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The Race Into Space GB, October 2018 - July 2019

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Posted by hypertex on Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:03 AM

I also have found some interesting lunar module drawings on the web.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4f/Lunar_Module_Equipment_Locations_1_of_2.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/Lunar_Module_Equipment_Locations_2_of_2.jpg

 

If you want to get your rivet counting on, you need to consider that primary strut was designed to compress (without rebound) upon landing and the secondary struts could both compress and expand. Each mission had a different degree of compression. In fact, Apollo 15s descent nozzle buckled due to impact with the lunar surface. If I recall, Apollo 11s primary struts did not appreciably compress, but some of the secondary struts actually expanded a bit. We're only talking a few inches, if that.

I'm no rivet counter myself, but it is an interesting tidbit of information.

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Posted by PFJN on Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:01 AM

Gamera

PF: I'd never even heard of the micro shuttle. At the risk of getting yelled at she's kinda cute! Reminds me of the Hasegawa 'egg plane' shuttle. I had one but traded it away for something else years ago- would have been tempted to build it if I'd kept it now! 

.. 

Hi,

I use the term "cute and cuddly" alot at work.  Whenever anyone gives me a strange look I usually add "you know, in a macho sort of way" Stick out tongue  They usually don't know how to respond to that Big Smile

PF

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:19 AM

PFJN

 

 
Gamera

PF: I'd never even heard of the micro shuttle. At the risk of getting yelled at she's kinda cute! Reminds me of the Hasegawa 'egg plane' shuttle. I had one but traded it away for something else years ago- would have been tempted to build it if I'd kept it now! 

.. 

 

 

Hi,

I use the term "cute and cuddly" alot at work.  Whenever anyone gives me a strange look I usually add "you know, in a macho sort of way" Stick out tongue  They usually don't know how to respond to that Big Smile

PF

 

Lol! Like it! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, October 11, 2018 4:57 PM

I'm not getting email notifications again so I don't get to see any posts until I sit down and look at the forums in the evening, so sorry if I've been a little absent.

No pictures but I filled and sanded down the seams on the Redstone and Atlas. I'm applying primer tonight,

Steve

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Posted by JJFlyer on Thursday, October 11, 2018 5:48 PM
I haven't had time to spend on messing with image hosting sites so no pics as of yet but my 1/144 Saturn V just arrived! will have pics tomorrow if the hurricane doesn't knock our power out. Jamie

current projects:

1/48 Revell bf109 g10

1/144 Revell Apollo Saturn V 

on deck:

unknown scale Revell sr-71 blackbird

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:28 PM

Here is what I got done on the lunar module "legs". Please remember that my LEM decent module is from scratch so my dimensions may be a little different than the regular Monogram kit. My LEM upper and various other peices are the Monogram kit, so I think it will be real close. 

As for the later Revell or Dragon kits, I cannot say, but here it is. Please note that the main strut and pad are kit parts wrapped in foil. I will let the pictures do the talking:

Comments, Input, criticism, or?

Ben

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, October 11, 2018 7:56 PM

Hey Ben-- that is some really nice work that you are doing. I like it...

 

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Posted by Bakster on Thursday, October 11, 2018 8:10 PM

Another fit issue with this kit. The locater pins of the escape tower don't fit into the holes on the escape tower base. Each hole needs drilling out in order to accommodate them. It is a minor problem, but I thought worth mentioning.

Work on the launch stand is in process. Here you can see I have the photo etch formed and applied to the launch tower STAND adaptor ring.

That's all for now.

Updated

PS: I forgot to mention that the adaptor ring shown above had some serious sink marks on the inner part of the ring. A person "might" not see them, but I filled them in anyway. I used CA.

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Thursday, October 11, 2018 9:22 PM

Ben> Glad that drawing was useful.  I must admit, you're doing a great job on that descent stage.  While it may not be exact, I doubt anyone could tell without using laser scanning.  I wonder how close the Monogram LM was to the original anyway!

Hypertex>  Thanks for the LM equipment drawings.  I posted a link to a paper model earlier with a beautifully detailed interior.  Perhaps I'll try putting some interior details into the LM interior (probably not this build, however).  And good point about the compression on the legs.

