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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, September 10, 2018 11:30 AM

Bsyamato: Super job there - beautiful!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by taxtp on Thursday, September 13, 2018 6:20 PM

Looks great BSY.

Cheers

Tony

I'm just taking it one GB at a time.

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Posted by bsyamato on Friday, September 14, 2018 8:30 AM

Thanks :)

so, after lost the side radiator a new one was scratched from a large squared sprue and plastic beams

 

 

So he is finished, just need to check about possible lights to paint

 

 

 

 

 

Asap final pictures

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, September 14, 2018 11:23 AM

Looks great!!! Love the 'wooden' prop! 

 

Ready to get you posted as soon as you get the finished photos up! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by lostagain on Saturday, September 22, 2018 5:20 PM

Great work bsyamato. Nice recovery on the radiator, that looks like it could be off the kit. The finished colour looks great, the motor and prop have come up really well. I need to go back through your build - I have the Nichimo 1/48 kit in the stash!

But not for this build - this time I am making the Fujimi KV 107 Shirasagi (1/72)

Got exited and stuck a few bits together around the tail, there are many little panels that go together - fujimi must have a few variants available. It's not too clear in the photo but the exhaust is one panel and the back third of the tail is another. the halves were taped together to try and align them as best as possible, but I always seemed to push something else out somewhere...

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, September 23, 2018 3:21 PM

Oh wow, now that's one I haven't seen before. Looking forward to watching you build her.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:49 AM

Nice to see here an helo Bow Down my kavasaki (hobbycraft conversion from one of old japan GB) is already freezed !

 

I forget about but i have also a jap helo currently on the table

 

 

 

Not sure to finish for this GB but i'll try :)

Obliviously in the japanese white and grey colors!

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, September 25, 2018 7:36 AM

Neat, that's very cool too! 

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Posted by lostagain on Saturday, September 29, 2018 6:56 PM

Hey BSY,

That looks huge! Good to see it come along.

Can you post a picture of the old Kawasaki helo?

This photo shows the seam in the tail a bit better. It is curved, so the surface on the left is convex, the right is concave. My poor assembly had left me with a bit of filling and sanding, especially given a gloss finish...

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 01, 2018 11:40 AM

Hmmmmmm, looking forward to seeing how you deal with this. 

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Posted by bsyamato on Wednesday, October 03, 2018 4:02 AM

lostagain

Hey BSY,

That looks huge! Good to see it come along.

Can you post a picture of the old Kawasaki helo?

This photo shows the seam in the tail a bit better. It is curved, so the surface on the left is convex, the right is concave. My poor assembly had left me with a bit of filling and sanding, especially given a gloss finish...

 

 

Nope, the Dragon is big, these and the mi-10 are huge Big Smile

 

 

About the Kawasaki (coversion from ch-46E/F hobby boss) all actually pictures are here:

 

https://flic.kr/s/aHsk7V9FBg

 

not yet finished.

I collected some reference pictures about the japan version , if you need it i can email them

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, October 03, 2018 11:52 AM

Oh wow, that is a big honking chopper! 

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Posted by TheWaggishAmerican on Thursday, October 04, 2018 10:12 AM

I don't know how I missed this one! 

Put me down as in, please. I'll be doing Tamiya's 1/48 Ki-84.

-TWA

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On the Bench- Academy 1/72 OV-10, 1/32 Fiesler Storch, Tamiya 1/48 Ki-84, Tamiya Spitfire Mk V, Eduard 1/48 Type 16 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 04, 2018 10:30 AM

TheWaggishAmerican

I don't know how I missed this one! 

Put me down as in, please. I'll be doing Tamiya's 1/48 Ki-84.

-TWA

 

Hey welcome aboard!!! 

