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  • Member since
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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 1, 2018 11:07 AM

Johnny, I really like your Mosquito.

The camo pattern has lots of interest and good contrast. It looks like your weathering on the belly is spot on. Not too much, not too little.

And you too are right on time! Smile

-Greg

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, April 1, 2018 1:29 PM
Thanks Greg

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:33 PM

Eric: Cross my fingers you're crossing the finish line soon.

Steve & TJ: Great job there on your builds!

 

I was hoping I'd finish this one up in time but well, as usual there's something... Bang Head

The prop spinner and one of the landing gear doors vanished from the box after painting. I've searched everywhere and no friggin' idea where they've gotten to. Angry

Anyway here's where I am. I put the final matte coat on what I have and then painted the exhaust stains on yesterday. Guess I'm stuck now till hopefully the missing parts show up...

Anyway, happy anniversay to the RAF, happy Easter to everyone and cross my fingers I'll come limping across the finish line in the next couple weeks. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:38 PM

That looks good G, really like those markings. I just hate that when parts go missing. Had that on my current build but was fortuantly able to source some from anotehr kit.

Look forward to seeing that done when your able.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:11 PM

Sorry if I’m a little past deadline, but I’ve been having multiple Internet connectivity issues all night tonight!  So, I didn’t get ALL the crewmen I wasworking on done, but here’s enough for a final reveal:

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:13 PM

You don't have to rush it AA, there is no deadline once you have started the build. You can finish it off or i can use one of those pics, up to you.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:35 PM
Oh, okay, thanks Bish! I should have all the figures done later this week, so I’ll post a more final view then.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:39 PM

Thats fine. I will officially close the GB tomorrow morning, but anyone is more than welcome to keep posting their builds however long it takes.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:46 PM

AA, that is looking really lively with the figures, so hope you have time to add the final touches to the scene.

Cliff, I really like what I'm seeing with that update, hope you can continue her to the finish line.

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Typical me, not making the due date, but already knew that even before starting as I always have trouble joining in right at the start.  Anyhow, last official update, then it's on to bulding on borrowed time ...

Once the fuslage halves were together, work was needed on both top and bottom seams.  A length of sprue was added on top to represent the detail of the uppermost dorsal stringer.  That was further sanded down. 

The decking behind the cockpit has two openings for access to the fuel tanks.  The raised detail was kind of weak here, and at first tried filling with just some plugs from sprue and boring those out, but did not like how that looked.  So ended up fashioning the replacement 'collars' by cutting and filing down brass sheet.

The bottom wing requires a hole near the wing roots.  This is for the bracing wires as they pass through the wings and attach to the landing gear struts.

The fuselage underside was completely flat, but should have some subtle cloth effects between the wooden frames, just like the sides have.  Thought I could just slightly carve  out the centers, but the pressure undid the glued joint.  So out came the razor saw to remove the whole bottom.

Plastic sheet was used to fashion a false bottom,and once that is fixed in place, some further putty will be applied to create the subtle cloth effects.

regards,

Jack

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:34 PM

Thanks guys! I just had the spinner the other day, painted it blue and it was ready to go. And the other five gear door parts were in the box, how the sixth vanished is beyond me. I guess if I have to I can make another door from sheet plastic and I have two old Typhoon I could probably rob a spinner off of...

On well to happier subjects:

AA: Oh wow that's cool! I hadn't noticed until now that you were putting the Hurricane and the Spit in there. And nice work on the figures and fueling lorry too.

Jack: As always you amaze me. Scratchbuilding the whole bottom of the fuselage just to get the right cloth effects- very cool!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:47 PM

Cliff, the missing parts couldn't have gone far. They are most likely lost in plain sight.

aa, looking good.

Jack, that's some impressive work to lay the least.

-Greg

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 2, 2018 1:16 AM

Ok guys, the 1st is now over and the GB is closed. and the first thing i want to say is a big masive

I consider a GB i have hosted to be a success if there is a 50% completion rate. You guys have smashed that. Out of 57 entries we have 42 completions with several more to come. In 13 months we have filled 110 pages with almost 3300 posts.

And even more important, you guys have come up with a whole range of cracking builds, from the very early days of the RAF right up to the modern day. We have the good old classics that everyone wil know to the less well known.

You guys have done the RAF proud. And i only come up with a theme and post the thread. Its down to those who take part as to whether a GB is a success, and you lot have come up trumps.