PFJN> Cute and cuddly ... like a grizzly bear.  Smile

JJFlyer>  No problem, and good luck with the storm!  Odd that it's moving so fast up the east coast.  Perhaps that cold front pushed it faster than expected.

Modelcrazy>  I get updates intermittently.  It's not just you.  Good luck on the Redstone and Atlas Mercurys!

Bakster>  Looking good!  I didn't know it had photo-etch pieces.  It sounds as though this kit has some major design flaws, which considering its price, is a surprise.  I'm sure you'll get it tamed though.

As for me, no new pics at this time.  I've been plugging away at the LES, and while the support structure is done, the tower itself is giving me fits.  I've tried to make the nose section out of paper, tape and clay.  I have also tried applying a skin to the dowel of the main section with little luck, and I've ripped most of this stuff off.  I'm a bit stumped at the moment.  I've decided to visit my local Hobby Lobby and see if I can find some plastic parts that will work (such as a small plastic funnel I can trim to make the skirt around the nozzles).  But that will have to wait until next week.

Meanwhile, I've taken the old, painted parts and put them in a bath of degreaser to see if I can get most of the old paint off.  Not sure how well this stuff is working, but we'll see.  I still have lots I can work on with this model, and the LM is sitting there waiting for assembly.  I'll keep plugging along, although it irks me that I can't finish the part that I started with.  :-(

Saw this on the news today.  Glad the Escape System worked!

https://www.cnet.com/news/nasa-astronaut-russian-cosmonaut-make-emergency-landing-after-soyuz-rocket-failure/


Gary

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:11 PM

GAF and Modelcrazy,

Have you thought of looking into any of the Shapeway products on-line for 3D peices you are trying to replicate? I noticed that they have the LES module for both the Mercury and Gemini "small" AMT kit that Modelcrazy is building. They are done to show the individual rods on the structure versus the solid ones in the kit. Perhaps they would have something in scale for the larger LES you are working GAF?

Just a thought...

Ben

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Posted by GAF on Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:38 PM

Ben> I did check to see if they had anything, but nothing in 1/48th scale.  I have seen a 1/48 scale version of a more accurate LES, but its price was a bit too much.  I could probably score the entire model on Ebay for what they were asking.  I'll just do some checking at the hobby store.  I figure that somewhere there's a bottle cap or something with my name on it.  Smile  Thanks for the suggestion!

Gary

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Posted by PFJN on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:27 AM

GAF
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PFJN>  That would be an interesting variation of the Shuttle.  It's quite acceptable in this GB, as I allow things that would have been on the drawing boards as concept vehicles (variations on a known design). Smile

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Hi,

Since I couldn't find my putty last nite to work on my X-24 build I decided to look into maybe also doing this mini shuttle conversion for this group build as well.

I checked my math and was able to confirm that the dimensions appear to suggest that if I use my 1/200 scale Lindberg kit as a starting point my mini shuttle model will come out almost exactly 1/60 scale (based on the limited info that I have).  So I started making plans on what I would likely need to change, as shown in the image below.

Shuttle Comp

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Based on the info above I went ahead and started cutting up the model, as shown below.

Cuts

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Cuts2

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The bottom picture above shows the kit prior to making the last "zig-zag" cut to the fuselage (shown by the dark green line in the image right above it).  The reason for doing that "zig-zag" cut is that the mini shuttle appears to be based ona slightly earlier baseline of the shuttle than what was actually built, where the trailing edges of the wings were straight instead of tapered. 

I discovered if I cut off the control surface part of the kits wings they were a very close match for the sketches that I have for the mini shuttle.  Unfortunately, I would then either need to move the wings aft a little, or cut off the back end of the kit and lengthen it abit in front of the wings.

Because of the way the Lindberg kit is laid out, it looked to me that cutting off the back end of the model would work best, and it would help make it easier to make the back end more vertical, as shown on the mini shuttle, as opposed to the slight slant/rake shown on the full scale shuttle.

However since the Lindberg kit models the very forward part of the wings as part of the fuselage (which you may just be able to make out in the image above) I initially cut the fuselage just forward of the forward most wing extent, as shown in the picture of my cut up kit.

