunkie

Bish

I have a box full of discarded wires from appliance cords and electronic components that I remove before tossing them in the garbage. The particular wires you are asking came off an old extension cord I had which I twisted a bit and painted yellow as per the pictures I saw. They looked about the correct size so I used them. Hope this helps.

 

Cheers, thats what i thought. I have been looking everywhere, even cut up a couple of old cables, but all to thick. I have ordered some 24AWG but i think that might be to big as well. Might have to use some of my finer wire and paint it.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, March 04, 2017 10:15 AM

Bish

 

 
plasticjunkie

Bish

I have a box full of discarded wires from appliance cords and electronic components that I remove before tossing them in the garbage. The particular wires you are asking came off an old extension cord I had which I twisted a bit and painted yellow as per the pictures I saw. They looked about the correct size so I used them. Hope this helps.

 

 

 

Cheers, thats what i thought. I have been looking everywhere, even cut up a couple of old cables, but all to thick. I have ordered some 24AWG but i think that might be to big as well. Might have to use some of my finer wire and paint it.

 

yes some stuff is way too thick. Your best source is an old computer. They have tons of thin wiring.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 04, 2017 10:25 AM

Thats a good point. I think we have some scap ones in the recycling bin at work, might have to have a lok in there. managed to find some 30 gauge yellow artistic wire, so that should work for this one. Still got to do the wheel wells on both kits before i can close up anyway.

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Posted by mawright20 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 12:37 PM

Hey Gang! Name's Mike. New to subscription and looking forward to getting into this hobby more. My kids have gotten interested in doing these together as a "dad activity". Will be starting a Revell Me-410 kit here shortly. I'm not the most "professional" of builders, but my results have been improving over the last couple years. As I'm currently working in Southwest Asia/Middle East, my plan is to improvise with gear I have at hand.

Look forward to learnign more tips from everyone in the group

Cheers!

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Posted by silentbob33 on Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:30 PM
Great job on the paint and canopy PJ I built the old 1/32 Revell Fw-190 and one of the markings for a plane in Hungary and the lower bit of the landing bay door was removed on that too. I'd take a picture of it, but it didn't fair too well after crashing off my display shelf. Maybe someday I'll get around to putting it back together.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Saturday, March 04, 2017 2:40 PM

Thanks bob. Hey get thst banged up 190 squared away and post some pictures.

Bish have you considered using stretched sprue for wiring and plumbing? I get excellent results using this method too.

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 04, 2017 3:42 PM

plasticjunkie

Thanks bob. Hey get thst banged up 190 squared away and post some pictures.

Bish have you considered using stretched sprue for wiring and plumbing? I get excellent results using this method too.

 

I have some fine styrene rob i could use for the same purpose. I have a few days until its ready to close up so i can try out a few things.

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Posted by blkhwkmatt on Sunday, March 05, 2017 2:27 AM

Update time,

This is should bring you up to where I am at now with the project.  The Tamiya He-162 is a really nice kit, not too complicated and fits together as expected.  Since this is going to be a natural metal and wood grain finish I am taking extra care to get the seams all cleaned up, I also added rivots to the fuselage to add detail.

Here is the cockpit, before I added the kit decal for the IP.

and after..

Engine (before and after detailing a bit)

Fuselage closed up, getting ready for primer:

I also have the canopy in place for painting, wings glued together and primed but dont have any pictures of that yet.

 

Here is how I am going to try and replicate the wooden areas of this bird:

I also have the special set for the ZM 1/32 Ho-229 that is in my stash.  I will not be building that one any time soon, thats for sure.

 

Thanks for looking,

<Matt

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 05, 2017 4:43 AM

Looking very nice there Matt. Really like the look of the engine.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:16 AM

Great looking Salamander Matt. Tamiya kits are very well made and have exceptional fit.

Adding some wiring to the engine greatly improves detail.Beer   

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Sunday, March 05, 2017 10:32 AM

Nicely detailed engine!

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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, March 05, 2017 8:09 PM
To echo everyone else, the wiring and detailing makes the engine really stand out.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 7:27 PM

not much to report but got the cannon bays done.

I 've been looking for reference pictures for this area but nothing so far. I added a couple of wires  and a light oil wash to grime things up.

 

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Posted by mustang1989 on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 8:48 PM

jgeratic

Have found something I'd be interested in building, the Bf 109 G-6/AS, but does it qualify for the GB time frame?

http://falkeeins.blogspot.ca/2016/12/hellblau-uber-alles-overall-rlm-76-bf.html

regards,

Jack

 

 

Sorry for the long absence fellas. This last weekend was me and my wife's anniversary celebration. I'm back in the saddle again and will get caught up soon. 

To start with, I think May of 1944 can be covered in here Jack. Bring it buddy.

