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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, April 1, 2017 8:51 PM

Yes

So am I!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, April 2, 2017 12:17 PM

modelcrazy

I don't have any more RAF kits. I do have a couple of Thunderbolts and an Italian Tornado.

I'll might check for T-Bolt RAF decals and I don’t know if the Italian Tornado is different from the RAF Tornado but I can check.

Steve

 

Wildcats (don't know if the Hellcat made it over to the other side of the water or not), and later on some of the Phantoms as well might be possibilites.  Of course Mustangs and maybe the P40.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 2, 2017 12:27 PM

goldhammer
 
modelcrazy

I don't have any more RAF kits. I do have a couple of Thunderbolts and an Italian Tornado.

I'll might check for T-Bolt RAF decals and I don’t know if the Italian Tornado is different from the RAF Tornado but I can check.

Steve

 

 

 

Wildcats (don't know if the Hellcat made it over to the other side of the water or not), and later on some of the Phantoms as well might be possibilites.  Of course Mustangs and maybe the P40.

 

The British Phantoms were differant to the American ones. I would not mind an RAF Phantom myself, but from what i can figure, there has only been one kit. A lot of US aircraft in WW2 were used by us, but some, like the Wildcats and corsairs were only used by the Navy. But your right about the P-51 and P-40.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 2, 2017 12:37 PM

I was just doing some checking before replying to GH above and found this page on the RAF site. It may help if your looking for inspiration or woundering is a subject works for this GB.

http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/AircraftoftheRoyalAirForce.cfm

The 1912 to 1919 link seems to be broken, but all the rest are there.

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, April 2, 2017 12:45 PM

Appreciate the clarification.  I know we sent a lot of alum. to help, both before and after the US got involved actively, but not all that up on which service used what.  Poked around on your link a little, surprised at how many seaplanes/anfibs were in RAF service/test.

 

BTW, nice letter in the current issue of FSM.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:28 PM

Thanks for the link Bish i really want to do another subject along with the Spit. I need to make up for it you know Embarrassed

GH, I was thinking of the Corsair but remembered it was an FAA bird.

It was the was the British who taught us Yanks how to fly the Corsair property, as well as how to wake the Mustang to make it worth while.

They also tought us Radar, Sonar, centrifugal flow jet engines etc etc etc. 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:31 PM

goldhammer

Appreciate the clarification.  I know we sent a lot of alum. to help, both before and after the US got involved actively, but not all that up on which service used what.  Poked around on your link a little, surprised at how many seaplanes/anfibs were in RAF service/test.

 

BTW, nice letter in the current issue of FSM.

 

I must admit, i often have to check. Not all RN aircraft wear schemes that distinguish then clearly from the RAF, the Martlet (F4F) for example.

I had never realised just how many types the RAF had operated. Its a big list.

Thanks, never had a letter in there before.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:35 PM

modelcrazy

Thanks for the link Bish i really want to do another subject along with the Spit. I need to make up for it you know Embarrassed

GH, I was thinking of the Corsair but remembered it was an FAA bird.

It was the was the British who taught us Yanks how to fly the Corsair property, as well as how to wake the Mustang to make it worth while.

They also tought us Radar, Sonar, centrifugal flow jet engines etc etc etc. 

 

Indeed you do Big Smile.

I am not 100% certain, but i thnik it was suggestions from the RAF that lead to the B-17 being armed with all those .50 cal's after the Brits said it needed more firepower. Which seems a bit odd when you think about what British bombers were armed with.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:45 PM

You are correct sir. Also the suggestion of how to run our convoys and darkning our costal cities against the U-boats. Of course we didn't listen and lost many many ships due to our arrogance. 

Heck you guys named half our aircraft.

The British have contributed many valuable discoveries to the world.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:51 PM

modelcrazy

You are correct sir. Also the suggestion of how to run our convoys and darkning our costal cities against the U-boats. Of course we didn't listen and lost many many ships due to our arrogance. 

Heck you guys named half our aircraft.

The British have contributed many valuable discoveries to the world.

 

 

Well, i think its the same with every nation in every war. They all have to re learn the lessons the hard way.

I also think it was us who started naming your tanks, i think it started with the Stuart.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 2, 2017 2:56 PM

LOL, I wouldn't doubt it for a second. 

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Posted by DasBeav on Sunday, April 2, 2017 6:10 PM

Is it too late to throw in my Airfix 1 48th BP Defiant? Please forgive me...I am a newb.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 2, 2017 7:44 PM

Yeah, the UK Phantoms were re-engined with Rolls Royce Speys which were more powerful but a bit more bulky so the F-4s had to be slightly modified.