After doing this though I realized that the top half of the model had already started to taper in at this point, which would make trying to add an extension here difficult.  As such I later went back and recut the kit with this "zig-zag" so that I can put the extension for the upper part of the model further aft where the top of the shuttle has a "continous" shape, and put the extension for the bottom half of the fuselage just forward of the wing joint, where the bottom of the fuselage is still fairly "continuous" in shape (but where the top has already beun tapering.

Fortunately this also made cutting out the existing "cockpit" easier as well.

Right now the kit parts are only held together with tape, so that I could see how the pieces looked together.  Hopefully tonight or tommorrow I will start gluing the parts together, adding re-inforcements where necessary, and try and clean up the cut edges, so that I can start looking into scratchbuiling up the "extension" parts as well as new thruster pods, the new cockpit and other similar pieces.

One additional thing that i am working on is how to model the trailing edge of the wings.  Since I cut the kit parts off right at the break point between the wing and control surfaces, the current parts have no control surfaces shown, and a very blunt trailing edge, as shown below.

Wing

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One thought that I have, as shown by the black lines that I added to the image above, would be to cut out part of the material in the trailing edge, and then "score" the upper and lower wing surfaces on a line where the new control surfaces would extend to, so that I could make the aft part of the wing taper to a relatively thin shape.  I would then need to probably "scribe" in some new lines on the upper and lower wing surface to depict the control surfaces.

I was thinking of another option too, though.  Since the parts of the wings that I already cut away (shown in dark blue in the 2nd image above) are already "thin" at their back end, and are already "scribed" as control surfaces, I may be able to cut back my wings a little further and then take those "control surfaces" that I previous cut away, "twist and trim" and modify them a little so that they match the straight trailing edge of the mini shuttles wings, and then glue them in place.  I may have to give both these options a little more thought, before proceeding Stick out tongue.

PF

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, October 12, 2018 11:45 AM

Ben: She looks awesome to me! 

Bakster: Nice work. Again, still seems like the kit should fit a little better than that even if it's a classic one. 

PF: Wow, that's a serious conversion! Looking forward to following along. Reminds me a little of Farscape One from the Aussie TV series Farscape...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, October 12, 2018 12:22 PM

I haven't thought of Shapeways Ben, I'll check it out, thanks.

Steve

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Posted by GAF on Friday, October 12, 2018 1:53 PM

PFJN> That will be a nice concept vehicle!  I must admit, the amount of work for conversion would probably put me off the project!  I admire your fortitude!

The idea of cutting a v-notch in the wing just boggles my mind!  I do not have the tools or skill-set to accomplish a task like that.  File and sanding would be more my speed, I believe.

Look forward to seeing what you do with it!

Gary

Today in Space History:

1964 October 12 - . 07:30 GMT - . Launch Site: Baikonur. Launch Complex: Baikonur LC1. LV Family: R-7. Launch Vehicle: Voskhod 11A57. Voskhod 1 - . Call Sign: Rubin (Ruby ). Crew: Feoktistov, Komarov, Yegorov. Backup Crew: Katys, Lazarev, Volynov. Payload: Voskhod 3KV s/n 3. Mass: 5,320 kg (11,720 lb). Nation: Russia. Related Persons: Feoktistov, Gagarin, Katys, Komarov, Korolev, Lazarev, Rudenko, Tyulin, Volynov, Yegorov. Program: Voskhod. Class: Manned. Type: Manned spacecraft. Flight: Voskhod 1. Spacecraft Bus: Vostok. Spacecraft: Voskhod. Duration: 1.01 days. Decay Date: 1964-10-13 . USAF Sat Cat: 904 . COSPAR: 1964-065A. Apogee: 336 km (208 mi). Perigee: 178 km (110 mi). Inclination: 64.7000 deg. Period: 89.60 min.

