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RAF 100th Anniversay GB

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  • Member since
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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Monday, April 2, 2018 5:58 PM

Thank you Bish, Greg, and Cliff.

... and indeed Bish, thanks for hosting these great gatherings called group builds.

 

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Happy to report that the putty work on the underside came out like I had hoped it would:

After passing a sanding stick on the underside to ensure all the cross members were flush with with fuselage sides, the putty was made ready.  Mixed in with the kneadatite was 50% Apoxie Sculpt - this combination makes for better surface for sanding if required after the putty has cured.

1. -  putty is rolled into worm lengths and pressed around the inner framework.

2. - it is then further spread out towards the center with a metal tool

3. - further smoothed out with a fingertip

Above, the finished results.

The subtle cloth effects are most visible at extreme angle and favourable lighting.

 

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 2, 2018 1:07 PM

Greg

Actually, thank you Bish.

A very fun GB, hard to believe a year has gone by .....again.

 

I know. I am sure the years go quicker as i get older.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Monday, April 2, 2018 12:40 PM

Actually, thank you Bish.

A very fun GB, hard to believe a year has gone by .....again.

-Greg

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 2, 2018 1:19 AM

Jack, as always, your attention to detail is first rate. Amazing work on this.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Bish on Monday, April 2, 2018 1:16 AM

Ok guys, the 1st is now over and the GB is closed. and the first thing i want to say is a big masive

I consider a GB i have hosted to be a success if there is a 50% completion rate. You guys have smashed that. Out of 57 entries we have 42 completions with several more to come. In 13 months we have filled 110 pages with almost 3300 posts.

And even more important, you guys have come up with a whole range of cracking builds, from the very early days of the RAF right up to the modern day. We have the good old classics that everyone wil know to the less well known.

You guys have done the RAF proud. And i only come up with a theme and post the thread. Its down to those who take part as to whether a GB is a success, and you lot have come up trumps.

And, just to repeat one more time, but for those who have not finished, you are more than welcome to keep posting your progress and once its finished, i'll add it to the front page.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:47 PM

Cliff, the missing parts couldn't have gone far. They are most likely lost in plain sight.

aa, looking good.

Jack, that's some impressive work to lay the least.

-Greg

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:34 PM

Thanks guys! I just had the spinner the other day, painted it blue and it was ready to go. And the other five gear door parts were in the box, how the sixth vanished is beyond me. I guess if I have to I can make another door from sheet plastic and I have two old Typhoon I could probably rob a spinner off of...

On well to happier subjects:

AA: Oh wow that's cool! I hadn't noticed until now that you were putting the Hurricane and the Spit in there. And nice work on the figures and fueling lorry too.

Jack: As always you amaze me. Scratchbuilding the whole bottom of the fuselage just to get the right cloth effects- very cool!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, April 1, 2018 7:46 PM

AA, that is looking really lively with the figures, so hope you have time to add the final touches to the scene.

Cliff, I really like what I'm seeing with that update, hope you can continue her to the finish line.

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Typical me, not making the due date, but already knew that even before starting as I always have trouble joining in right at the start.  Anyhow, last official update, then it's on to bulding on borrowed time ...

Once the fuslage halves were together, work was needed on both top and bottom seams.  A length of sprue was added on top to represent the detail of the uppermost dorsal stringer.  That was further sanded down. 

The decking behind the cockpit has two openings for access to the fuel tanks.  The raised detail was kind of weak here, and at first tried filling with just some plugs from sprue and boring those out, but did not like how that looked.  So ended up fashioning the replacement 'collars' by cutting and filing down brass sheet.

The bottom wing requires a hole near the wing roots.  This is for the bracing wires as they pass through the wings and attach to the landing gear struts.

The fuselage underside was completely flat, but should have some subtle cloth effects between the wooden frames, just like the sides have.  Thought I could just slightly carve  out the centers, but the pressure undid the glued joint.  So out came the razor saw to remove the whole bottom.

