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  • Member since
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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, December 9, 2018 12:57 PM

Looking very good, Bish!

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 9, 2018 1:34 PM

Thanks check.

One of the reasons for the delay in an update is that i am doing 3 kits at once. As well as the Blenhiem for the bomber GB, i have also finally re-started the Apache. I finally gave up trying to get a replacment canopy and i caved in and got another kit. I am thibnking one day i might be able to do that with folded rotors and perhaps a tarp ove rthe canopy.

So, after taking the new canopy out of the box, i very carefully got it fitted.

And got all the final bits added and ready for paint.

At this point i realised that the Montex mask i got would not fit as its for the older Academy AH-64A, that will teach me for being cheap. rather than fork out for the correct Eduard one, and have to wait several days for it, i just used liquid mask, primed and painted with Xtracoloy US Helo Drab.

Now i can get the markings on and hopfully finish this off.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, December 9, 2018 3:04 PM

Steve & Bish: Those are coming along great guys!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, December 9, 2018 3:41 PM

Bish
I am thibnking one day i might be able to do that with folded rotors and perhaps a tarp ove rthe canopy.

Tarps fix everything. Big Smile

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, December 9, 2018 3:44 PM

Cheers guys.

Steve, your not wrong. Only problem is i can't find any evidance that they are used, but what the hell. there is also the minor issue of folding the rotors.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by lostagain on Sunday, December 9, 2018 5:56 PM

 

Bish, good to see the Apache has been revived. The other alternative with the old one is to do a gangsta Apache with mirrored canopy…

 

And a mossie too – and it is coming along at a great pace, you must have had a busy weekend. The bomb trolley looks interesting, is it cast meatal and PE?

 

Steve, the Swordfish is looking great. I picked up the same kit, but the transparent special edition, not sure I want to do that though. So I have been following your build with interest. What is your opinion of the PE rigging set? Nice to have or need to have?

 

CMK, the Hurricane is a ripper, paint job is fantastic. I couldn’t tell it was a 1/72 kit, great job there!

 

Theuns, great work with the Mirage – you always bring us different subjects, great to see.

 

CN, your swordfish has come up really well, good to see the different scheme on diplay.

 

Early on Bish, I suggested an X-Wing in Singapore colours. As it happens I can’t back it up as I have neither the kit or the decals. To make it up, I will do a Corellian Freighter in Ugandan markings. Bandai, tiny scale. Then I will get something RAAF out of the stash.

Preshaded:

And coloured (greyed) in:

Cheers

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, December 9, 2018 6:06 PM

Lost,

a Correllian Freighter, intresting. 

The PE rigging, while not nessesary, is very nice. If you get it, pay attention and read ahead to insure you install it at the proper moment. The set also comes with engine details.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, December 10, 2018 2:20 AM

LA, i was looking forward to that X-Wing, maybe youcan do that at a future date. But the falcon makes a nice replacment.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by damouav on Monday, December 10, 2018 2:43 AM

Check - Great work mate, it came up a treat. I need to get me one of those one of these days.

Steve - Nice progress.

Bish - Doubling down! I cant get one model completed... Work getting in the way of life, but financiers  my hobby (s).

 

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1/48 Tamiya P47-D Bubbletop
1/48 Hobby Boss TBF-1C Avenger (on hold)
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1/48 Roden S.E.5a
1/48 Airfix Walrus
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, December 10, 2018 7:26 AM

Tripling down really, i also have the Blenheim under. I only normally work on one at a time. But i have decided where i have build that at least use the same paint, i will build 2 at once. But it doesn't really make it any faster.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, December 10, 2018 9:50 AM

Bish
But it doesn't really make it any faster.

No, it doesn't really. 

I'm frustratingly installing the Swordfish's rigging, this would have not been a problem if I had read ahead and installed them prior to assembling the wings. It's kinda counterintuitive. The silly thing is they work as advertised. I'll get them tacked down, then turn the model over and gravity will move the wings microscopicly and break the joints. Or the other way around, the rigging will bend just enough to not be tight if flipped over.

It's funny and fascinating to watch, an exercise in engineering. They really do their job. That's me though, I'm fascinated with stressors and how to counter them like on a bridge...or bi-plane.

No real pictures that would look much different. 

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, December 10, 2018 10:10 AM

I think when to add the rigging on biplanes is a tough one. The problem with installing the rigging first is you have to paint the wings, unless you plan on masking the rigging of course Big Smile and then fit everything together. I plan on doing the Airfix Gladiator next year, so will have to check the instructions and see what they suggest for that one.

 

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, December 10, 2018 11:20 AM

Ouch, I never even thought about the rigging breaking loose over the wings moving a nanometer or so when flipping her over! Indifferent

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, December 10, 2018 11:25 AM

Gamera

Ouch, I never even thought about the rigging breaking loose over the wings moving a nanometer or so when flipping her over! Indifferent

 

Yeah, it's a trip to watch.

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, December 10, 2018 4:08 PM

Sharp-looking helicopter, Bish.  Nice paint work!  Is it one of the newer Airfix Blenheims you're building?  I've got two of them, and it would be educational to see how they go together.