 

Sorry, haven't gotten anything done with the Tempest so far. I'm going to try to finish up my halftrack and hopefully get back to the A-Wing before I start in earnest on this GB Bish.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 2, 2017 8:51 PM

I'm also looking at the Lockheed Ventura. Xtradecal makes a set for the no 454 squadron. They were used for bombing runs where they were terrible. But whatever I come up with I'll need to order decals for it. 

I need to get some paint for the Spit first.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 3, 2017 4:22 AM

DasBeav

Is it too late to throw in my Airfix 1 48th BP Defiant? Please forgive me...I am a newb.

 

Not to late at all. As with most GB's, you can sign up and add builds at any point. All i ask is that you have fun anbd post updates when ever you can oryou think the progress makes it worth while. Any questions, please ask. And welcome aboard.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 3, 2017 4:27 AM

Gamera

Yeah, the UK Phantoms were re-engined with Rolls Royce Speys which were more powerful but a bit more bulky so the F-4s had to be slightly modified.

 

Sorry, haven't gotten anything done with the Tempest so far. I'm going to try to finish up my halftrack and hopefully get back to the A-Wing before I start in earnest on this GB Bish.

 

Thats it, the engines. I was only looking a couple of weeks back but could not remeber last week. I think Fujimi made a kit at one point, not sure about larger scales.

And no worries, seems like i am keeping you busy with GB's Big Smile

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 3, 2017 4:37 AM

modelcrazy

I'm also looking at the Lockheed Ventura. Xtradecal makes a set for the no 454 squadron. They were used for bombing runs where they were terrible. But whatever I come up with I'll need to order decals for it. 

I need to get some paint for the Spit first.

 

That 454 aircraft would be nice. I have the Minicraft 72nd PV-1 but unfortunatly they don't do those decals in that scale.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 7:47 AM

Regardless, I'll find something else. But have narrowed it to the Tornado, P-40 or Ventura.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 11:45 AM

Oh lookie what I found! I have a few of these in the stash.
What do you think Bish? If not I still have plenty of options. I would still need to get decals (or paint) to adorn it.

A6M2 and A6M5 Zero in British Malaya being tested and evaluated by Japanese pilots under the supervision of Royal Air Force officers. The A6M5's cockpit survives today at the Imperial War Museum Duxford.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 12:18 PM

Sorry double post

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 3, 2017 1:54 PM

modelcrazy

Oh lookie what I found! I have a few of these in the stash.
What do you think Bish? If not I still have plenty of options. I would still need to get decals (or paint) to adorn it.

A6M2 and A6M5 Zero in British Malaya being tested and evaluated by Japanese pilots under the supervision of Royal Air Force officers. The A6M5's cockpit survives today at the Imperial War Museum Duxford.

 

Yep, deffo, that counts under the rules. I was hoping we would get some, but expected they would be German. I have never seen captured Japanese aircraft before. The tail numbers are the original i guess, so its just the roundel and that writing. Any idea what that means.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 2:04 PM
Nope, no idea. I believe your right about the original tail numbers. Looking into it, it seems like these are the only Zeros captured by the RAF. I know we shared a lot of info from the IJA, IJN aircraft we captured. It's interesting there were Japanese pilots who were evaluating them. Confused you would think they would already know all about them.
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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 2:07 PM

Found it.

ATAIU-SEA (Allied Technical Air Intelligence Unit - South East Asia) was one of the joint Allied military intelligence units formed during World War II to recover Japanese aircraft
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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 3, 2017 2:14 PM

Well found. I had guessed the SEA bit, but not a clue about the first part. You would have thoguht those pilots would already know. To the best of my knowledge, we didn't use German pilots to test their captured aircraft. I seem to recall Erich Brown saying he just had to get in a figure it out.

I hope your able to do this one.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 2:18 PM
I will probably have to stencil the letters.
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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, April 3, 2017 2:30 PM

Looks like both birds have a second seat added and two people in each pit.  I would suspect that the Japanese were flying since they would know the limitations and how far in the envelope they could go without structural failure, and the Allied guy in back was evaluating, not only the one he is in but the other as well.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 2:51 PM
I’m not so sure. That may be the head rest you’re seeing. The cockpit from B1-05 (the type 52 in the background of the original picture) is at the Imperial War Museum in Duxford UK
BTW I found some 1/48 scale decals for the B1-12 (type 11 that bombed Pearl). I'm still looking for a 1/72 set.
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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 3, 2017 3:46 PM

Berna decals.

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/BER72036

And this set from ROP has a differant aircraft, Type 52, as well as an Aussie and US one.

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/MNFD72014

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 3, 2017 4:08 PM

PERFECT!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, put me down for a 1/72 Hasegawa type 52 Zero as the ATAIU-SEA captued Zero.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 3, 2017 4:21 PM

Ahhhh, Bish beat me to it!

Rising Decals also does a set under the title 'Eagles of the Dying Sun III'

www.flightdecs.ca/A_risingdecals_72.htm

 

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