The U.S.S.R. launched the world's first multi-manned spacecraft, Voskhod I, the first to carry a scientist and a physician into space. The crew were Col. Vladimir Komarov, pilot; Konstantin Feoktistov, scientist; and Boris Yegorov, physician. Potentially dangerous modification of Vostok to upstage American Gemini flights; no spacesuits, ejection seats, or escape tower. One concession was backup solid retrorocket package mounted on nose of spacecraft. Seats mounted perpendicular to Vostok ejection seat position, so crew had to crane their necks to read instruments, still mounted in their original orientation. Tested the new multi-seat space ship; investigated the in-flight work potential and co-operation of a group of cosmonauts consisting of specialists in different branches of science and technology; conducted scientific physico-technical and medico-biological research. The mission featured television pictures of the crew from space.

Coming before the two-man Gemini flights, Voskhod 1 had a significant worldwide impact. In the United States, the "space race" was again running under the green flag. NASA Administrator James E. Webb, commenting on the spectacular, called it a "significant space accomplishment." It was, he said, "a clear indication that the Russians are continuing a large space program for the achievement of national power and prestige."

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Posted by mach71 on Friday, October 12, 2018 2:11 PM

One bit of information that sticks in my brain, The final Shuttle design was not what NASA wanted. NASA wanted the small shuttle, very similar to the concept shuttle PFJN is building. The Air Force and the NSA dictated the final shuttle design to support intelegence gathering (spy satellites). 

PFJN, might your concept design be the original pure science NASA one?

Work has kept me very busy for 2 weeks, I hope to get started on the Mercury this weekend.

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Posted by GAF on Friday, October 12, 2018 4:28 PM

I was curious about the early shuttle designs and ran across this image and recognized PFJN's shuttle concept.  It was a Grumman design utilizing the first stage of a Saturn V.  I'm not sure what the upper portion contained (another rocket? fuel?).  Interesting model.

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Posted by PFJN on Friday, October 12, 2018 7:40 PM

Hi,

Cool thanks for the info.

PF

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Posted by GAF on Friday, October 12, 2018 10:15 PM

Progress Report:

Since the LES is awaiting parts, and the CM and SM are in degreaser to remove old paint, I've moved my attention to the LM.  I intend to do a basic OOB build on this one, as it's just too different from anything that actually was used as a mock-up or concept.  I'm removing old glue from areas and parts and should have stuff together this weekend.  I have found that I'm missing a small RCS part for the rear, but I'll just model that in clay and move on.

I intend to paint the inside dark grey, though I won't mount the astronaut inside.  He won't be seen anyway.  The Klingon D7 is coming along, although that has nothing to do with this Group Build.  Smile

Meanwhile, I have managed to get the nose portion of the LES modeled in white clay.  I hope to trim it down to mount the "Q-ball" on top, so there's a bit of progress (though the clay is still soft and I'll have to wait for it to harden a bit before continuing).  The skirt around the nozzles is still up in the air, and I'm looking for a part to use for it.  You can see the support structure is done, though it too needs some fill and smoothing at the joints.  Lot of "scratching" for this one!

Mission Director GAF

 

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Posted by Gamera on Saturday, October 13, 2018 4:12 PM

Gary: Very cool! Hope you don't get the kits mixed up- not sure the LEM needs disruptor cannons...

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, October 14, 2018 10:54 AM

Rocket Stand is complete.

Tamiya Blue applied

1 decal applied

70% Testers Dulcote mixed with 30% Testers Glosscote applied

My focus is moving to the capsule/assembly.

 

 

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Posted by PFJN on Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:32 PM

Gamera

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PF: Wow, that's a serious conversion! Looking forward to following along. Reminds me a little of Farscape One from the Aussie TV series Farscape...

Hi,

It kind of remind me of it too, now that you mention it. (PS. I was a fan of that show when it was on Smile)

Mach71

...PFJN, might your concept design be the original pure science NASA one?...

Hi,

From the info that GAF posted it looks like it may have been, or at least it may have been at least closely related to it.  I do think that one of the few references that I have did describe it though as a test craft, that made use of parts from other programs like the X-24 and X-15.  So maybe the mini-shuttle that I am trying to model may have been a test demonstrator of the actual planned shuttle, kind of like how the ENTERPRISE was a test demonstrator for the later "orbital" shuttles.

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:37 PM

Gamera>  Well, you never can tell what you might run into out there...  Wink

Bakster> The stand looks good!  I'm sure the capsule will look just as great.

