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  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, November 30, 2018 6:11 PM

Got my copy of the Jan issue today and there in the Reader gallery is Steve's Zero. Well done Steve for making the pages of the mag.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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    November 2003
  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 7:14 AM

No worries and thank you-I'll be glad to see this one though and hopefully pick up the pace for future builds.

bob

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 1:55 AM

Bod, sorry, i had not noticed that yours was a new post. The P-40 is coming on really well, look forweardto seeing it finished.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Monday, August 20, 2018 7:23 PM

Thank you Jack-looking forward to seeing more of your great work.

Eric-sorry if mislead you by posting-this GB ended in April and I've just been lagging in getting this one complete.  I will be following your build in the Commonwealth GB-I picked up the Airfix P-40 and I'm looking forward to seeing your build.  Going to try to submit something there once I finish up the P-40 and a F-6B for the Shelf of Doom GB.

bob

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, August 20, 2018 3:52 AM

Eric, i am guessing this should be in the Commonwealth GB.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Berkeley CA/St. Paul MN
Posted by EBergerud on Sunday, August 19, 2018 10:50 PM

Nice to see that the GB is back in business. However, it does appear that we've lost most of the posts from mid-May to yesterday. I think we lost the email chain on July 23. (Maybe others are luckier.) Anyway, just in case, I'll post what I did a few weeks back. Knock on wood gents.

 

OK, I'm in with an Airfix 1/48 P-40B. It will carry the colors and markings of a Tomahawk IIA or IIB. (The P-40B and P40C were almost identical physically: the C had self-sealing tanks and connections for a drop tank. When in British service they were called Tomahawks - later P40s were Kittyhawks and substantially different aircraft.) As you can see, I bought the Airfix P-40B which has US or Flying Tiger markings. Fortunately I have some decals that will serve well for Desert Air Force. Had I waited a couple of months, I could have bought the Airfix Tomahawk and saved myself a little bother. Here's the kit:

 

 kit by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

I bought a Polish made mask that's visible - hope it works. The complex Desert Scheme is Dark Earth, Middle Stone, and Azure (or light blue - I'm going to see how common that was) so I've got some serious color mixing to do. That's fun for me and a task made for Golden High Flow with their heavy duty mixing colors. This model cries for black basing and very heavy fading and it will get it.

 

One thing I do promise - there will be no shark's teeth. The Germans invented the scheme for the BF110 and it's ugly there and ugly on a P-40. (I'm going to shift the Chinese decals that comes with the kit to an Eduard P I-16 which was used by China in large numbers in the late 30s. The AFG was actually in service for a very short time and there were more I-16s – mostly dead by 1942. So maybe the US P-40B was the better kit for my purposes.) Many squadrons in Desert Air Force used the teeth too - but not all.

 

Desert Air Force was the Commonwealth war effort in action. I think there were pilots from every country - especially from Oz. The pic below is a Kittyhawk flown by Clive "Killer" Caldwell who was the Top Gun from Oz with 28 kills - most in a P-40 - including a couple of LW "Experten."   So, we're thinking of something along this line (unfortunately I don't have Caldwell's exact markings):

 

Eric

 

 Tomhwk2b by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 

 

 

 

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, August 19, 2018 9:49 PM

Hi Bob, that is looking great. 

Wish I was at your stage of the build, but still at the paint stage on my Camel.

 

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Nashville, TN area
Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, August 19, 2018 6:31 PM

Hey all-Sorry for laging in this GB-lost motivation but finally got back in gear and did some work on the P-40E-assembled, painted, decaled, coat of dullcote and ready for some dot filtering/weathering....hopefully I can come close to completing it by the end of next weekend.

bob

 

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:53 AM

Thank you Tony, Stik, Bish, and Cliff.

I did use some poster putty when working out the outer struts.  At the start of the Cabane configuration is where it was at it's most wonkiness.  I used green putty and super glue gel here, so had a good hour to adjust angles and such.

regards,

Jack

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, June 7, 2018 7:28 AM

Gee whiz Jack! 

Have you tried using poster tack or something like that to hold them in place till you get everything aligned? I swear sometimes I wish I were a squid with ten tentacles, two hands just ain't enough...  

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:04 AM

Looking good Jack, nice job on the struts.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, June 6, 2018 8:56 PM

Jack, the strut and wing alignment look to be a serious challenge. But I have no doubt that you will pull this off quite well.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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  • From: Australia
Posted by taxtp on Wednesday, June 6, 2018 8:06 PM

Nice Jack, looking really good. This is the tricky bit. Good luck with it.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Wednesday, June 6, 2018 6:47 PM

Sopwith Camel is still on the bench, but have missed a few days here and there of getting myself to sit down ...

