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The 2017/ 2018 Too Little Too Late Group Build

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Posted by simpilot34 on Saturday, December 09, 2017 3:42 AM

Sweeet, looking forward to seeing the spiral and finished product!!

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 09, 2017 12:47 AM

Nick, sim, thanks guys.

Got the spinner painted, i do like those spiral masks. Its all wrapped up now, going to get some pics tomorrow.

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Posted by simpilot34 on Friday, December 08, 2017 7:12 PM

Bish that looks fantastic!!!Toast

Cheers, Lt. Cmdr. Richie "To be prepared for war, is one of the most effectual means of preserving the peace."-George Washington
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Posted by crown r n7 on Wednesday, December 06, 2017 5:17 PM

Nice late war camo Bish and weathering .

Nick.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 04, 2017 1:34 PM

Thanks Steve. The kit instructions say to put the bomb racks on the other marking option. But everything i hav read said Rudel carried bomb racks, and i added them to the 72nd kit so thought i should add them to this one.

Ye, all the decals are from the box, and no, can't see the carrier film. I tend to use plenty of micro set and sol on my decals and that does the trick.

I applied the Flory wash all over. I tend to apply it to the front and then streak it backwards. Some of it was left on over night. On a gloss finish,m the trick is trying to to remove to much. Just start out by applying a little and and don't leave it to long. You can always add more.

And be sure to check the whole model over for any missed dark patches where it may have pooled. I have missed this on a couple of builds and only noticed after a flat coat.

Should have it wrapped up in a couple of days.

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Posted by smeosky on Monday, December 04, 2017 10:55 AM

Bish, wow! Your rocking and rolling on this! The weathering turned out great with the camo scheme! Also love the addition of the bombs and racks. Nice little twist on this subject matter. Few questions. Did you use the box decals? And can you notice any of the transfer film on the white crosses on the wing tops? From the photos you can't see them at all. Im always worried the film on such large spaces will be seen. Last, did you apply the flory wash to the whole model or use a pin wash strategy. I plan on using it too and am worried it will dirty up the model too much and be too difficult to take off.

Looking great so far, cant wait to see the final prodcut. Good luck with the spinner!

Steve 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 04, 2017 2:25 AM

Thanks Tony.

And will be interesting to see how that HB kit builds, especially as your doing the Dragon one as well.

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, December 03, 2017 8:19 PM

I'd like to join in too please. Since I'm building a Dragon 1/72 He 162 for the Modern GB, I'll do the Hobby Boss one here.

Cheers

Tony

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Posted by taxtp on Sunday, December 03, 2017 5:16 PM
I'd be very happy with that finish on one of my aircraft Bish, looks terrific. There's a slight delay with my 109 as I mask and spray the fin flash...tedious. Cheers Tony

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 03, 2017 4:03 PM

Thanks Bob. Its my first mottle scheme in this scale, benifiets of doing it in a smaller scale first i guess.

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Posted by silentbob33 on Sunday, December 03, 2017 3:49 PM
Wow Bish, I'm not sure how that paint job slipped by me but it's very well done. I particularly like the mottling at the tail.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 03, 2017 12:12 PM

Almost at the finishing post with the 190. Next up, my favorite bit. Decals. Though i did have a bit of an isue. One of the upper wing crosses and both of the underwing broke up when being applied. I managed to get them on but with some cracks in them which i painted in.

Also, if you compare the 72nd version with this, you may notice a difference in the arrows on the fuselage. The Hase ones are to big. I did consider trimming but the angles would be all wrong. Ther eis a set of 32nd AM decals, but i didn't fancy paying £14 for 2 decals, so i went with what i have.

And then for some weathering and finishing touches. I seem to have drifted into light weathering in the larger scale, keeping more varied approaches for 72nd dio's. So, some exhaust staining and an overall Flory wash to leave a slightly grimy streaked effect. And all the final touches were added.

The sharp eyed amongst you may have noticed the absence of a spinner. The spiral decal completly broke up. So i have ordered a set of Eduard masks from Hannants. I've already painted the spinner white, so when they arrive, which should be by Tues, i just have to mask, paint, flat coat and fit it. In the meantime i will dirty up the wheels a bit and get it secured to the base.

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 02, 2017 2:14 PM

The instructions i have are the same. Unfortunatly, i don't have the pics as i lost most of mine a couple of years back. If i remember right, i glued the PE along the top edge at an angle along the fuselage wall. I have a piulot figure in mine so can't see inside it.

I do have the NF version, and on that i will most likely cut 2 pieces of styene with the tops cut at an angle and glue the PE on top of those.

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Saturday, December 02, 2017 1:19 PM

Bish

AA, thats a nice little kit. I built that a few years ago and added wing glove to give the look of a proper swing wing. Look forward to seeing yours.