As for me, things have slowed WAY down.  I've attached some of the RCS parts onto the upper stage of the LM and will be filling and smoothing gaps, then painting the inside, plus cutting out some clear plastic for the windows.

Meanwhile, the degreaser on the CM and SM paint is not working very well (I had a suspicion it would not), so time to pick up some Easy-Off oven cleaner and attack that old enamel paint with something stronger!  A little bit at a time.

Tried to watch the NASA documentary "Above and Beyond", but it just didn't thrill me.  Luckily, the Science Channel ran some nice earlier space documentaries that I found highly enjoyable.

Gary

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:47 PM

PFJN

So maybe the mini-shuttle that I am trying to model may have been a test demonstrator of the actual planned shuttle, kind of like how the ENTERPRISE was a test demonstrator for the later "orbital" shuttles.

Here's a more detailed review of shuttle designs NASA was considering.

http://www.pmview.com/spaceodysseytwo/spacelvs/sld036.htm

An interesting "what might have been".  Smile

Gary

PS> The entire article is very informative. 

http://www.pmview.com/spaceodysseytwo/spacelvs/sld001.htm

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Posted by PFJN on Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:47 PM

[Hi, sorry, I had to cut my reply into two pieces because my web browser kept locking up on me]

GAF

PFJN> That will be a nice concept vehicle!  I must admit, the amount of work for conversion would probably put me off the project!  I admire your fortitude!

The idea of cutting a v-notch in the wing just boggles my mind!  I do not have the tools or skill-set to accomplish a task like that.  File and sanding would be more my speed, I believe.

 

Look forward to seeing what you do with it!

 

Gary

Hi, 

Actually since I don't have a lot of references to go off of, I've just been "winging" a lot of the conversion, trying out different ideas as I go.  So it really hasn't been too "overwhelming" or anything.  I'm thinking that if I get it to at least look close to the sketches that I have I'll be happy. Smile

As for the wings, what I finally ended up doing was a bit of a mix of the two approaches that I mentioned previously.  The image below shows what the wings currently look like.  And maybe later tonight, or tomorrow, I will post a sketch of what I did, since I don't think I can put it in words only all that clearly.

Wing Trailing Edge

Below are some additional pictures of my progress.  The first one shows the wings as assembled, along with most the rest of the aft part of the fuselage.  In the image you can maybe just make out how I reinforced the seems with platic strips.

Pic1

These next couple images show clos ups of the forward part of the fuselage from the pic above.  Here you can hopefully make out where I added some scrap square pieces from a revious 3D print I made that I repurposed to be supports for the front part of this fuselage section, to try and keep the sides pushed out to the right distance.  I found that when I cut up the fuselage I started having problems keeping some of the parts aligned when trying to glue everything back together again, so I used theses square rod scrap pieces that I had to make sure that the lower part of the fuselage aligned with the mid part and upper sections.

Pic2

Pic3

 For the aft section I went ahead and printed up a 3D part specifically for this section, and tried to align it so that it would overlap with the upper and power parts of the fuselage to help make a stronger joint when I glued everything back together.

Aft1

In the above image you may just be able to make out where I made the frame just a little bit small, so that I could add platic strip "shims" on its outer edges so that I could play around with adjusting its overall width.

Next I 3D printed a "filler" section to fit in between the top of that "zig-zag" cut I mentioned in a previous post.  Unfortunately I messed up my measurements and made it a little too narrow and too short, so I tried added plastic strip "shims" here too.

Ext1

Below shows it as initiall fitted to the model.

Ext2

And below shows it as trimmed and fitted, with a little extra plastic card to fill some of the gaps.  In addition, in the two images below you can also see where I filled in the areas at the upper very aft end of the model where the shuttles "thruster pods" used to be.  Here, because there was some "taper" in the shape of the craft back there, I decided to just build up the area using scrap pieces of plastic strip, with the intent that I will give those areas a covering og putty to help cover any gaps etc.

