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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 11, 2019 11:40 AM

Clemens: Actually repairs are coming along pretty well. I don't think it will be that noticable under paint. I'll see about getting some photos up soon. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, February 11, 2019 8:38 PM

That's good to hear!

I just had a quick look at my Leopard 2 kit in the box and it should be a pretty straight forward build (the base kit that is).

I am thinking about picking up a set of Leopard Workshop resin wheels for it however. The back of the Tamiya wheels is completely void of detail and on the Leopard 2 you can actually kinda see that...

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  • From: denver, colorado
Posted by waynec on Monday, February 11, 2019 9:44 PM

SchattenSpartan

That's good to hear!

I just had a quick look at my Leopard 2 kit in the box and it should be a pretty straight forward build (the base kit that is).

I am thinking about picking up a set of Leopard Workshop resin wheels for it however. The back of the Tamiya wheels is completely void of detail and on the Leopard 2 you can actually kinda see that...

 

That is what dried mud is for and a lot cheaper. my old Tamiya motorized Salidin BR 6x6 is going to get some serious mud practice.

"Nikto ne Zabyt . Nichto ne Zabyto.

"No one is forgotten. Nothing is forgotten."

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, February 11, 2019 11:54 PM

waynec
That is what dried mud is for and a lot cheaper. my old Tamiya motorized Salidin BR 6x6 is going to get some serious mud practice.

While that is a very good idea, it simply isn't the look I'm going for with this build.

I'll try to replicate these photos as closely as possible including the dirt on the tank:

The hull is obviously a dirt covered mess, but it looks like it's a really thin layer and considering the tracks are exceptionally clean as well, I doubt the roadwheels would be caked in mud.

That being said, I still won't be buying the Leopard Workshop wheel set. If I display the model on a base that roughly matches this photo (which I'll do eventually) the tall grass should be more than enough to hide the back of the roadwheels.

My biggest concern were the rear surfaces of the idler wheels, but that giant tarp draped over the hull front is also going to conceal those completely. Big Smile

Thanks for making me look at my reference photos again! Wink

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, March 30, 2019 11:31 AM

Gee a whole month since the last post!?!?!?

Anyway the Abrams has the base coat on, going to hit the colour modulation soon.

Some work done on the figures. The Abrams has a crew of four so I've got an extra guy I can swap around to see what I like best.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Saturday, March 30, 2019 4:42 PM

I have been working on other projects lately. I will resume mine after I finish my B-25. 

   

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, March 31, 2019 10:29 AM

Looking really good there, Cliff!

I am currently messing around with my Panther G project again, but once the construction on that one is complete, I'm going to start on my Leopard 2.

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  • From: denver, colorado
Posted by waynec on Friday, April 05, 2019 9:34 PM

lwork on LYNX. a friend is doing one too for our theme (NAFTA) at RobWolf IPMS annual club contest. Given how much i got going on may do 1 color Mexican instead of 2 color camo. Tires are either rubber or 3 piece plastic. i am going with the plastic.

PS My Holt 75 artillery tractor done up as a civilian took first i commercial and best of automotive at local contest. 4 other modes placed too. guess i am half way decent at this model stuffIndifferent

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"No one is forgotten. Nothing is forgotten."

 

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, April 06, 2019 7:09 PM

Wayne: Big congrads on your wins!!!

And nice work on the war wheel.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 07, 2019 9:15 AM

Made a start on the 432 a couple of days ago. As far as i know, this is the first kit in this scale in plastic of this vehicle. The only option before this was the Accurate Armour resin kits.

First look at this kit showed that the detail is superb, both inside and out. Whats there is spot on. Of course, as with any kit, there are isues. Most are minor and many people would probably not even notice. But, for those who may be interested, i will point them out as i go along.

And one of those issues was obvious as son as i looked at the instruction. Step 2 has you fit the tillers, and they show them with the right tiller forward and the left tiller slightly back.

They can be positioned in any position you like, but the instructions don't indicate this. Without a driver in the seat, the only way to show them for me is both back with the brakes on. Easy fix.