Plastic sheet was used to fashion a false bottom,and once that is fixed in place, some further putty will be applied to create the subtle cloth effects.

regards,

Jack

 

  • Member since
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:39 PM

Thats fine. I will officially close the GB tomorrow morning, but anyone is more than welcome to keep posting their builds however long it takes.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:35 PM
Oh, okay, thanks Bish! I should have all the figures done later this week, so I’ll post a more final view then.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:13 PM

You don't have to rush it AA, there is no deadline once you have started the build. You can finish it off or i can use one of those pics, up to you.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Sunday, April 1, 2018 4:11 PM

Sorry if I’m a little past deadline, but I’ve been having multiple Internet connectivity issues all night tonight!  So, I didn’t get ALL the crewmen I wasworking on done, but here’s enough for a final reveal:

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:38 PM

That looks good G, really like those markings. I just hate that when parts go missing. Had that on my current build but was fortuantly able to source some from anotehr kit.

Look forward to seeing that done when your able.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:33 PM

Eric: Cross my fingers you're crossing the finish line soon.

Steve & TJ: Great job there on your builds!

 

I was hoping I'd finish this one up in time but well, as usual there's something... Bang Head

The prop spinner and one of the landing gear doors vanished from the box after painting. I've searched everywhere and no friggin' idea where they've gotten to. Angry

Anyway here's where I am. I put the final matte coat on what I have and then painted the exhaust stains on yesterday. Guess I'm stuck now till hopefully the missing parts show up...

Anyway, happy anniversay to the RAF, happy Easter to everyone and cross my fingers I'll come limping across the finish line in the next couple weeks. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, April 1, 2018 1:29 PM
Thanks Greg

 

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 1, 2018 11:07 AM

Johnny, I really like your Mosquito.

The camo pattern has lots of interest and good contrast. It looks like your weathering on the belly is spot on. Not too much, not too little.

And you too are right on time! Smile

-Greg

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Sunday, April 1, 2018 11:00 AM

Steve, that was a great update post (and finished post combined!). And right on time, too! :)

I think your Spitfire looks great, it makes me want to build one.

I also think I've read a couple of posts regarding Microsol staining over Alclad aqua clear (the acrylic stuff). It's neat how you fixed the problem.

-Greg

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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, April 1, 2018 10:49 AM

Thanks Jack and Bish

Bish hopefully I can get a few in for the Commonwealth GB

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 9:45 AM

Superbly done TJ, thats 3 great builds you have done here. Thank you for taking part.

Now, we will get any more completions before the end of the day.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, April 1, 2018 9:00 AM

Steve, excellent work on the BoB era Spitfire. Yes

Everything about it looks solid to me, and good stuff on overcoming the decal problem.

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tempestjohnny, cracking job on your Mossie. Yes

She looks to be a fine example of this popular 'wooden wonder'.

 

 

regards,

Jack

  • Member since
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  • From: Naples, FL
Posted by tempestjohnny on Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:53 AM

Finished!!!

 

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  • From: Worcester, England.
Posted by aeroplanegripper on Sunday, April 1, 2018 6:43 AM

Happy Birthday RAF! 100 years old and still going strong, Per Ardua Ad Astra!

Best Regards

Mark

"bis vivit qui bene vivit"

 

  • Member since
    December 2002
  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 1, 2018 3:46 AM

Steve, really nice job on tha Spit, its come out great. And i think your post have been spotting. Shareing tips and ideas is just as iumportant as posting the pics.

I do like your exhausts, i have been trying different things to get a good lok on mine. I like how yours have come out.

Thanks for taking part and shareing your work with us.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

  • Member since
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  • From: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Posted by iSteve on Sunday, April 1, 2018 1:23 AM

My final update:

I used Alclad aqua gloss on the entire surface to prep for decals and on they went, after a quick brush for each with Micro Set. I've been very happy with Airfix's decals with their new releases and these were no exception. They're solid without being too thick and snuggled down nicely.

As well as they went down, I still wanted them form-fitting to the surface and panel lines, so I generously brushed on the Micro Sol. This turned out to be my undoing as for some reason, the Micro Sol reacted to the Alclad Aqua Gloss and left stains.

