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Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 9, 2017 12:02 PM

Will be good to see you underway Mark, its nice to have at least one member of the Boys in Blue on board Big Smile.

Be interesting to see this especially if you do the Bentwaters one.. I know the guys who run the Bentwaters Cold War Museum, they are also members of the model club i belong to. Will be nice to see something from there that doesn't have a jet pipe and Stars and bars.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Greg on Saturday, December 9, 2017 12:24 PM

Welcome, Mark.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, December 9, 2017 12:28 PM

Bish

Will be good to see you underway Mark, its nice to have at least one member of the Boys in Blue on board Big Smile.

Be interesting to see this especially if you do the Bentwaters one.. I know the guys who run the Bentwaters Cold War Museum, they are also members of the model club i belong to. Will be nice to see something from there that doesn't have a jet pipe and Stars and bars.

 

Stars and bars are the fellows who lost that 1860’s disagreement... Stars and Stripes are the guys who prevailed.... Wink 

and what’s wrong with jets?

 

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 9, 2017 12:36 PM

stikpusher
 
Bish

Will be good to see you underway Mark, its nice to have at least one member of the Boys in Blue on board Big Smile.

Be interesting to see this especially if you do the Bentwaters one.. I know the guys who run the Bentwaters Cold War Museum, they are also members of the model club i belong to. Will be nice to see something from there that doesn't have a jet pipe and Stars and bars.

 

 

 

Stars and bars are the fellows who lost that 1860’s disagreement... Stars and Stripes are the guys who prevailed.... Wink 

and what’s wrong with jets?

 

Absoulty nothing, especially one like that. Now if only that Eurofighter had a loaded cannon Big Smile

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by rocker286 on Saturday, December 9, 2017 3:18 PM

Looking forward to seeing your Spitfire build, Mark! 

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Posted by mawright20 on Monday, December 11, 2017 12:45 PM

 All, I was less than comfortable with the results of the Airfix Dogfight Double Dornier 17 I was working on, so have continued to the paired RAF Defiant. Been behind in submitting the WIP pics, so here are a few. These 1/72 kits are proving difficult with the small parts and VERY weak pieces like landing gear and the turrent gun barrels. Neither of the turrent guns survived even being removed from sprue. Will attempt to mend prior to completion. As always any feedback is appreicated. Mike

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Posted by jeaton01 on Monday, December 11, 2017 5:03 PM

In the insert image window the "Constrain Proportions" checkbox is checked.  Get rid of that and your photos should be fixed, as this one is.

 

John

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Posted by mawright20 on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 4:33 AM
Thanks John, will do. Mike
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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 12, 2017 7:34 AM

Mawright: Looks good, you're making great progress! 

John: Thanks, I was wondering why his photos were stretched. 

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Posted by rocker286 on Friday, December 15, 2017 11:04 AM

mawright- The turret fit and the weakness of those guns were the only real complaints I had about the new tool Defiant. You'd think those MG barrels would be made of stronger stuff! I'm sorry they broke up on you. Fitting that turret in with the back fairing in place will be a bit of a struggle, in fact you may have to take off the turret glass and then re-attach it to the turret ring once it's in place. But your build looks excellent so far- I really like the way the standard RAF camo looks on it!  

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Posted by rocker286 on Friday, December 15, 2017 11:06 AM

Bish- I've always liked black as an underside color for warbirds, I bet that Ju 88 will turn out great! I'd like to find a Br.20 kit sometime and paint it with black undersides. 

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Posted by mawright20 on Sunday, December 17, 2017 6:11 AM

 Rocker, Thanks for the support. Callingthis one done even though not as nice as I wanted to make it. Yeah, found out the turrent didn't want to play nice when going in. Couldn't get the barrels to sit right and used artist's discretion to leave them as 'battle damaged'! Also showing it's sister ship P-40 in RCAF markings. Image may contain: shoes No automatic alt text available. Image may contain: airplane

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Sunday, December 17, 2017 8:08 AM

rocker286

mawright, do you have the Airfix kit in your stash? I haven't run into any big problems with it yet- but the decals have a tendency to silver a little bit. 