Got the struts sorted out, but man it's true like someone stated on another forum - it's like trying to balance a ruler on four free standing pencils.   The cabane struts are fixed directly onto the fuselage, different from Eduard's design of affixing them to the cockpit decking.

The outer struts I found a bit short in height, so added some plastic sheet to the ends.  Once the glue dried, the ends are sanded flush with the original part.  All ends also had some brass pins added to better lock into pre-drilled holes.

... and finally grey primer is on.   Upper wing is just a test fit for photo purposes.  Should mention the resin MG's (Gaspatch product), were not a  simple drop fit.  The undersides had to be carved,  as well as the framework they sit on inside the cockpit.  Compared to the kit's weapons, Eduard had them undersized.

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Australia
Posted by lostagain on Friday, June 1, 2018 7:47 AM

Stik,

Cockpit looks great, sight has come up well, I think...

Nick,

Thanks for that, I like the colour contrast too

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, June 1, 2018 7:43 AM

SP: Yeah I have to admit the gunsight is kinda hard for me to see even with the photo expanded. Still, super nice work overall! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Thursday, May 31, 2018 10:04 PM

LA great job that looks fantastic.. the bare metal and the blue trim on the money.

Stik you have a good eye for detail.

 

Nick.

  • Member since
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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 31, 2018 9:19 PM

Well, here are some photos of the clear glue on the gun sight... but I think that the flash overwhelmed it... 

 

 

 

But it’s too late now for a re shoot since I glued the canopy in place...

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
    July 2004
  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, May 31, 2018 4:52 PM

I have the canopy all masked up now... and I applied some clear glue to the gun sight. 

 

 

I’ll get photos of the sight up once the clear glue has dried.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    November 2003
  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Saturday, May 26, 2018 6:05 AM

EBergerud
tempestjohnny: I'm a former photobucket user. I switched to flicker which is actually pretty easy and free. If you want a walk through on the transition give me an email. rickt2@prodigy.net Eric
 

Eric thanks for the offer.  I think I'm ok with postimage for now.  John

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, May 26, 2018 1:14 AM

Coming on nicely Stik.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, May 26, 2018 1:13 AM

jgeratic

Bish, I tried the Aerodrome forum and this was the most info they had:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/services/gbritain/rfc/92.php

Going by the listing of it's WW1 aces, it seems 92 Squadron was a multi-national affair, having pilots from Britain, Canada, United States, and Australia.  Curious indeed ...

regards,

Jack

 

Thanks for the info Jack, curious indeed.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Friday, May 25, 2018 6:25 PM

And now back to our Vampire build!

 

Colors applied over the primered PE

 

 

 

now I need to mask the canopy and get that in place next...

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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    April 2006
  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Monday, May 14, 2018 10:34 AM

Bish, I tried the Aerodrome forum and this was the most info they had:

http://www.theaerodrome.com/services/gbritain/rfc/92.php

Going by the listing of it's WW1 aces, it seems 92 Squadron was a multi-national affair, having pilots from Britain, Canada, United States, and Australia.  Curious indeed ...

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, May 14, 2018 2:04 AM

jgeratic

Thank you Bish and LA about the the Canadian connection with 92 Squadron. 

It piqued my interest, but a devil of a time trying to find any WW1 info on this.  Seems the only time there is mention of Canada is in the description of the leaves within badge.

regards,

Jack

 

Ye, i noticed its not even reffered to as a Canadian Sq, so i am not exactly sure why it is called a Canadian Sq. Could be it just happened to have a lot of Canadians in the Sq. Even the RAF site does not go into detail.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

  • Member since
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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Monday, May 14, 2018 12:48 AM

Thank you Bish and LA about the the Canadian connection with 92 Squadron. 

It piqued my interest, but a devil of a time trying to find any WW1 info on this.  Seems the only time there is mention of Canada is in the description of the leaves within badge.

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Australia
Posted by lostagain on Sunday, May 13, 2018 7:31 PM

Thanks for the kind words everyone, it was a great kit of a great looking aircraft.

Jack, as Bish said, 92 Sqn was a Canadian outfit in WW1.

The Vallejo metal colour paint was good to use and took masking easily.

Thanks again Bish

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, May 13, 2018 4:58 PM

Lost, your Lightning came out beautifully! The NMF and colorful trim are quite pleasing to the eye. Great Job!!!

As for the Lightning itself, even today, roughly 60 years after they first took to the air, it still looks futuristic and cutting edge. A true fantastic beast of the air.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:07 PM

jgeratic

LA, excellently done. Yes

Great natural metal finish you achieved there.  Is that a pair of red maple leafs on the tail - any Canadian connection?

regards,

Jack

 

Thats the 92 Sqn Insignia, a Cobra around a pair of maple leaf. I believe it was originally a Candian Sq within the RFC in WW1.

The Cobra because it was an east India gift Sq in WW2.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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