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  • Member since
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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 22, 2019 11:33 AM

Dutchman: Whoops! Somehow I missed your last post- sorry. Looks good! The S-tank is a really cool looking AFV. 

 

Bish: Looks good! I'm not good at modeling the gunk and crud that accumulates in any working vehicle so I tend to go with clean AFVs. What you've got so far looks right to me. Yes

 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 21, 2019 5:28 PM

Before I post my next update pics, a bit of background into the vehicle I am doing which will help explain why I am building it this way. In April 1995, my Battalion, 1 KORBR, moved from Londonderry to Catterick and began converting to the Armoured Infantry role. I was in the Anti-Tank Platoon, equipped with the MILAN wire guided missile system. We were supplied with a bunch of 432’s which had clearly seen better days. Even though I was not a qualified driver at the time, I along with a few other guys spent many hours getting the vehicles in reasonable condition. All of the hatch seals had corroded and it looked like the vehicles had been stored outside for some time. We never did quite eradicate the lovely aroma of odeur de stagnant oil and water. The vehicles seemed to have been a rag tag assortment equipped for various roles which meant we had to remove radio frames and various other bits of equipment.
 
So, when it comes to the kit, it provides the options i need, partly i think by error. The fit options and colours are based on the instructions, the few pics i could find and my 20+ year old memory (not the most reliable of sources). My understanding is that the forward compartment was always painted white with the rear in bare metal. This was painted white at a later date, probably during a base overhaul. But i am positive ours where still bare metal, so thats the option i went for. All paints are Tamiya acrylics.
 
 
 
 
Then the padding was painted, ours was in a por condition with holes and tears all over, but i decided not to replicate this. Then the floor was dirtied up useing AK's engine oil and engine grime mixed with some dark pigments.
 
 
I was really pleased with how that came out.
 
With the smaller parts painted, the interiour was fitted out. When i went to fit the drivers seat, i realised that the tillers were to far back. No major isue bending them forward a bit, but would recomend building the seat and dry fitting before adding the tillers.
 
The kit includes 3 battery boxes, but no radio fit in the rear of the vehicle (I have found pics of a 432 with a similar layout which may be the one they used).  One of the battery boxes is a base and lid in one piece, this is intended to go under the commander’s seat. But i am positive our vehicles did not have these so I have used this to replace the main vehicle batteries. This goes to the right of the driver and the kit does not supply a lid, not a good idea when its right next to the drivers elbow.  So I have modified the complete box but cutting and fitting the top of the batteries inside.
 
The 3rd battery box is in the rear on the left side under one of the bench seats. Again going from memory, i am sure our vehicles had this box but without batteries, so after drilling out the interiour i have fitted this.
 
 
 
 
 
The roof was finished off with lights and air ducting.
 
 
And the engine bulkhead and piano boards are done. The painting guide does not show some of the smaller details, such as the cap for the governor oil, botle for the washers and so on, but the few online pics are enough to provid this info.
 
 
And the drivers instruments along with aformentioned washer bottle.
 
 
And the interior almost completed.
 
 
 
 
 
I still have a little to do before i add the roof and front plate. A couple more small bits to fit, some small detail to paint. But mainly adding some wiring. I won't fit the complete wiring harness, but i need to add something as the inside will be very visible. Alos need to come up with some for the drivers seat harness.

 

 

 

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: ICM 1/35th Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf A

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:51 PM

Here is my work so far:

I have finished construction and am working on the base now.

   

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Monday, April 08, 2019 1:48 PM

Thanks G. This is the first of theres i have built, i do have one of there Chieftan kits as well. But i am already seeing the attraction with there stuff.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: ICM 1/35th Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf A

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, April 07, 2019 3:55 PM

Bish: Looks great! I'm beginning to really love Takom's line of kits. And neat to get a behind the scenes view as it were from your service on the real thing.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 07, 2019 9:15 AM

Made a start on the 432 a couple of days ago. As far as i know, this is the first kit in this scale in plastic of this vehicle. The only option before this was the Accurate Armour resin kits.

First look at this kit showed that the detail is superb, both inside and out. Whats there is spot on. Of course, as with any kit, there are isues. Most are minor and many people would probably not even notice. But, for those who may be interested, i will point them out as i go along.

And one of those issues was obvious as son as i looked at the instruction. Step 2 has you fit the tillers, and they show them with the right tiller forward and the left tiller slightly back.

They can be positioned in any position you like, but the instructions don't indicate this. Without a driver in the seat, the only way to show them for me is both back with the brakes on. Easy fix.

I knew before i started that painting the interiour after it was built would be tricky, especially the driver/comanders compartment. Fortunatly the kit is made in such a way that sections can be put together and painted before fitting. In the hull, i added the panels on the lwer side walls as well as the panels around the back which goes around the fuel tanks.