Thanks, lost!  I appreciate the comment.  Great effect on the Falcon.

Thanks, damouav.  Airfix's latest Hurricane is a very good little kit.  I'm looking forward to doing another one.  I think you'll like it when you get one.

On the subject of rigging biplanes, the last one I built was the old Airfix Gladiator.  I rigged it before adding the top wing, and when I did add it--the rigging sagged all out of alignment.  I had to remove it and start over.

So this would be another educational subject I'd be interested in.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Monday, December 10, 2018 5:26 PM

I've got a feeling that I would have a biplane sliding down the wall if the rigging popped loose when I turned her over....

Haven't forgot this GB...Got the Cat ready for the paint shop, and lucky me, only 2 colors and then brush some interior green in the float recesses on the wings.

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:28 AM

Thanks check, and no, the Blenheim is the old MPM kit. Interesting build Big Smile

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 2:29 AM

Looks good GH, thats a lot of aircarft to paint.

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Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 11:19 AM

GH: Looks cool! I gotta build a 'Cat someday... 

Piers: Somehow I missed you, very cool! Looking forward to seeing how you do the insignia. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: AandF in the Badger State
Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:01 PM

Construction of the Catalina is looking good, goldhammer!  Looks like it took a lot of seam work.  Nice job.

 

 

 

 

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  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, December 11, 2018 4:32 PM

For as an old a kit as it is, not too bad.  Mostly a little flash on the edges.

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:53 PM
Been locked out recently - it was a Firefox problem this time, not the forum's. Or so I hope. Not sure about the mini-thread going on about the Blenheim but Foley just gave a thumbs up for the new 1/48 Airfix version. A 1/48 Blenheim would be a good sized kit - I did a 1/48 Beaufighter and it was very large - I'd guess a Blenheim would be bigger. (I want their new Wellington - ugly but very good history.) Eric

 

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, December 13, 2018 5:53 PM

  RAFCald by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  iprr! by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 OK: the Airfix Tomahawk is a wrap. Here are the specs:

Paint: Golden High Flow Acrylics (Azure, Middlestone, Dark Earth mixes)

Weathering: Salt fading, Wilder & Gamblin oils, Iwata Com.Art (panel lines and fluids), Prisomcolor pencils (panel lines)

The Kit: By and large this was a very good kit. I think some modelers, especially Eduard fans, might find the surface detail a little sparse, but I thought it was fine. The fit was quite good - the cockpit slid into the fuselage perfectly, the landing gear was a snap, very little filler needed. The instructions are very good, although Humbrol paint call-outs are a pain. Some of the smaller fits were a headache because Airfix tried to try Tamiya style engineering without their engineers. The machine guns were a good example: they're molded to fit into a slot so they're straight and properly aligned. Good, but they don't fit, so you end up eyeballing it anyway. Tamiya it isn't. I would pay the extra for a Tamiya kit. However, Airfix has been putting out some very interesting kits - like this one - and Tamiya doesn't have one. So I'm hoping the other "new" Airfix kits I have will also work (HE-111, Hurricane, JU-87B and the C-47 on deck for the C-47/DC3 GB).

 I may do a full build write up if I get the energy for the Aircraft Forum. If not, I've detailed the weathering in earlier posts. A quick summary - the kit was done using "black basing" that aims to create a very irregular and mottled finish. As this was a Desert AF Tomahawk, heavy duty fading was in order - salt fading and oils did the trick. One reason to black base is to get away from pre-shading and the often over emphasized panel lines that result. I did them with Iwata Com.Art "Transparent Smoke" paint which gives an indistinct image of minor panel lines and adds a coarse grime to the the surface that's not easy to see, but emphasizes the fade especially when the final matte varnish is applied. And, as this was a desert plane, I gave it a very light coating with loose Gamblin pigments at the end. (BTW: I use Windsor Newton Matte Varnish which is $9 but is simply super - that bottle will last for many kits. Thin with Gunze or Tamiya lacquer thinner. The matte "eggshell" effect is great.)

 The decals were a problem because I got the Airfix US P-40B and not the Airfix Tomahawk which wasn't out when purchased. A pity because early war RAF markings are different in size than anything I had on hand, so I had to raid three different kits for the roundels. The proper markings required aftermarket. So I got a set of decals and masks from the Polish company Montex for a Tomahawk wearing the colors of Clive "Killer" Caldwell: Caldwell and his Tomahawk are above. (I don't usually do personal planes, but no choice here. And Caldwell was the allied "top gun" in the desert and all-time P-40 ace with 22 victories. He added another five, I think, when flying Spitfires out of Darwin - a campaign that started very badly for the RAAF. Anyway, Montex provided stencils, not decals, which I used for the large plane ID markings. The masks were pretty good - on par with Eduard.

