I normally just paint the leading edge strips and the warning tips on the prop at the same time. So I hope it should all be the same yellow. 

I've been using about the same colour as the smilies on this site... 

Cliff, I think you are safe. 

I've posted on the British forum the question on the use lemon yellow  by the RAF, and there don't seem to any regular WW2 applications of it.  BSC (British Standard Colour) was set by their goverment, and were generally used by both civillain and military - this would explain the Lemon yellow in the chart alongside Golden Yellow.

In my searches I found this interesting table on scale effect of RAF paints:

https://www.cybermodeler.com/color/bs381c_comp.shtml

regards,

Jack

Thanks for the help guys!  Went to the shop near work to pick up some yellow, ended up walking out with a new Airfix Typhoon as well.

Bish,

You're right about the Xtradecals What If sheets for the TSR2.  I remember seeing a pic here on the forum thinking "That's a nice Vigilante", then I realized it was a TSR2.  I looked for them on evilbay, they seem to be unobtanium at the moment.

Ye, i noticed that as well. The kit is hard to get as well. All i could find was some re-released version with markings for what i think are japanese cartoon charectors. But it also comes with the original markings.

One of those in Op Granby colours would be nice.

Bish

One of those in Op Granby colours would be nice.

 

I was thinking the same thing.  I was thinking of adapting one of the shark mouthed Tornado schemes. I've also been thinking what kind of operational modifications they would have made over the years.  Would there have been a gun or two like the Tornado?  An aerial refueling probe would have to be added.  Would it be exposed like the Tornado, or retractable like the Tomcat? How much ordnance could you realistically hang?  In pics, it looks like the Tornado has six hard points on the fuselage.  The TSR-2 had an internal bay and wing hard points.  To extend the range, I'm thinking they would have stuck an auxiliary tank in the bomb bay, and added up to eight hard points (plus a center mounted fuel tank) under the fuselage.  Under the wings would be a fuel tank and a pod of some sort. It was originally going to morph into a swing wing, and that's a discussion for another time and place.

The inflight re-fueling capability would have certainly been added, they did so to the nimrod's and re fiited it to Vulcans for the Falklands. And i can imagine the TSR-2 being in use for that conflict. Not sure about a gun, seems a bit big for air to air combat or strafing runs.

Here is the undercart, I like the way tamiya captured the complex feel of the mechanism.

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Hoping to get primer on the airframe today.

Theuns

I got the primer on, gave it a sanding with 4000 MM then did the preshading aswell as added some dark areas to "modulate" the paint and give it a slight faded patchy look, paint does not fade in a nice uniform way ,especially where the painter overlapped it with the spraygun.

. by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

In direct sunlight the effect is more clear than in this pic

DSCN1928 by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

Theuns

An update on the Tempest.  Here she is in Ocean Gray.

The interior of the gear bay doors.

I've got a set of masks on the way for the Dark Green. Never used them before, we'll see.  Thinking I might be able to adapt them to the Typhoon when I get to it.

Looking nice there guys, both coming on really well.

O blimey, thats bad. I have a similar issue when i spray Alaclad primer onto enamel, but not the other way round. Furtunatly it was just a very small area.

Did you spray the only aircraft with the clearcoat.

Only tamiya clearcoat over humbrol enamle here, reacted in some areas worse than in others...

Theuns

Damn, that is nasty.

Isn't Tamiya a lacquer based product, and don't play nice with enamels?  From what I've just read, you can spray enamel over lacquer, but not the other way around - lacquer is very hot and melts the enamels.

regards,

Jack

Those look great guys!!! 

Theuns: Ouch that blows! No advice here, never used Tamiya rattle can paints. Good luck with the repairs, there's very few things I hate more than doing the whole blasted thing all over... 

Some sanding reveals that the TS13 affected only the enamel. The tamiy primer and plastic was not eaten.

I have used Alclad clearcoat over my enamel for years and it has not done anything to the paint.

I am just remembering that the propellant might have somthing to do with the hassles.....

Think I will just stick to clear acrylic again, its the safest option.

Theuns

jgeratic

Damn, that is nasty.

Isn't Tamiya a lacquer based product, and don't play nice with enamels?  From what I've just read, you can spray enamel over lacquer, but not the other way around - lacquer is very hot and melts the enamels.

regards,

Jack

 

I have always heard that, but like Theun's, i use Alclad clear over enamels witout any issues, and i am sure thats lacquer. But when i have applied primer onto an area thats been painted, i get the same reaction he did.

Theuns,

That totally sucks.  I've always used good old Testors Gloss and Flat with no ill effects on enamels (works okay on Tamiya rattle cans as well).  I remember when I was a car guy, everyone got excited about Tamiya's clear sprays.  A couple of the car mags did articles on them and found out that if you didn't apply them within a couple of hours, you had to wait about a month for the color coat to totally cure before applying the gloss.  The reason for this was the curing rates became different enough after a couple of hours and gloss would actually crack as it dried (and this was over a Tamiya color coat).  Which is why I've never used them, plus on the cars I build a rubbed out top coat is more realistic.

Work on Tempest continues.  I got the masks today and applied them after I got off work.  They went on very quick and easy.  Hopefully the sheet I didn't use has the mask for the sky colored band at the tail.  Unfortunately, when I checked the paint locker I discovered I was out of Dark Green.  Looks like a trip to the hobby shop tomorrow. Pics to follow when I can get to a computer.

Well, except for the missing fuel cap (it's not being affixed, as I'm having the Spitfire being refueled by the Albion refueling truck as part of the diorama), my Mk. I Spitfire for my Battle of Britain diorama is DONE!  The Tamiya kit was fantastic, a real joy to put together!  I think this required the least filling and sanding of any aircraft kit I've ever built; always admire Tamiya's fit and finish quality.  The only thing I'd slightly complain about is that the Tamiya decals are awfully fragile; there were a few that got ruined.

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A quick update on the Tempest.

The masks.  Made of a thin, translucent vinyl.  Very easy to use.

The horizontal surfaces masked.

The vertical.

It's actually easy, being green.

Unmasked in all her glory.

The only thing I wish I'd done first is paint the band of sky first.

That look really nice. Not sure if you mentioned it, are they Montex masks.

Good work there, AA - the Tamiya Spitfire does build up quite beautifully.

Theuns, excellent use of those masks, appear to be AML brand?

regards,

Jack

Well spotted jack, i just looked at the masks which look the same as Montex, never even noticed the instructions.

AA: She looks good! Looking forward to the dio. 

Lewbud: Sharp work! Those masks look like the cat's pajamas. 

Bish,

As Jack said they are by AML. They apply easily and there was no leakage, even with the raised panel lines. I got them off of eBay for a couple of bucks plus shipping, a very good investment.

AA, 

The Spit looks great! Can't wait to see the rest of the diorama.

Thanks Gamera!

Lewbud: I'm looking at the AML website now- ohhhhhh nice selection of masks there. They even have one for my Tempest. Very tempting......

Thanks for the head's up!!! 

I sanded the rough areas, hop I didnt loose to much detail.... now I need to totally re-prime and paint, stay tuned

. by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

. by Theunis van Vuuren, on Flickr

Theuns

Gamera, 

Glad I could help! In fact, I'll even take the blame if you get in trouble with SWMBO!

AA, 

As you said, no pressure. Just one question, are you done yet?

Theuns,

The recovery should be no problem to a man of your talents. You can do it.