The stains were even more noticeable on the underside where the paint was lighter. I did some reading online and turns out this has happened to others. It also occurs with Future gloss. Apparently, there's a chemical reaction, though I've used Micro Sol over Aqua Gloss before without any ill effects. It wasn't noticeable on the dark green areas, so perhaps I had previously used it on darker colours. It may have also been the combination of the gloss with the Mr. Color Aqueous, but it had dried thoroughly before the gloss went on. The solution was simple, if not a little tedious. I airbrushed the colours over the stains and for the rest of the decals, I dabbed away any excess beyond the decal. So long as the excess beyond the decal was minimal and not fairly large droplets, there were no further adverse reactions.

I moved on to some of the smaller details. I mixed Alclad Exhaust Manifold with Pale Burnt Metal for the exhausts.

Masking complex curves on windscreens is always fun. In the past, I have simply over-masked, rubbed down the edges with a toothpick and then used a new Exacto blade to trim. What I found, though, was that the slightest miss - which would invariably occur - would stick out like a sore thumb to me on the glass. So this time I used very thin strips or cut small patches to do the edges and then filled in. It worked rather well with just a couple of touch-ups with a brush.

I added another gloss coat to seal the decals and added Flory Washes for weathering. I love Flory Washes because they're so easy to work with and so forgiving. Clean up is simple with a damp Q-Tip. I was selective about where I put the washes: I wanted to show a fairly clean plane and I don't go for stark, dark panel lines on my models unless there is a reason. The gun access hatches, maintenance hatches and so forth received washes and dirt spatter and areas that pick up grime were also brushed with wash.

Once the weathering was on to my liking, I used Tamiya -Semi Gloss Clear out of the airbrush for its final coat and then added some aluminum "chipping" along the wing root with a small bit of sponge.

The windscreens went on next, after some dry-fitting and particularly a bit of sanding and scraping on the front screen around the armor area. The small rear view mirror was first painted silver on one side so the mirror part would remain as "glass" and then painted over that with dark green to attempt to create a more realistic reflector.

I painted on the red gun patches, then hit them, the ejector holes on the bottom and the exhausts with Tamiya Smoke. Some touches over that again with the semi gloss took away the glossy sheen the smoke had.

And that pretty much wrapped it up.

This was a great group build. I wasn't rushed but at the same time it moved my progress along to meet the deadline.

Thanks Bish for hosting this great group build! I hope I haven't been too verbose, but I always see posting on FSM to not just show off, but to hopefully pass on some useful information. Thanks again for this opportunity.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 31, 2018 2:23 PM

AA, just had a chance to check out your pics. Thats coming along nicely.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, March 31, 2018 12:14 PM

aa, the the dio looks good.

Eric, nice job on the paintjob. Bit of an understatement. It never ceases to amaze me how much work is involved in making a paint job look not factory fresh.

-Greg

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:38 AM

Thats looking great Eric, love the effect on that. And don't about about any dealines, keep posting your pics until your done.

“Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?”

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  • From: Indiana, USA
Posted by Greg on Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:30 AM

bobbaily

The mask was manufactured by AMLM-picked it up on eBay.  The material is 3M Oramask 810-I Googled it and it is reasonable-would be easy to transfer paper mask to this material and possibly use it more than once-will probably do so when I build a Tamiya kit since they supply the paper mask.

Thanks for the additional info on the masks, Bob.

Armor_Aficionado
I see you guys talking about pre-cut masks. Check out Top Notch Models and Masks on Facebook; Sean Middleton does a nice range of masks, of which I have used on a couple of kits already, and have been pleased with the results. He even does custom work!

...and to you too, aa.

-Greg

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, March 31, 2018 11:18 AM

Eric, that is looking really good.  I wouldn't worry too much about chipping in terms of hard edge, likely just some wearing of paint from the crew walking and climbing about. 

Hope you will do some weathering on the roundels to match the black basing.  I've seen a few builds from other people where they weathered the paint surfaces and left pristine decals - but suppose the effect still looks cool.

regards,

Jack

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  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Saturday, March 31, 2018 8:46 AM

Wow too cool ! it reminds me of raiders of the lost ark (in airline colors) . Confused

 

Nick.

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