All1

All2

One other thing that you can also see in the last image above is that I had to add a little bit of scarp plastic to the top of the upper part of the model aft of the insert that I added.  Although I added frames and such to make sure that the sides of the model aligned reasonably well, I didn't think to do so for the top of the model.  And once I tried to put everything together I noticed a difference in height in front of this extension piece and aft of it.  So, I've tried to add some plastic here, with the hoped of trying to sand and file it down a bit, and maybe also fair it in with some putty as well.

PF

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, October 14, 2018 8:58 PM

PFJN> It's actually looking quite good!  I'm impressed.  I assume that the wing-pods will cover any gap on the outside.  Since this is only a concept vehicle, I doubt any discrepancy will be noticed.  Smile

Tell me about aligning parts on these old models... Sad

Gary

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Posted by PFJN on Sunday, October 14, 2018 9:27 PM

GAF
 

Here's a more detailed review of shuttle designs NASA was considering.

http://www.pmview.com/spaceodysseytwo/spacelvs/sld036.htm

An interesting "what might have been".  Smile

Gary

PS> The entire article is very informative. 

http://www.pmview.com/spaceodysseytwo/spacelvs/sld001.htm

Hi,

Thanks for the links.  I really like the info on the Mixed Mode Single Stage Shuttle.  Its kind of pudgy looking, but I like it.  Maybe if we ever do a "what if/what could have been" race to space build, I might give that craft a try Big Smile 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, October 14, 2018 10:49 PM

Wow, this thread is hopping, it's dificult to keep up.

I worked a little on the Redstone and Atlas in between my other projects. If I have the AB out I'll apply a little paint here or there. I will need to do some serious masking to the Redstone here shortly before I apply the black. The black that on there is just the primer.

Steve

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GAF
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Posted by GAF on Monday, October 15, 2018 3:15 AM

Steve,

I have that Redstone model and the idea of masking it is just... mind-boggling!  Cutting black decals might be more my speed.  Surprise

Meanwhile, though I missed the anniversary of the breaking of the sound barrier yesterday, here's:

Today in Space History:

2003 October 15 - . 01:00 GMT - . Launch Site: Jiuquan. Launch Complex: Jiuquan SLS. LV Family: CZ. Launch Vehicle: Chang Zheng 2F.

  • Shenzhou 5 - . Crew: Yang Liwei. Backup Crew: Zhai Zhigang. Support Crew: Nie Haisheng. Mass: 7,840 kg (17,280 lb). Nation: China. Related Persons: Nie Haisheng, Yang Liwei, Zhai Zhigang. Agency: PLAAF. Manufacturer: CALT. Class: Manned. Type: Manned spacecraft. Flight: Shenzhou 5. Spacecraft: Shenzhou. Duration: 0.89 days. Decay Date: 2003-10-16 . USAF Sat Cat: 28043 . COSPAR: 2003-045A. Apogee: 336 km (208 mi). Perigee: 332 km (206 mi). Inclination: 42.4192 deg. Period: 91.20 min.

    China's first manned spaceflight began with the lift-off of the CZ-2F booster into the clear blue morning sky. All went according to plan and China's first man in space, Yang Liwei, entered an initial 200 km x 343 km orbit ten minutes after launch. The naval vessels standing buy for rescue in the Sea of Japan were called back to port.

    The highly conservative mission plan was for Yang to remain in the Shenzhou re-entry capsule for the entire 21-hour mission, and not to enter the orbital module. He had two rest periods of three hours each, and was scheduled to eat once or twice meals of what was said to be a superior form of Chinese space food. Frequent communications sessions, including colour television links to the spacecraft, were made possible by China's four tracking ships deployed in the oceans of the world.

    As the spacecraft was in its 21st orbit, the orbital module separated. It would stay in the 343 km orbit for a planned six-month military imaging reconnaissance mission. Retrofire was commanded via a tracking ship in the Atlantic off the coast of Africa. Shenzhou-5 landed only 4.8 km from the aim-point in Inner Mongolia with the parachute being sighted by the ground recovery forces prior to landing. Yang landed after 21 hours 23 minutes aloft.

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  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Monday, October 15, 2018 11:19 AM

Great work everyone!!! It is moving fast enough I'm afraid I'll leave someone out so I'll say great work all around! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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