 The P-40 was a good plane for Desert Air Force. The P-40B/C were given the name Tomahawk (they've got the sharp snout with twin mgs over the prop), the P-40E were Kittyhawks (different snout, six mgs on the wings). Either were better fighters than the Hurricane which had it's one day in the sun during the summer of 1940. (Had the RAF had nothing but Hurricanes, the BoB would have been a very tough nut. The Hurricane matched up badly with the 109 and could barely match the speed of the 110 at high altitude. It had an airframe that was really from the early 30s and that hurt. It proved a fine strafer when fitted with 20 or even 40mm cannon until superseded by the Typhoon.) P-40s also matched up pretty well with Macchis and 109s. On paper the bad guys were superior, but in the dust and heat of the desert, both Axis machines (and the Spit) required modifications which hurt performance. Also, when flying in bad conditions, no airplane matched "paper specs" - another advantage for the Detroit Iron school of military aviation. The Tomahawks began to appear in early 1941 and were used until late 1942 when Kittyhawks slowly replaced them. (Caldwell flew both.)

 The desert would have been one of the worst environments for combat aircraft. The sun would do a number on the matte paints of that era - fading them in record time. (Paints weren't very good then, and some pigments like cadmium were allocated to other strategic uses, so even a new plane would wear fast in Libya.) And then there was the sand. I've talked to several vets of the Egypt/Libya and Tunisia and everyone remembers the dust, sand, dirt and flies. One guy told me the dust and sand got into everything - it was literally in the water. So I've looked at hundreds of desert theater aircraft in the last few weeks and they were a worn bunch. Obviously, how worn would vary. Planes lost were replaced with new ones. But in the early war, ground crew kept planes in the air that in 1944 would have gone to the scrap heap. One thing that you often notice are fluids - not always obvious where they come from. The exhaust pattern on P-40s was down and to the rear in a kind of arc - what I've got is about right I think. And, because there were guns, an engine, the exhaust system and fuel lines up front, the front end was pretty soiled. Here are some pics that inspired the "heavy weather" I applied.

  RAF6 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  RAFcol by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  RAAF2 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  RAF4 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 Here are some pics of my model. These detail shots - which you don't see looking at the kit from two feet away - show a closeup of the muli-layer weathering. It takes real time to make something look bad.

 wngdet by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  browndet by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 Here are some pics of the plane. I put it on a simple stand that I painted sand. I have no space for plane dios anyway. And I ran into one ugly trouble. I've got a very good Panasonic "point and shoot" camera, but for reasons that I can't figure, it didn't render the middlestone camo color well. In point of fact, there is green in RAF Middlestone, but the Panasonic amplified it. (So did a Nikon and a Canon.) I took a few thousand photos, or close, under different lighting etc and found I got closest to true color under a flash. So I had my wife use her iPhone 6S, and the color is almost perfect - a kind of tan with the slightest hint of green. There's a little sacrificed in detail, but it gives a good rendition. Just for kicks, the first pic below - a left side profile - came from my camera and the greenish tint on the middlestone is quite evident. The others are from the iPhone: the difference in color is easily seen. I really do have to figure this out. (Any ideas would be welcome.)

  left3! by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  iplr3 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 ipr by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  iprft by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  ipright2 by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

  iplftft by Eric Bergerud, on Flickr

 Eric

 

 

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, December 14, 2018 7:44 AM

Eric: Wow that's fantastic!!! I've never built anything that worn and weathered- love the look esp the close-ups of the wings. Heart

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  • From: Barrie, Ontario
Posted by Cdn Colin on Saturday, December 15, 2018 8:49 AM

Some very impressive builds.  Here's my finished Spitfire.  I used a Molotow Liquid Chrome marker to back the landing light and I'm happy with the results.  I also used it behind clear Tamiya colours for the navigation lights.

I build 1/48 scale WW2 fighters.

Have fun.

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  • From: ON, Canada
Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, December 15, 2018 9:48 AM

Eric, great build - for sure have achieved the look of a well weathered airframe.Yes


As for photographing and capturing colours correctly, I find natural lighting the best.  Anything extra in terms of artificial lighting will result in colour shifts.   You can always try to somewhat correct the colour in your favourite photo shop software.


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Colin, a fine rendition of a Malta based Spitfire. Yes

regards,
Jack

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 15, 2018 11:48 AM

Got both you guys added to the copmpleted list, thank you very much.

Eric, a great rendition of a very well weathered aircraft, some very nice work.

Colin, great job on the Spit. For some reason i don't have it on the roster. can you remind me which kit it is please.

 

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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  • From: Barrie, Ontario
Posted by Cdn Colin on Saturday, December 15, 2018 4:15 PM

The Spitfire is the new Airfix Vb in 1/48 scale.

I build 1/48 scale WW2 fighters.

Have fun.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, December 15, 2018 4:21 PM

Thanks Colin.

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On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Griffin25 on Sunday, December 16, 2018 2:40 PM

Great Tomahawk and Spitfire Eric and Colin! I have been piddling around. I've got the pit mostly done. It's hard to get in there for pics. I don't even know why I bothered with PE foot pedals. My girlfriend got me Indy Niedel's desk from the Youtube series "The Great War" for my birthday. It will be my new modeling desk. I was pretty flabergasted. I've been making her watch that show for 4 years! LOL. Pretty cool gift.  










 

 

Griffin

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