And, just to repeat one more time, but for those who have not finished, you are more than welcome to keep posting your progress and once its finished, i'll add it to the front page.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 2, 2018 1:19 AM

Jack, as always, your attention to detail is first rate. Amazing work on this.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, April 2, 2018 12:40 PM

Actually, thank you Bish.

A very fun GB, hard to believe a year has gone by .....again.

-Greg

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 2, 2018 1:07 PM

Greg

Actually, thank you Bish.

A very fun GB, hard to believe a year has gone by .....again.

 

I know. I am sure the years go quicker as i get older.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Monday, April 2, 2018 5:58 PM

Thank you Bish, Greg, and Cliff.

... and indeed Bish, thanks for hosting these great gatherings called group builds.

 

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Happy to report that the putty work on the underside came out like I had hoped it would:

After passing a sanding stick on the underside to ensure all the cross members were flush with with fuselage sides, the putty was made ready.  Mixed in with the kneadatite was 50% Apoxie Sculpt - this combination makes for better surface for sanding if required after the putty has cured.

1. -  putty is rolled into worm lengths and pressed around the inner framework.

2. - it is then further spread out towards the center with a metal tool

3. - further smoothed out with a fingertip

Above, the finished results.

The subtle cloth effects are most visible at extreme angle and favourable lighting.

 

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Monday, April 2, 2018 6:30 PM
Jack I've said it before but your attention to detail is amazing

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, April 2, 2018 7:17 PM

That's really something, Jack.

-Greg

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Monday, April 2, 2018 10:24 PM

That is some awesome work there Jack! That is an incredible way to replicate such a surface and effect.

I understand that this GB is now closed but I’m still plugging along on my Vampire. I’ll keep posting my updates here.

Starting to take shape now! The wings are on!!!!

 

 

I had to use some shims on the lower seam to insure proper dihedral.

 

 

Now comes the seam clean up,,, lots on this one....

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:52 AM

I rather like that as it is Stik, its coming on nicely.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 1:54 AM

Jack, great updates, really informative. That fabric look is brilliant.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Australia
Posted by lostagain on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:07 AM

Bish, no surprise, I'm not finished in time, thanks for another great GB, I will get the Lightning done and posted soon…
 
Jack, yet again, such great work, all of the stages are superb how to lessons, picking up techniques left right and centre. Please make sure the undercarriage is strong enough to support this great piece of modelling!
 
Stik, the vampire is shaping up well, does look wierd without the tail booms on.
 
iSteve, That is a super finish, the paint has come up really well, and the decals do set in very well. The staining issue is a real bugger haven’t experienced it before, but one to watch out for. Very fine work on the canopy masking – great result. Interesting that you are using the Gunze without thinning, I use it thinned about 50/50 with either Taniya acrylic thinner or Gunze’s levelling lacquer thinner 400(for the gloss). Takes forever to set with the 400 though. I will look at your technique to see if I can improve my painting results. Good to see your tip for wax paper and worms, that could be a lot quicker than taping everything up.
 
 TJ, very well done, ripper job on the plastic wooden wonder.
 
Gamera, I thought it was only me that does things like that…The finish looks fantastic, looking forward to a complete rig soon.
 
Bob, I like the desert camo on the ‘hawk.
AA, the diorama is looking great, looking forward to the finished product. Is the Albion lorry an Airfix kit? The detail in the Hurricane’s gun bays is really well done, and the figures look super.
 
Castel, sounds like a fast rig you’ve got. Even if it is not the latest, still a very good quality set up. I have got Campy Athena 11s on my carbon road bike, I'm not going back to Shimano, but Campy does need TLC.
 
Eric, Nice work with the black basing, I have followed down the same path for a Wyvern over in the Fleet Air Arm GB, I am finding it pretty labour intensive but a rich, deep finish. Like Jack says, I need to work out how to transfer the effect to the markings too. It must be taking you an absolute age on a model that size!
 