The first section i put together was the front wall of the main compartment with the left side of the crew compartment. As i mentioned, the detail thats there is first class. But one problem is whats not included. The box at the front should hold the drivers night driving device. This is not included.

And for a vehcile in use in the 90's, there should be a stowage rack for the driver and commanders SA-80's. I had to scratch a lever for the gear range selector as the kit one flew off my tweezers into the great beyond.

The kit does come with some pretty lethal looking pour stubs. Most are not an issue, but a few are. The are the upper sides of the hulls, the middle stub on the upper piece and the one on the lower piece are both in visible areas.

As are theres around the hole for the rear door.

Once cleaned up, the upper sides were fitted.

Made a start oin one of the Masterclub tracks. These are nice and go together well, and the detail is perfect. better than Fruils IMHO. I have lost a couple of the resin tracks pins but hopefully have enough spare.

And finally a small selection of bits and pieces that will be painted before fitting. The kit does come with parts which would allow you to build different configirations as well as vehicles from different times. But as with the tillers, the instructions don't tell you this. It comes with 4 radios, though they tell you to fit 3 but then tell you to fit 4 antenna mounts Confused. I will just be useing 1 radio and antenna.

Enjoying this so far, goes together well. My guess is that the issues will be down to the vehicle they used as a referance source, but they don't seem to have looked any futher. But nothing major.

 

 

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: ICM 1/35th Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf A

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, April 06, 2019 7:09 PM

Wayne: Big congrads on your wins!!!

And nice work on the war wheel.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: denver, colorado
Posted by waynec on Friday, April 05, 2019 9:34 PM

lwork on LYNX. a friend is doing one too for our theme (NAFTA) at RobWolf IPMS annual club contest. Given how much i got going on may do 1 color Mexican instead of 2 color camo. Tires are either rubber or 3 piece plastic. i am going with the plastic.

PS My Holt 75 artillery tractor done up as a civilian took first i commercial and best of automotive at local contest. 4 other modes placed too. guess i am half way decent at this model stuffIndifferent

"Nikto ne Zabyt . Nichto ne Zabyto.

"No one is forgotten. Nothing is forgotten."

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Sunday, March 31, 2019 10:29 AM

Looking really good there, Cliff!

I am currently messing around with my Panther G project again, but once the construction on that one is complete, I'm going to start on my Leopard 2.

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Posted by Sailing_Dutchman on Saturday, March 30, 2019 4:42 PM

I have been working on other projects lately. I will resume mine after I finish my B-25. 

   

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Saturday, March 30, 2019 11:31 AM

Gee a whole month since the last post!?!?!?

Anyway the Abrams has the base coat on, going to hit the colour modulation soon.

Some work done on the figures. The Abrams has a crew of four so I've got an extra guy I can swap around to see what I like best.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, February 11, 2019 11:54 PM

waynec
That is what dried mud is for and a lot cheaper. my old Tamiya motorized Salidin BR 6x6 is going to get some serious mud practice.

While that is a very good idea, it simply isn't the look I'm going for with this build.

I'll try to replicate these photos as closely as possible including the dirt on the tank:

The hull is obviously a dirt covered mess, but it looks like it's a really thin layer and considering the tracks are exceptionally clean as well, I doubt the roadwheels would be caked in mud.

That being said, I still won't be buying the Leopard Workshop wheel set. If I display the model on a base that roughly matches this photo (which I'll do eventually) the tall grass should be more than enough to hide the back of the roadwheels.

My biggest concern were the rear surfaces of the idler wheels, but that giant tarp draped over the hull front is also going to conceal those completely. Big Smile

Thanks for making me look at my reference photos again! Wink

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  • From: denver, colorado
Posted by waynec on Monday, February 11, 2019 9:44 PM

SchattenSpartan

That's good to hear!

I just had a quick look at my Leopard 2 kit in the box and it should be a pretty straight forward build (the base kit that is).

I am thinking about picking up a set of Leopard Workshop resin wheels for it however. The back of the Tamiya wheels is completely void of detail and on the Leopard 2 you can actually kinda see that...

 

That is what dried mud is for and a lot cheaper. my old Tamiya motorized Salidin BR 6x6 is going to get some serious mud practice.

"Nikto ne Zabyt . Nichto ne Zabyto.

"No one is forgotten. Nothing is forgotten."

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Monday, February 11, 2019 8:38 PM

That's good to hear!

I just had a quick look at my Leopard 2 kit in the box and it should be a pretty straight forward build (the base kit that is).

I am thinking about picking up a set of Leopard Workshop resin wheels for it however. The back of the Tamiya wheels is completely void of detail and on the Leopard 2 you can actually kinda see that...

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 11, 2019 11:40 AM

Clemens: Actually repairs are coming along pretty well. I don't think it will be that noticable under paint. I'll see about getting some photos up soon. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 08, 2019 11:00 PM

Ouch, I'm sorry to hear about your accident with the turret.