I do have to caution you the GB ends with the end of the year- but you're welcome to roll it over into Japanese Group Build VIII starting on Jan 1, 2019. Or you could just wait- either way you want to go. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TheWaggishAmerican on Thursday, October 04, 2018 3:57 PM

Gamera

 

I do have to caution you the GB ends with the end of the year- but you're welcome to roll it over into Japanese Group Build VIII starting on Jan 1, 2019. Or you could just wait- either way you want to go. 

 

 
I'm not nearly as much as an artisan as some of you are- it'll be done in time!

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On the Bench- Academy 1/72 OV-10, 1/32 Fiesler Storch, Tamiya 1/48 Ki-84, Tamiya Spitfire Mk V, Eduard 1/48 Type 16 

 

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Posted by lostagain on Thursday, October 04, 2018 7:20 PM

Wow BSY, you really are going for the HUGE chopper collection aren't you?

Thanks for the link to your Kawasaki build, this one will not be anywhere near as detailed as your own - just out of the box and concentrate on the colour scheme this time! You are putting in a lot of work there, detailing all the dials and cabling them in is a huge task - mine has a hollow back which I am trusting the canopy framing will hide - time will tell. And I like your addition for the sound insulation in the cabin - what is that material?

So far I have put the office together and stuck it on the hold ramp

The IP is detailed with decals, but I didn't take a photo before installation, this is as good as it gets:

And I put some Tamiya can primer over the tail, then the firat coat of gloss white - it is going to take a few coats yet...

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, October 04, 2018 9:15 PM

TheWaggishAmerican
I'm not nearly as much as an artisan as some of you are- it'll be done in time!

That's a good one LOL. I've see your work.

Steve

ON THE BENCH

1/48 Tamiya Mk.1 Swordfish
1/350 Tamiya Prince of Wales
1/200 AMT Saturn V

In Que

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 05, 2018 7:52 AM

LA: Love that cockpit! Nice work all around but really stands out. 

 

TWA: Yeah, you're a better modeler than I am! I'll go put you down now. Welcome aboard! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TheWaggishAmerican on Saturday, October 06, 2018 10:31 AM

I got started last night/early this morning. I'm not going for accuracy in the details here- for one thing, references on the Ki84 seem very difficult to find, and for another, what the kit gives you to work with is so miserable it's not even worth it unless you've got a resin replacement or something. Anyway, here's what I've done so far. 

First up, cockpit floor. I cut a replacement rear bulkhead out of sheet styrene- the kit provides a solid piece, which is totally incorrect. I cut this to at least look a bit closer to correct. You can't really see it behind the seat, so I didn't spend too much time on it. The other massive error on the floor is the strange pedals. Besides being sized for what looked like a 72nd scale figure, they were at a ludicrous angle. I used the kit figure to cut better sized rudder pedals. They are a tad large, but are hidden beneath the IP, so I they'll do the job. 

Under primer, and after I added a couple more details. I based this off of pictures of an aftermarket cockpit set. The only notable features I could easily add were what looked like an oxegyn bottle (chopped up cannon from old Gecko kit) and and a lever on the left. I'm pretty sure that this is supposed to be represnted by the kit on the sidewall, but it doesn't stick out nearly enough. I cut an old piece of throttle quadrant from a b-25 to fill the space.

One of the two big things I wanted to fix was the kits seat. The kit's seat is awful- it is rectangular, and the sides don't meld- it doesn't have a pad on the seat, and has a very deep ejector pin mark right on the seat. I cut the seat down to a more proper curve, and resanded the sides. I filled the center of the seat with a piece of styrene, which both fixed the pinproblem and serves as pad. I marked and drilled holes into the seat by spinning an exacto blade, and cut a very thin piece of styrene to match some pictures I found of the seat back. Belts where made from two pieces of tamiya tape on top of each other, with the ends superglued down. 