I knew before i started that painting the interiour after it was built would be tricky, especially the driver/comanders compartment. Fortunatly the kit is made in such a way that sections can be put together and painted before fitting. In the hull, i added the panels on the lwer side walls as well as the panels around the back which goes around the fuel tanks.

The first section i put together was the front wall of the main compartment with the left side of the crew compartment. As i mentioned, the detail thats there is first class. But one problem is whats not included. The box at the front should hold the drivers night driving device. This is not included.

And for a vehcile in use in the 90's, there should be a stowage rack for the driver and commanders SA-80's. I had to scratch a lever for the gear range selector as the kit one flew off my tweezers into the great beyond.

The kit does come with some pretty lethal looking pour stubs. Most are not an issue, but a few are. The are the upper sides of the hulls, the middle stub on the upper piece and the one on the lower piece are both in visible areas.

As are theres around the hole for the rear door.

Once cleaned up, the upper sides were fitted.

Made a start oin one of the Masterclub tracks. These are nice and go together well, and the detail is perfect. better than Fruils IMHO. I have lost a couple of the resin tracks pins but hopefully have enough spare.

And finally a small selection of bits and pieces that will be painted before fitting. The kit does come with parts which would allow you to build different configirations as well as vehicles from different times. But as with the tillers, the instructions don't tell you this. It comes with 4 radios, though they tell you to fit 3 but then tell you to fit 4 antenna mounts Confused. I will just be useing 1 radio and antenna.

Enjoying this so far, goes together well. My guess is that the issues will be down to the vehicle they used as a referance source, but they don't seem to have looked any futher. But nothing major.

 

 

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 07, 2019 3:55 PM

Bish: Looks great! I'm beginning to really love Takom's line of kits. And neat to get a behind the scenes view as it were from your service on the real thing.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 08, 2019 1:48 PM

Thanks G. This is the first of theres i have built, i do have one of there Chieftan kits as well. But i am already seeing the attraction with there stuff.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:51 PM

Here is my work so far:

I have finished construction and am working on the base now.

   

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 21, 2019 5:28 PM

Before I post my next update pics, a bit of background into the vehicle I am doing which will help explain why I am building it this way. In April 1995, my Battalion, 1 KORBR, moved from Londonderry to Catterick and began converting to the Armoured Infantry role. I was in the Anti-Tank Platoon, equipped with the MILAN wire guided missile system. We were supplied with a bunch of 432’s which had clearly seen better days. Even though I was not a qualified driver at the time, I along with a few other guys spent many hours getting the vehicles in reasonable condition. All of the hatch seals had corroded and it looked like the vehicles had been stored outside for some time. We never did quite eradicate the lovely aroma of odeur de stagnant oil and water. The vehicles seemed to have been a rag tag assortment equipped for various roles which meant we had to remove radio frames and various other bits of equipment.
 
So, when it comes to the kit, it provides the options i need, partly i think by error. The fit options and colours are based on the instructions, the few pics i could find and my 20+ year old memory (not the most reliable of sources). My understanding is that the forward compartment was always painted white with the rear in bare metal. This was painted white at a later date, probably during a base overhaul. But i am positive ours where still bare metal, so thats the option i went for. All paints are Tamiya acrylics.
 
 
 
 
Then the padding was painted, ours was in a por condition with holes and tears all over, but i decided not to replicate this. Then the floor was dirtied up useing AK's engine oil and engine grime mixed with some dark pigments.
 
 
I was really pleased with how that came out.
 
With the smaller parts painted, the interiour was fitted out. When i went to fit the drivers seat, i realised that the tillers were to far back. No major isue bending them forward a bit, but would recomend building the seat and dry fitting before adding the tillers.
 
The kit includes 3 battery boxes, but no radio fit in the rear of the vehicle (I have found pics of a 432 with a similar layout which may be the one they used).  One of the battery boxes is a base and lid in one piece, this is intended to go under the commander’s seat. But i am positive our vehicles did not have these so I have used this to replace the main vehicle batteries. This goes to the right of the driver and the kit does not supply a lid, not a good idea when its right next to the drivers elbow.  So I have modified the complete box but cutting and fitting the top of the batteries inside.
 