That battle damage idea actually sounds pretty good to me though, especially your variant with the field repair figures.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 08, 2019 11:20 AM

Gee thanks guys! I didn't think of making it up to look like actual damage.

 

Great idea! 

I am tempted to stick two guys on there with a maul hammer and crowbar trying to straighten the rack back out. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by waynec on Friday, February 08, 2019 10:58 AM

i hate it when that happens. read the book THUNDER RUN by David Zucchino. it talks about some of the Abrams having bussle racks shot off by RPGs and external storage catching fire.

THUNDER RUN BAGHDAD

 

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"No one is forgotten. Nothing is forgotten."

 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Friday, February 08, 2019 9:38 AM

Gamera

Cool! 

 

My Abrams turret fell off a table last week and it smooshed the bustle rack all up. I'm currently trying to rebuild it. We'll see how it goes, if it's bad enough I'll throw a tarp or camo net over the problem areas. Thankfully the rack seemed to have absorbed the shock and there wasn't any other damage. 

 

Hate that happen but depending on the area that's messed up it could be battle damange. I've done it before with mine, it just happen to be on one of the ends of the rack like it would happen if the rurret was turning and the rack hit a wall.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Friday, February 08, 2019 7:40 AM

Cool! 

 

My Abrams turret fell off a table last week and it smooshed the bustle rack all up. I'm currently trying to rebuild it. We'll see how it goes, if it's bad enough I'll throw a tarp or camo net over the problem areas. Thankfully the rack seemed to have absorbed the shock and there wasn't any other damage. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Wednesday, February 06, 2019 7:44 PM

Thanks guys!

I should be able to get started on my Leopard 2 soon (and there's still a Panther I really want to continue working on)

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Posted by TigerII on Monday, February 04, 2019 11:57 PM

Welcome back, Clemens

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 04, 2019 3:32 AM

Good to see you back Clemens.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: ICM 1/35th Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf A

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 03, 2019 8:41 PM

Clemens: Good to have you back!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by SchattenSpartan on Friday, February 01, 2019 8:39 PM

Alright guys, time for me to get back to my duties as your host again (finally).

All is well here, I've just had some issues with logging into the forums and as soon as that got fixed, things became really busy around here which left me with essentially no free time at all. Fortunately, that is all behind me now and I'll be able to spend more time on here again.

First of all, my apologies to everyone who signed up while I was gone. I've added all of you to the build roster. So, Svenne, Nuckss and waynec, welcome aboard! (I hope I didn't miss anyone

Now, time to get caught up on everything going on in here!

Steve: I really like how your Challenger turned out. You really can't tell it's just 1/72 scale.

Svenne: Looks like you're making good progress on your Terminator. Such a mean looking machine.

Regarding those optics and periscopes, what I tend to do is tint the glass with an appropriate clear color and attach some bare metal foil to the inside of the part. However, I haven't tried that yet on a modern vehicle with large optics, just on those tiny WW2 periscopes.

AA: You sure are blasting through your builds here. both the M109 and BMP-2 look really nice. Gotta love those weird Ukrainian camo schemes.

TigerII: Some lovely work on your T-72 as well, a nice clean build!

Nuckss: I'm sorry to hear about your issues with the Alclad Aqua clear. I have a bottle of that stuff myself, but didn't get to try it out yet. I have used their matte clear (it is indeed lacquer based) several times however, and it's by far my favorite final finishing coat to use. Your Type 90 looks really sharp despite your struggles with the clear coat however!

Dutchman: I've updated the roster to include your Strv. I love this unusual little tank.

Ben: You absolutely nailed that splinter camo on your Strv and the weathering really brings those bright colors together to turn them into a proper camouflage pattern.

KC: That Bradley sure is a stunner! It really is a shame most of the interior is hidden once you put all the major hull parts together. I reall like the mismatched ERA blocks on the hull sides.

Cliff: Damn, that's a LOT of wheels. Almost looks German...

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  • From: East Stroudsburg, PA
Posted by TigerII on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 11:47 AM

This is a very nice Bradley. I like the multi-colored blocks on the side skirts. The interior looks very good and it has enough weathering to make you feel like you're in the Iraqi desert.

Achtung Panzer! Colonel General Heinz Guderian
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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 8:36 AM

Thanks guys!!

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  • From: From the Mit, but live in Mason, O high ho
Posted by hogfanfs on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 7:42 AM

KC,

 

I really like how your Bradley turned out. Very well done weathering effects. 

 Bruce

 

 On the bench:  1/48 Eduard MiG-21MF

                        1/35 Takom Merkava Mk.I

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 4:20 AM

That looks really nice KC. The fans on the back are a great addition, does make it stand out.

Great looking build.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: ICM 1/35th Sd.Kfz 251/1 Ausf A

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Posted by PFJN on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 8:04 PM

Hi,

Your build looks great.

1st Group Build

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