Under primer

This was the other big thing I wanted to fix. The kit's solution to the IP was a solid piece, half in each side of the fuselage, and a large decal to be applied by cutting it in half before attaching the two sides. Ki 84 very noticably have open segments behind the machine guns. To fix this, I cut out everything except the bottom rail, and sanded smooth. I photocopied the decal sheet, and cut out the outline of the actual panel from two pieces of sheet styrene glued together. It'll get it glued in once the fuselage is assembled. 

I also added a fuel line to the side of the cockpit, but I don't have a picture of that. I've got to let primer set, and then I'll get her painted. I'm thinking of using the green for this one- or do a late model and go natural metal. I haven't decided yet. 

-TWA

youtube.com/c/thewaggishamerican

On the Bench- Academy 1/72 OV-10, 1/32 Fiesler Storch, Tamiya 1/48 Ki-84, Tamiya Spitfire Mk V, Eduard 1/48 Type 16 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, October 07, 2018 5:49 PM

Looks great!!! Big improvement!

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Posted by TheWaggishAmerican on Thursday, October 18, 2018 6:30 PM

Got the pit painted up, and the engine done as well. I went with natural metal, just because it's a unique finish. I was reading online that apparently this kit is actually 1/50, not 1/48. That, with the terrible raised detail and my lack of a razor saw, and I've decided that I don't particularly care about 'reality' for this project. I'm just going to do with it what I think looks decent, so it's this cockpit with the "Rabbit 24" decal option. Also, I'm planning on painting my own hinoumarus, so if anyone has a Tamiya mix for that particular red that would be super helpful. 

Engine was done with painting black first and using silver powder after. I like this technique, but I went a bit heavy of it. 

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On the Bench- Academy 1/72 OV-10, 1/32 Fiesler Storch, Tamiya 1/48 Ki-84, Tamiya Spitfire Mk V, Eduard 1/48 Type 16 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 18, 2018 6:58 PM

TWA: Nakajima interior colour is a greyish-green- I use RAF interior green. I can't really tell any difference. But considering how fast the Japanese were churning equipment at the end of the war like the Germans I wouldn't be surprised that some were left in natural aluminum. And what you've got looks great! Yes

I've never painted my own hinomara but I think a slightly dark red should be right or close to it.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by TheWaggishAmerican on Friday, October 19, 2018 6:46 PM

Gamera

TWA: Nakajima interior colour is a greyish-green- I use RAF interior green. I can't really tell any difference. But considering how fast the Japanese were churning equipment at the end of the war like the Germans I wouldn't be surprised that some were left in natural aluminum. And what you've got looks great! Yes

That's my thought process! I was basing this on a couple of old forum posts both on here and on the ARC forum. Apparently early ones where in the Nakajima color, mid-production was in aotake, and some late production was natural metal. Problem is, those late production one's would have been natural metal overall, and I'm planning on doing the grey/green.  

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On the Bench- Academy 1/72 OV-10, 1/32 Fiesler Storch, Tamiya 1/48 Ki-84, Tamiya Spitfire Mk V, Eduard 1/48 Type 16 

 

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Saturday, October 20, 2018 4:02 AM

Progress continues on the Tony:

https://www.flickr.com/gp/46691913@N03/wLd176

 

 

 

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Saturday, October 20, 2018 4:28 AM

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, October 21, 2018 2:29 PM

AA: Looks good! Nice to see her all together and ready for paint!

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Wednesday, October 24, 2018 3:45 PM

Thanks, Gamera, now she‘s got some paint on her:

https://pin.it/upkk5lzokhs5rd

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 25, 2018 8:09 AM

The natural metal looks perfect! And nice work there on the yellow leading edge ID stripes. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Texas Tbone on Thursday, October 25, 2018 11:41 PM

count me in for Tamiya a6m3 zero

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 26, 2018 7:51 AM

Texas Tbone

count me in for Tamiya a6m3 zero

 

As I told The Waggish American the GB does end at the end of the year. If you're going to finish by then or are willing to roll your Zero over into the next Japanese GB you're good. In any case we're happy to have you, just a word of warning there. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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