The 3rd battery box is in the rear on the left side under one of the bench seats. Again going from memory, i am sure our vehicles had this box but without batteries, so after drilling out the interiour i have fitted this.
 
 
 
 
 
The roof was finished off with lights and air ducting.
 
 
And the engine bulkhead and piano boards are done. The painting guide does not show some of the smaller details, such as the cap for the governor oil, botle for the washers and so on, but the few online pics are enough to provid this info.
 
 
And the drivers instruments along with aformentioned washer bottle.
 
 
And the interior almost completed.
 
 
 
 
 
I still have a little to do before i add the roof and front plate. A couple more small bits to fit, some small detail to paint. But mainly adding some wiring. I won't fit the complete wiring harness, but i need to add something as the inside will be very visible. Alos need to come up with some for the drivers seat harness.

 

 

 

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 22, 2019 11:33 AM

Dutchman: Whoops! Somehow I missed your last post- sorry. Looks good! The S-tank is a really cool looking AFV. 

 

Bish: Looks good! I'm not good at modeling the gunk and crud that accumulates in any working vehicle so I tend to go with clean AFVs. What you've got so far looks right to me. Yes

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 22, 2019 1:38 PM

Thanks G. This is the first time i have used this method, mixing pigments with enamels, and i was not sure i could get the right look. But its come out exactly as i remember.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 05, 2019 5:08 PM

Before closeing up the hull, i finished off the weathering by adding a raw umber wash to the sides. This is still understated, i could have spent a week just weathering and it would not have matched how bad our wagons were.

As i am doing a vehicles of our MILAN Plt, i figured i should add a MILAN. I am useing the resin one from Accurate Armour. This is a really nice little kit. In fact, after compareing it to the Hobby Boss one in thier Land Rover kit, i have decided to get another one for that. As well as the detail, the AA kit coems with 6 missiles with end caps and decals. The HB kit gives one with no markings.

With the inside of the vehicles complete, time to add the

roof and front. The roof did need some clamping but it got there. I lost one of the handles to the front engine hatch so replaced it with some rod. Also, the kit does not includ blanking plates for the antenna postions your not useing. So i took the antenna bases and sanding them down and added the bolt heads.

After priming i added the exhaust and side bin and then painted. Everything was done with Tamiya Acrylics.

The MILAN post was also painted and put together.

Now to put the decals together and some weathering.

 

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Sunday, May 05, 2019 6:47 PM

Looking good, Bish! I must ask, how do you like these Takom kits? 

 

I finally started the Merkava. This is my first Takom kit, and I have to say I'm very impressed. Very nice detail, engineered well, and the plastic reminds me of the recent AirFix kits. 

Here are a couple pictures of the top hull, bottom hull and turret

And the suspension finished

Currently working on the road wheels, more progress pictures soon.

 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 05, 2019 7:09 PM

Cheers Bruce. This is my first Takom kit as well and i am also impressed. The level of detail is amazing, but its not over engineered like you might find with Dragon. The fit is superb. There are some small accuracy issues, but i think this is down to what they had access to for referance and i am looking at the kit as somone who used to drive and maintain the real thing.

It deffinetly goes close to the top of my best armour kits list. I'd like to try one of their WW2 German kits.

It loks like the Merkava is of a similar standard, nice work so far.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:03 PM

Bish: Great looking interior and I love the camo paint.

Bruce: Great to see her coming together!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, May 08, 2019 6:58 AM

Thanks, Cliff.

I'm working on the road wheels now, so far 6 of 12 are done. They're 5 parts each to assemble. I didn't think thet were picture worthy! lol But, it is time consuming. 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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  • From: Australia
Posted by lostagain on Saturday, May 18, 2019 4:05 AM

Hello everyone, been watching this GB progress from the back seats, now it is time to come to the front and get involved.

Bish, enjoying the build of the FV432, the detail in the Takom kits looks really good. Your ownership of the vehicle/model makes this an even better subjec.

SD the Stridsvagen has come togehter really well, what a great vehicle.