Thanks for the kind words guys, my issues with priming have been around getting an orange peel finish on the Vallejo Surface Primer (a gloss black primer). It is my issue I am sure, I need to take time from producing models and have a go at trying various mixes, pressures, flows and methods on a test piece to get a good gloss finish. May even unwrap the double action I bought five years ago, but haven’t tested out yet - trouble is there is barely enough time to complete the GBs I sign up for let alone all those I would like to do, but I’m not alone in that! Over Easter I upgraded the lighting in the shed where I airbrush, having identified that as one of my issues. I have also bought some of the Vallejo airbrush drying retarder since, and used it when I did the metal coats you see below. I think it helped?
After rubbing down the primer as best I could, I put on a coat of Vallejo metal effects Duraluminium. It went on really well, but did show up the orange peel in those spots where I couldn't reach with the emery paper.
A couple of days later, I had no trouble masking off a few panels and applying contrasting metallics.
I found that was a bit too contrasty though...
The middle of the wing is a mix of matt aluminium and the duraluminium. It came up looking like a slightly metallic grey though, so a mist coat was used to tone it all back in. Also did a few chrome highlight panels and a bit of variation in the belly. I'm pretty happy with teh effect.
So as you can see we are getting closer...

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 8:56 AM
Lost, Thanks for the kind words! Yes, the Albion refueler is the Airfix kit. And the Hawker Hurricane Mk. I's gun bays are really nice, the highlight of the Airfix kit of same. I also have to mention that the radio antennas were made from E-Z Line, my first time using the product, and I can't recommend it highly enough! Still working on figures, will have more pics later in the week.

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:10 AM

Stik, thanks, and excellent use of the shims on the wings.


Lost, thanks, and nice to see you got past the orange peel problem.  Good job on toning down the contrast on the various metallic paints.

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Also, thank you tempestjohnny, Greg, and Bish.

Speaking of added weight, yep the camel now is back heavy from all that putty in the rear.  Unlike the real thing, which was really nose heavy with the pilot, fuel, guns/ammo, and engine sitting up front.
The tail skid is pretty thin, and it already broke in half a while ago.  I will need to pin it back in with some brass rod.  Otherwise the main landing gear struts look to be sufficient to handle the extra weight.

regards,
Jack

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 10:23 AM

LA, no worries about not being finished, you keep plugging away. That NMF finish looks really nice, some nice subtle variation.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, April 3, 2018 12:01 PM

Jack: I love the bowed fabric look! And good luck with the gear, I can imagine that the putty would be a good bit heavier than the original parts. 

SP: Nice work there on your Winged Egg Of Death... um vampy... Wink

LA: Love the NM finish there! After the Day-Glo orange and white on your civvie Cobra and now the NM finish here I think I need to take lessons from you on doing difficult paint schemes. 

 

And thanks everyone. I've looked everywhere for the missing parts. There are six parts to the landing gear doors and I was worried about losing the small parts- this is one of the large sections though. And I just painted the friggin' spinner the other day! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 4, 2018 12:15 PM

“Winged egg of death...” LOL! Yes it is! Pilots actually nicknamed the Vampire “Flying Kiddie Car”, which the egg certainly resembles...

Thanks also to Bish, Jack, and Lost for your feedback. Lost, your Lightning looks sweet in the BMF that you applied. Excellent work!

 Surprisingly enough, the wing seam sanding went rather quickly.... thank goodness for CA accelerator to help where I neede some filler. Especially on the upper left wing over the intake. There was a step there...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now I just need to rescribe some lost panel line detail and I’ll then be ready to get the tail booms attached.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, April 4, 2018 1:08 PM

Thank you Cliff.

Stik, nice close ups of your work on the panel lines.  May I suggest (or maybe you already know) to lighty pass some liquid cement over the corrected lines - just helps clean things up a bit more.

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 4, 2018 2:18 PM

jgeratic

 

Stik, nice close ups of your work on the panel lines.  May I suggest (or maybe you already know) to lighty pass some liquid cement over the corrected lines - just helps clean things up a bit more.

regards,

Jack

 

 

Jack, Im not aware of what your referring to with the cement? Can you give a brief explanation please?

 

Oh yes, the scribing went smooth and quick so....

 

 

 

Tail booms on!!!!!

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, April 4, 2018 10:45 PM

stikpusher

 

 
jgeratic

 

Stik, nice close ups of your work on the panel lines.  May I suggest (or maybe you already know) to lighty pass some liquid cement over the corrected lines - just helps clean things up a bit more.

regards,

Jack

 

Jack, Im not aware of what your referring to with the cement? Can you give a brief explanation please?

 

 

Actually it would be extra thin cement, but yeah, what it does is smooth out the scribing, and possibly return to a thinner line with that coat of cement. It can also aid in seeing some imperfections before hitting with primer/paint.

regards,

Jack

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