 

And speaking of Decals, I spent the weekend putting all of them on. 

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Rocker....that is badass!  

 

I've been checking in from time to time, and there are some awesome build here!  

I am almost finished with my dambuster, but I'm not too thrilled with the nose turret fit.  The piece in the instructions is definitely not the proper piece, and the fit is horrendous.  I definitely did something wrong!  Lol.  The airframe is finished, and I just have to finish the dio base, and that will come after the holidays....

 

Bish, I did have a question for you...its not really related to the RAF, but you seemingly have extensive knowledge...I'm looking to build an Irish Air Corps hurricane, but the only decals I have been able to find are seemingly our of stock everywhere.  Any idea where I could get my grubby hands on a set?

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 17, 2017 9:23 AM

Justin, look forward to seeing that dio when its done, glad to hear your still plugging away at it.

What scale are you looking for. I checked hannants and they don't have any. I did come across a company caled Max decals who produced sets in 72nd and 48th back in 2011, are those the ones you were looking at. Hannants has some from Max but not those 2.

The best i could find was a company called Colorado. They have Spitefire decals in 72nd and 48th which include Irish. This would give you the national markings, you would just have to source the codes, which look to be pretty basic numbers.

When do you plan on doing this, would be nice to see this in the Commonwealth GB next year.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:58 PM

Mawright: She looks pretty friggin' good to me!

Justin: Have you tried Flightdecs Canada? They have a pile of decals including stuff I've never seen before.

http://www.flightdecs.ca/

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Sunday, December 17, 2017 4:39 PM
I think the story on spray on primers - if you use them at all, and some don't (Doog favors Gunze Gloss Black paint for NMS primer: Andy Hobby HQ uses Tamiya NATO Black)- has been pretty well ended with Stynelrez. It's simply outstanding for an acrylic primer and sands much better than Vallejo. You might think of spray on primers - Tamiya makes fine paints and I'm sure theirs will do. They're mild lacquers and hence kind of bond with the paint - they won't come off. If you can stand the smell or if you're able to do it outside the best primer on earth is Duplicolor Automotive Primer: Sandable, Fillable, Black Lacquer. (Duplicolor makes an army of paints - look for product DAP 1698 - Black Primer.) I've use this on all my aircraft. It has a fan cap, which means it will lay down perfectly if you follow instructions. (I'd use a mule for a quick practice.) The coverage is fantastic and it will fill scratches and mistakes of all kinds but leave detail in perfectly good shape. I am nearly 100% solvent free in my modeling. But this stuff is so good that I make an exception. All canned lacquer primers can be decanted and applied with an airbrush - but the fumes are strong and you won't get it on any better than you can with a spray can once you're used to using them. But, as noted, Stynelrez deserves all the praise it gets. It just won't fill scratches etc like Duplicolor and by its nature it could in theory come off. Eric

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by EBergerud on Sunday, December 17, 2017 4:48 PM
A WWII pilot once told me that there was a saying "if it looks right, it flies right." And it's uncanny how many fine WWII fighters had the "look". (Your mileage may vary, but to my eyes the bad guys had the "look" - Zero nearly perfect, 109, FW190, Macchi 202 and Oscar close.) Grumman's Wildcat was the only decent fighter to look flat out bad. The Defiant was a dog and looks like a dog. When the Brits screwed things up, they did it proper job of screwing up and the Defiant was a screw-up. But it was part of history and your model of it is very nicely done and I like it a lot. Eric

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by Justinryan215 on Sunday, December 17, 2017 6:41 PM

Bish

Justin, look forward to seeing that dio when its done, glad to hear your still plugging away at it.

What scale are you looking for. I checked hannants and they don't have any. I did come across a company caled Max decals who produced sets in 72nd and 48th back in 2011, are those the ones you were looking at. Hannants has some from Max but not those 2.

The best i could find was a company called Colorado. They have Spitefire decals in 72nd and 48th which include Irish. This would give you the national markings, you would just have to source the codes, which look to be pretty basic numbers.