Cliff, the Abrahms is looking good, really like your figure work

Bruce, looking forard to seeing how th eMerkarva comes out.

And as I promised Clemens, I will be joining the fray with Showcase Model's 1/35 Bushmaster:

 As you can see there is a bit of extra detail from black dog.

It will be kitted out for Afghanistan.

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Saturday, May 18, 2019 7:21 AM

Thanks LA, i have really enjoyed it. Just wrapping it up and should have the final pics tomorrow.

Looking forward to the Bushmaster.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, May 18, 2019 5:10 PM

Thanks Piers, looks cool!!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, May 19, 2019 10:13 AM

Time to wrap up the 432. The kit decals went on nicely but the issue i had was the callsign's and bridgeing plate. In the British army, each company user's a different symbol for its callsign indicator. As i was doing a vehilce of the MILAN Platoon i need the marking for Support Company. While Accurate Armour has a set of yellow callsign markings, they include all the companies apart from Support. So after looking at what i had and woundering if i could modify some thing, i decided to try and print my own.

After figuring out how to draw straight and curved line son paint, i made some i was happy with and printer them out, great. But went i went to place them, the yellow vanished. So then i turned to the forum and got some great advice which boiled down to me having to print on white decal paper. That also meant i had to colour the background to get a close match to the vehicle, one would be on black and on on green.

The decals did come out roug, but for this that was perfect. The callsigns on our vehciles were made useing stencils we did our shelves and then paint was applied with a sponge. So being ham fisted GRUNT's they were never going to be works of art. The decals were a litle thick, what with the decal film and painting to get a closer match, but i was happy with what i had. I hoped the weathering would decal with the slight difference in colour.

The bridge plate was less of an issue as there was no white showing.

Afer sealing, i did some pin washes useing oil paints. The decals for the rear bins were added after this and they were applied to some styrene sheet, painted steel on the back, before fitting.

After this wet pigments were applied followed by some dry dusting and the final bits fitted. The tracks had been painted and weathered off the vehicle. This master tracks are nice but very fiddly. Some one on Brit Modeller suggested useing wire and i can see why. Each link needs 2 resin pins, one each side, and these are a real pain. I am glad there are spares, i must have lost a dozen. Fit was tight but once together the sag was spot on.

Weathering was restrained some what, apart from anything else, i didn't want to cover the callsign decals after all the hassle, i am really pleased with how they look.

With the base ready, the vehicle was attached and final items fitted. The MILAN is a great little kit and i am deffinetly getting anotehr to replace the one in the Hobby Bose Lanny kit. There are 3 more missles inside. There are also 2 bergans and 2 roll mats inside and the 3 helmits on the roof, all from Accurate Armour.

This build does not represent one certain vehicle, unfortunatly i didn't have any pics to work from. But it does represent the vehcile we had to work with. I am really pleased with how its turned out. This is the first time i have built a subject that i was actually trained to operate, in fact its 2 as i was also a MILAN operator firing 5 missiles during 4 years in the MILAN Platoon.

A huge thank you to the guys who helped pout with the decal issue, it really would not have been the same without those little yellow callsigns.

Please feel free to use what ever pic you choose for the front page, and thank for the chance to build this.

 

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Sunday, May 19, 2019 6:26 PM

Looke awesome Bish!!! Love the dirt and mud!

Another advantage of having served on the AFV, I had no idea the stenciling was applyed in such a way. Great to see how well it fits to the real thing.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Sunday, May 19, 2019 7:04 PM

Fantastic work, Bish! Very well done weathering! I love it. 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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  • From: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posted by TigerII on Thursday, May 23, 2019 12:01 AM

Very nicely done Bish. Outstanding weathering on this vehicle.

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, May 23, 2019 3:44 AM

Cheers guys.

G, well, its the British army, everything is done on the cheap.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

''Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?''

On the bench: Airfix 1/600 HMS Belfast/AMT Trade Federation Tank

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    February, 2010
  • From: New Jersey
Posted by 68GT on Friday, May 24, 2019 1:25 PM

Nice job Bish!  I really like it!

On Ed's bench, ???

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