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The Race Into Space GB, October 2018 - July 2019 (Ended)

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, July 15, 2019 5:29 PM

Bakster
Thanks Mach! Now that my project is done it's a feeling of what do I do now?  (Whistling and twiddling my fingers.)

Well, the American Ships build starts in 19 days. you can clean the bench and get your Wisconsin out.

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Monday, July 15, 2019 4:14 PM

Gamera>  That's looking pretty good to me!  Hope you can get him ready by the 20th (well, 21st really)  I guess I could extend the GB to the 24th (splashdown) if that would help.  Wink

Bakster> What to do?  I'm sure you'll think of something.  After all, what do you do after reaching for the stars?  (Go to DisneyWorld?)  Big Smile  I intend to attend the Huntsville Modelers Show this August.  I've been putting off visiting to Huntsville and the Space and Rocket Center, so this will be a good opportunity (God willing).

Update: I've got the support stand done for the Titan / Gemini, so that takes care of the base (except for some paint).  Next up, decals.  The Redstone should have "US ARMY" with white lettering, but I don't think I can get those done in time.  May have to settle for black on OD green.  Oh, well.

Gary

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 15, 2019 3:14 PM

mach71
Bakster, WOW! The XS-1/jeep look amazing! Great job!

Thanks Mach! Now that my project is done it's a feeling of what do I do now? 

(Whistling and twiddling my fingers.) Confused

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Monday, July 15, 2019 3:08 PM

Looks good, Gam. Can't wait to see it with washes and decals!

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Posted by mach71 on Monday, July 15, 2019 1:02 PM

Looking good Gamera and Gary. I'm thinking yoy will both be done on time.

 

Scottrc, When you do finish off the SV please post a launch photo!

 

Bakster, WOW! The XS-1/jeep look amazing! Great job!

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, July 15, 2019 9:14 AM

Anyway, this is what I've gotten done. It's amazing what some colour will do! Still lots of washes to add to the crevices of the suit. And it will probably take a couple of days to get the decals in place, otherwise I think I'd be able to hit the finish date. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GAF on Monday, July 15, 2019 2:26 AM

Bakster>  Ah, thanks!  And thanks for supporting the Group Build.  You've been stellar in keeping up the comments and advice for us all.  I appreciate it.  Smile

Gamera> Thank you, sir!  Been a hellova ride.  Glad to have you along, and good luck on finishing up the astronaut.  I am looking forward to seeing it finished.

Update:  I must admit I'm having a bit of trouble coming up with a support for the Titan / Gemini booster.  Built a support today, but it didn't work out.  Need to drop back to the drawing board and figure something else out.  Just 5 days left.

Today In Space History:

1975 July 15 - . 12:20 GMT - . Launch Site: Baikonur. Launch Complex: Baikonur LC1. LV Family: R-7. Launch Vehicle: Soyuz-U.

  • Soyuz 19 (ASTP) - . Call Sign: Soyuz (Union ). Crew: Kubasov, Leonov. Backup Crew: Filipchenko, Rukavishnikov. Support Crew: Andreyev, Dzhanibekov, Ivanchenkov, Romanenko. Payload: Soyuz ASTP s/n 75 (EPSA). Mass: 6,790 kg (14,960 lb). Nation: Russia. Related Persons: Andreyev, Dzhanibekov, Filipchenko, Ivanchenkov, Kubasov, Leonov, Romanenko, Rukavishnikov. Agency: MOM. Program: ASTP. Class: Manned. Type: Manned spacecraft. Flight: Apollo (ASTP), Soyuz 19 (ASTP). Spacecraft Bus: Soyuz. Spacecraft: Soyuz 7K-TM. Duration: 5.94 days. Decay Date: 1975-07-21 . USAF Sat Cat: 8030 . COSPAR: 1975-065A. Apogee: 220 km (130 mi). Perigee: 186 km (115 mi). Inclination: 51.80 deg. Period: 88.50 min.

    Soyuz 19 initial orbital parameters were 220.8 by 185.07 kilometres, at the desired inclination of 51.80 degrees, while the period of the first orbit was 88.6 minutes. On 17 July the two spacecraft docked. The crew members rotated between the two spacecraft and conducted various mainly ceremonial activities. Leonov was on the American side for 5 hours, 43 minutes, while Kubasov spent 4:57 in the command and docking modules.

    After being docked for nearly 44 hours, Apollo and Soyuz parted for the first time and were station-keeping at a range of 50 meters. The Apollo crew placed its craft between Soyuz and the sun so that the diameter of the service module formed a disk which blocked out the sun. After this experiment Apollo moved towards Soyuz for the second docking.

    Three hours later Apollo and Soyuz undocked for the second and final time. The spacecraft moved to a 40 m station-keeping distance so that an ultraviolet absorption experiment could be performed. With all the joint flight activities completed, the ships went on their separate ways.


1975 July 15 - . 19:50 GMT - . Launch Site: Cape Canaveral. Launch Complex: Cape Canaveral LC39B. Launch Platform: LUT1. LV Family: Saturn I. Launch Vehicle: Saturn IB.

  • Apollo (ASTP) - . Call Sign: Apollo. Crew: Brand, Slayton, Stafford. Backup Crew: Bean, Evans, Lousma. Payload: Apollo CSM 111. Mass: 14,768 kg (32,557 lb). Nation: USA. Related Persons: Bean, Brand, Evans, Lousma, Slayton, Stafford. Agency: NASA Houston. Program: ASTP. Class: Moon. Type: Manned lunar spacecraft. Flight: Apollo (ASTP), Soyuz 19 (ASTP). Spacecraft: Apollo CSM. Duration: 9.06 days. Decay Date: 1975-07-24 . USAF Sat Cat: 8032 . COSPAR: 1975-066A. Apogee: 166 km (103 mi). Perigee: 152 km (94 mi). Inclination: 51.70 deg. Period: 87.60 min.