When do you plan on doing this, would be nice to see this in the Commonwealth GB next year.

 

It was the max ones that I saw...I've only done a cursory search so far, still in the planning stages, but I would totally join in on the Commonwealth group build!

I am really just looking for 1/72 scale, because I find they take up a nice amount of space, and they are relatively quick builds....

"...failure to do anything because someone else can do better makes us rather dull and lazy..."

Mortal as I am,I know that I am born for a day.  But when I follow at my pleasure the serried multitude of the stars in their circular course, my feet no longer touch the Earth...

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Sunday, December 17, 2017 7:30 PM

 

Let's get going here. After a couple of forgettable builds on the 1942 GB, I'm going to try to redeem my promise to Bish to deliver an Italeri 1/72 Sunderland Mk I. Four engined flying boats were for a while among the biggest planes in the world and the Sunderland was a whopping big plane. Just for reference, the thing was larger than a B-17 and heavier. The kit reviews have been mostly positive - it's a 2014 new tool Italeri: not a rebox that the company specializes in. But the part count is high and it's going to be a challenge the handle the build because it will be very big. Let's say that this one is a "project." So I'd better get started on it now, especially as I owe the War Memorial in Canberra an article about the Pacific War. I have hopes of a water base - but timing may say otherwise. We'll see. As you can see, the big box is well filled:

 

 kit by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

Like all flying boats Sunderlands were extremely useful and were never thrown away. There were 777 Sunderlands built - but because most kept on trucking and weren't disposable like combat types it would not have been a rare plane. It is best remembered for anti-submarine work, but because of its 18 hour range, it did many odd jobs. Nor were combat losses high. So a MKI - the mark I have - could have been built in 1939 and served throughout the war. Sunderlands remained in RAF service well into the 50s, and the last one in use was retired by the RNAZ in 1967.

 

And because the Sunderland spent its entire life in or over salt water - this kit will require black basing and heavy weathering. Goody.

 

I'm using Golden High Flows on this kit - they're my paint now. So I had to make my own colors. The camo scheme I'm going to use is the Temperate Sea Scheme used by Coastal Command after 1941. That means Dark Slate Gray, Extra Dark Sea Gray and Sky S1. I have some good sources on the colors - especially a nice analysis on RAF colors I bought from Nick Millman the uber-color-guru and moderator of the wonderful Japan Air website.

 

As I get more interested in color mixing, I'm picking up some tips from various art channels and have found them to give me better paints than just trying to "eyeball" a mix. Golden is the best American art acrylic company and has a massive arrays of paints, mediums etc. High Flow is made for airbrushing but uses the same pigments as all of their colors. They include a larger number of "mixing" colors - colors that you'd probably never use on their own, but have extraordinary impact when added to others. Mind you this is great fun and I wouldn't do it if it wasn't. But there's method too. I have excellent Vallejo Model Color paints for each of these paints and use them as invaluable samples for my mixes. If you know mediums Model Color is easily airbrushes. However, Vallejo paints, as much as I like them, are not as good as High Flow for "painting small" - very thin paint, very low psi. This is essential for black basing. (Ideally you'd use Gunze, Tamiya or one of the Eastern European lacquer/acrylics.) Just to give you an idea of the fun and games required (this took maybe four hours - two nights of work). The mixture for Sky includes: platho blue/raw umber equal + dab of Naples Yellow and a good dose of titanium white. (Golden's white is extremely opaque for the color.) Extra Dark Sea Gray required essentially the creation of a chromatic black and then cut. (BTW: it's a dead match for Vallejo MC Luftwaffe Uniform: a very dark gray with a hint of blue.) That took Prussian Blue, Sepia, dabs of Quinacrodine Red & prime blue - then neutral gray and a bit of carbon black. Dark Sea Gray has a definite green hue - a little like olive drab. The mix used was ultramarine, yellow oxide, neutral gray and black. I'm keeping track of these brews so I can make them again. I also made RAF Interior Green, which I used my early war USN interior green as a base. RAF interior green is gray, it is green, it is not olive like standard US interior green is. It is a little more subdued, but similar to Japanese interior green. You can't tell the details, but here are samples of what I made:

 

 colors by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 

 

Will report on the build soon.