 

Say Bish, since you built this kit a while back, perhaps you have some insight into a problem I’ve encountered.  In building the cockpit, the instructions show something quite a bit different than the actual model.  If you’ll notice in the first two attached photos, the photo-etched metal instrument panels (MA2 and MA3) are supposed to be attached on two low bulkheads on either side of the pilot’s seat, both which protrude from the outerbulkhead and have an angled top.  However, if you look at the actual molded parts (third photo) you’ll see those bulkheads don’t exist!  Instead there is a vertical bulkhead with cutouts in it, which doesn’t protrude from the outer bulkhead at all, offering no place to attach those panels.  Did you encounter the same problem in the kit you built, and if so, how did you remedy it?

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:22 AM

smeosky, thanks for the advice. Its somthing i will keep working on.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:21 AM

taxtp
That's a really interesting scheme Bish, and well executed. I like how the soft demarcation is so consistent despite the different patterns. Cheers Tony
 

Thanks Tony. I did it all free hand and i think i am finally getting the hang of useing the airbrush for fine lines.

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:20 AM

blackdog62

hi bish. that looks like it took some real detailing to get right. I like the contrast on the upper surface. I have bit of a time getting contrast between those darker RLM colors..

 

Thanks BD. I do struggle with RLM 70/71, but this green and black scheme is not to bad, just got to try and not lose it under the weathering. But i am going to keep that light.

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Posted by smeosky on Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:05 AM

Bish

Thanks smeosky and thanks for the heads up. Nice work on yours, i like those open cowl flaps, wich i had gone with that option now. I used an HGW decal for the wing flaps on a 109 a few year back, that was a bit of a waste of time as well.

I like the results you got with the pre shading, i still can't get the hang of that. I tried black baseing the underside of mine and just lost it all.

 

 

Thanks Bish! I tried getting the pre shading even more finite within the smaller riveted panels the other night. You'd think it was airbrushed during an earthquake. Looked horrible! Nice thing about that is another layer of the base color blends everything in. I think a low pressure on the AB along with using a slightly darker color or even a diluted mix of tamiya smoke and ample lighting will allow you to gradually layer it on. Keep the ab farther away too, that gives you more slop.  Oh, and I too was laboring over which cowl flaps position to do. I can dig both, when they're in it looks more sleak! I think I chose this only because I've seen more parked examples with them open.

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Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 5:54 PM
That's a really interesting scheme Bish, and well executed. I like how the soft demarcation is so consistent despite the different patterns. Cheers Tony

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:26 PM

hi bish. that looks like it took some real detailing to get right. I like the contrast on the upper surface. I have bit of a time getting contrast between those darker RLM colors..

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:19 PM

mopar. really nice looking build I have never seen that version of the 262 before.

I really like the blue with the panel and rivet detail!. and the detail on top is just as nice.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:15 PM

theuns.  I agree that pit is fantastic work.

I just painted my 109b and I'm lucky it's buttoned up. dashes are something I can't pull off. I just consider each 1 practice

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 10:20 AM

Thanks Nick. The paints are all xtracolour straight out of the tin.

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Posted by crown r n7 on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 9:59 AM

Theuns looking! And Bish l like that late  camo did you mix the lighter gray yourself?  I have been busy with other stuff sorry for late response.

Nick.

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, November 29, 2017 1:56 AM

Thanks smeosky and thanks for the heads up. Nice work on yours, i like those open cowl flaps, wich i had gone with that option now. I used an HGW decal for the wing flaps on a 109 a few year back, that was a bit of a waste of time as well.

I like the results you got with the pre shading, i still can't get the hang of that. I tried black baseing the underside of mine and just lost it all.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

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Posted by smeosky on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 11:03 AM

Dang Bish, your a machine! Awesome paintwork. You've officially passed me up :)  I told you that wing fit would be a bear. The tiny rectangular panels right next to the flaps on the top surface was a rescribing nightmare for me since I sanded over the details. I've just applied these HGW positive rivets and layed the first coat of green ish RLM 76 to the underside. Still bringing out some of the darker transitions between panels. I'll be starting on the top surfaces soon.

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The positive rivets seem like a waste of time. They appear way too subtle and will likely get lost in the first coat of paint.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 27, 2017 2:17 PM

Good to see you back BD.

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Posted by blackdog62 on Monday, November 27, 2017 2:00 PM

wow all the projects are looking so nice.

I have bin away from the hobby for a bit but should be posting again in the next few days. new jobs and honeydew list for the holidays. got a keep the little lady (boss)happy.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, November 27, 2017 10:00 AM

Thanks Andy, it is a bit different.

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Posted by rooster513 on Monday, November 27, 2017 8:55 AM

Mopar - That 262 came out really nice! I've got you added to the main page. Thanks for the great addition to the GB!

Bish - Awesome work on that camo! That's a very unique schemeYes

Theuns - Nice work tackling those seams.

Armor - Would be great to have you join! Joe is taking care of the roster so he'll have to add you when he gets a chance.

-Andy

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