                   

 

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Posted by rooster513 on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 6:42 AM

mustang1989

 

Sorry for the long absence fellas. This last weekend was me and my wife's anniversary celebration. I'm back in the saddle again and will get caught up soon. 

 

PJ - Those gun bays look really good!

Joe - no worries on the absence. You had far more important things going on. How many years has it been?

-Andy

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:41 AM

mustang, thanks for the green light.

Not very familiar with late war 109's, but the more I've been reading up on the G-6AS, the more one realizes how it echoes the theme of this group build.

A number of design changes introduced in an attempt to keep the 109 on equal footing with it's adversaries;

- taller tail to offset the more powerul engine

- Erla Haube canopy

- return to squared off wheel well to accept outer gear door (but were never fitted)

- better streamlined cowl, replacing the ungainly bulges in front of the cockpit

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Have this decal sheet on order;

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 11:44 AM

jgeratic

mustang, thanks for the green light.

Not very familiar with late war 109's, but the more I've been reading up on the G-6AS, the more one realizes how it echoes the theme of this group build.

A number of design changes introduced in an attempt to keep the 109 on equal footing with it's adversaries;

- taller tail to offset the more powerul engine

- Erla Haube canopy

- return to squared off wheel well to accept outer gear door (but were never fitted)

- better streamlined cowl, replacing the ungainly bulges in front of the cockpit

----------------------

Have this decal sheet on order;

regards,

Jack

 

Will definatly be watching this as have been thinking of doing one of these myself. What kit are you useing.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 1:16 PM

Bish

 

Will definatly be watching this as have been thinking of doing one of these myself. What kit are you useing.

 

hello Bish, it will be Finemold's 109G-10.

I'm going with 72nd scale,  and like my last 109 build, I'll be challenging myself yet again by doing some backdating.  The bonus for me is the kit includes a pilot figure, as I prefer doing an inflight depiction.

My fixit list so far:

- short tail wheel and proper rudder and elevator sections, all of which are included as optional parts in the box

- remove two small bulges on the underside of cowl

- shallow chin intake -> will need to cut this part down, also not sure of the shape

- antennas  -> delete the underwing one, and short one on top needs to be moved aft a bit

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Now AZmodel does a trio of these kits, and would be the easier route.   They may even have just as good detail, but have read there is a problem closing the fuselage halves together.  Apparently the cockpit floor is too wide and needs to be shaved down about 0.5mm all four sides.

see here: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235010494-az-model-109-g-6as-fit-problems/

 

regards,

Jack

 

 

 

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 2:16 PM

Be interesting to see how that comes up.I have been looking at those AZ kits, they have a big selection of 109's, but was not sure how they build and woundered if you might have been useing one of theirs.

I'll check out that link as well. I take it the FM kit doesn't have the 110 cowling.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 2:40 PM

Nope, no 110 cowl. 

As far as I can tell, this asymmetrical shape was characteristic of Erla built machies, introduced with the G-10?

As far as full kits go, only Revell's recent 109 G-10 in 1/32 has this type - the first and only in any scale.   In 1/72, Loon Models did a resin conversion;

http://modelingmadness.com/scott/detailsets/loon/lo72207.htm

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 2:48 PM

The AZ 109's are very nice with finely molded details but they require a bit of patience during the build process.  The end result however is well worth the effort put in to it!  Same with the FM kits.  I'll be following this one for sure!

Chad

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:48 PM

jgeratic

Nope, no 110 cowl. 

As far as I can tell, this asymmetrical shape was characteristic of Erla built machies, introduced with the G-10?

As far as full kits go, only Revell's recent 109 G-10 in 1/32 has this type - the first and only in any scale.   In 1/72, Loon Models did a resin conversion;

http://modelingmadness.com/scott/detailsets/loon/lo72207.htm

regards,

Jack

 

Ye, i saw the Revell 32nd kit last week at our model club, done in a really nice 81/82 scheme with NMF lower wings I saw that and knew i wanted to do one in 72nd so been looking at the Revell 72nd and Loon conversion. Given the amount of 109's AZ has, i was surprised to see none hav ethe 110 cowling. But i like those all over 76 109's as well and H-Model has a nice selection including some standard G-6's.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 3:49 PM

Mopar Madness

The AZ 109's are very nice with finely molded details but they require a bit of patience during the build process.  The end result however is well worth the effort put in to it!  Same with the FM kits.  I'll be following this one for sure!

 

Cheers for that info MM. I might just have to get at least one and try it for myself.

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 4:05 PM

MM, that's good to know about the 109 AZ kits - just might add one to the stash. 

As far as Revell's G-10 in 72nd is concerned, I've read a few things are off on that one:

- landing gear stance is a bit wide

- prop too small, spinner too big

regards,

Jack

 

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