 

Eric

 

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 18, 2017 2:03 AM

Justinryan215

 

 
Bish

Justin, look forward to seeing that dio when its done, glad to hear your still plugging away at it.

What scale are you looking for. I checked hannants and they don't have any. I did come across a company caled Max decals who produced sets in 72nd and 48th back in 2011, are those the ones you were looking at. Hannants has some from Max but not those 2.

The best i could find was a company called Colorado. They have Spitefire decals in 72nd and 48th which include Irish. This would give you the national markings, you would just have to source the codes, which look to be pretty basic numbers.

When do you plan on doing this, would be nice to see this in the Commonwealth GB next year.

 

 

 

It was the max ones that I saw...I've only done a cursory search so far, still in the planning stages, but I would totally join in on the Commonwealth group build!

I am really just looking for 1/72 scale, because I find they take up a nice amount of space, and they are relatively quick builds....

 

I notice there is not a lot of choice for Irish decals. I thought of the Spitefire ones because i figure they would be the same size. I'll keep an eye open, but if they are out of production, i think your best shot might be finding some on e-bay.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 18, 2017 2:07 AM

Looking forwardto seeing this one Eric, not a type we see often. Its a great looking aircraft. Will especially be keeping an eye open for tips on weathering a seaplane.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, December 18, 2017 2:12 AM

Bish - Did you just say Commonwealth GB ??? When do you plan to start it, I need to have plenty of time available for that one !

Eric, thats really going to be an interesting project, I'll be following avidly.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 18, 2017 2:16 AM

Tony, yes i did. I plan on it starting 1st July, give myself 3 months off from hostinbg GB's when this ends. It will run until the 28th April 2019, 70 years after the London Decleration. It will be open to all current and former member states of the Commonwealth and all branches, so not just the air forces of those countries.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by taxtp on Monday, December 18, 2017 3:35 AM

Thanks Bish, I'll plan for it. Does it also include the British Empire days ?

Cheers Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 18, 2017 4:24 AM

Yep, anything from the first days of powered flight. I am wanting it to be as open as possable.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Monday, December 18, 2017 5:38 AM
The Australian armed forces have been good to me: I have a P-40E with RAAF markings - an accurate Miniature SBD with RNZAF too (that's a project). I'm pretty sure my AMT A-20 has RAAF markings - that's a must build. But I've got another itch. If Lucky Model ever gets it to me, I've ordered a Meng M3 Grant (Brit edition - Lee is US). After the Grant's day was over (after Sicily) the Brits sent some to India. They were very active in the helter-skelter Imphal-Burma campaign in 44-45 - maybe with the Indian Army? This is no joke - I've got my eyes out for a 1/35 scale elephant - there's a famous pic of a elephant walking by a parked M3.

 

A model boat is much cheaper than a real one and won't sink with you in it.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 18, 2017 6:25 AM

Be glad to have any of those aircraft in it Eric.

That M3 build sounds interesting. Can't say i have seen a 35th Elephant, but surely there must be somthing out there.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, December 18, 2017 6:30 AM

So i just googled 1/35th Elephant, and what did i get, the German tank destroyer Bang Head

I did find a Verlinden one, real Elephant that is, number 1543. There is a seller on e-bay, but its $75, thats a tad steep.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by jgeratic on Monday, December 18, 2017 11:39 AM

Mawright20, good job on the Defiant.  Yes

Given the smaller scale, you could get away with some hollow brass rod to replace the turret guns.

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Eric, look forward to that behemoth.

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Tally-Ho is another brand  I found for Irish decals.  It does look in this instance they used all same sizes of markings regardless the aircraft type:

regards,

Jack

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Posted by BrandonD on Monday, December 18, 2017 11:48 AM

Justinryan - I have leftover decals from the 1/48 Special Hobby Seafire Aeronavale/Irish Air Service kit. It has the national insignia in it, and I think they have white backgrounds on them.

They're yours if you want them.

-BD-

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