    This flight marked the culmination of the Apollo-Soyuz Test Project, a post-moon race 'goodwill' flight to test a common docking system for space rescue. 15 July 1975 began with the flawless launch of Soyuz 19. Apollo followed right on schedule. Despite a stowaway - a 'super Florida mosquito' - the crew accomplished a series of rendezvous manoeuvres over the next day resulting in rendezvous with Soyuz 19. At 11:10 on 17 July the two spacecraft docked. The crew members rotated between the two spacecraft and conducted various mainly ceremonial activities. Stafford spent 7 hours, 10 minutes aboard Soyuz, Brand 6:30, and Slayton 1:35. Leonov was on the American side for 5 hours, 43 minutes, while Kubasov spent 4:57 in the command and docking modules.

    After being docked for nearly 44 hours, Apollo and Soyuz parted for the first time and were station-keeping at a range of 50 meters. The Apollo crew placed its craft between Soyuz and the sun so that the diameter of the service module formed a disk which blocked out the sun. This artificial solar eclipse, as viewed from Soyuz, permitted photography of the solar corona. After this experiment Apollo moved towards Soyuz for the second docking.

    Three hours later Apollo and Soyuz undocked for the second and final time. The spacecraft moved to a 40 m station-keeping distance so that the ultraviolet absorption (UVA MA-059) experiment could be performed. This was an effort to more precisely determine the quantities of atomic oxygen and atomic nitrogen existing at such altitudes. Apollo, flying out of plane around Soyuz, projected monochromatic laser-like beams of light to retro-reflectors mounted on Soyuz. On the 150-meter phase of the experiment, light from a Soyuz port led to a misalignment of the spectrometer, but on the 500-meter pass excellent data were received; on the 1,000-meter pass satisfactory results were also obtained.

    With all the joint flight activities completed, the ships went on their separate ways. On 20 July the Apollo crew conducted earth observation, experiments in the multipurpose furnace (MA-010), extreme ultraviolet surveying (MA-083), crystal growth (MA-085), and helium glow (MA-088). On 21 July Soyuz 19 landed safely in Kazakhstan. Apollo continued in orbit on 22-23 July to conduct 23 independent experiments - including a doppler tracking experiment (MA-089) and geodynamics experiment (MA-128) designed to verify which of two techniques would be best suited for studying plate tectonics from earth orbit.

    After donning their space suits, the crew vented the command module tunnel and jettisoned the docking module. The docking module would continue on its way until it re-entered the earth's atmosphere and burned up in August 1975.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:36 PM

And thanks Gam. I am glad that the gremlin didn’t get his way...

Surprise

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:34 PM

Ted4321

Bakster, 

Terrific.  Absolutely terrific!  I like the "vision in the sky" in the 2nd to last photo.  

Very well executed.  

T e d

 

Thanks Ted! I really appreciate your nice comments, and your following this GB. Thanks for sticking with us...

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:29 PM

GAF

Bakster>  Wow!  That turned out beautifully!  And your photography skills are just out of this world!  Big Smile  I think the crackle sizes turned out great.  And I love the flickering diodes.

Well done!

In recognition of this accomplishment, here's your "Senior Astronaut Modelers Badge".

Had a lot of ups and downs along the way, but you earned it!  Thanks for participating in the group build.  Learned a lot from you along the way.

Gary

PS> If you need help updating your signature, let me know. Smile

 

Thanks Gary for your nice comments and everything. This was a great Group Build! It is nearing 42,000 views in only 10 months, I would call that pretty successful. You should feel pretty good about that too. You guys did a great job on this and your commitment to keeping it fresh is top notch. I am honored to have been part of this.

I don’t want to trouble you about the badge, I should be able to do it.

Btw...regarding the photography. I had no plan in place and it sort of just evolved. I have an LED light fixture that hangs over my bench and it’s all that I used to create the nice illumination. I propped the dio on top of a box so that the dio was just inches below the light. I had purchased the cloud backdrop from a Michaels store and taped it to the shelving behind my bench. It was no frills, no elaborate system. 

Thanks again!

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:03 PM

Bakster: Looks awesome!!! It all came together so well! Heart

Gary: Nice work!!

 

I got some done on the astronaut Sat but didn't get anything done today. Not sure if I'll make the finish date or not but I'm moving toward it.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 14, 2019 8:59 PM

modelcrazy

Gary, the boosters look super. Yes

Bakster. That sir is fantastic and amazing. Bow Down 

 

Thanks Steve!

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Posted by Ted4321 on Sunday, July 14, 2019 8:21 PM

Bakster, 

Terrific.  Absolutely terrific!  I like the "vision in the sky" in the 2nd to last photo.  

Very well executed.  

T e d

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:20 PM

Bakster>  Wow!  That turned out beautifully!  And your photography skills are just out of this world!  Big Smile  I think the crackle sizes turned out great.  And I love the flickering diodes.

Well done!

In recognition of this accomplishment, here's your "Senior Astronaut Modelers Badge".

Had a lot of ups and downs along the way, but you earned it!  Thanks for participating in the group build.  Learned a lot from you along the way.

Gary

PS> If you need help updating your signature, let me know. Smile

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, July 14, 2019 6:14 PM

Gary, the boosters look super. Yes

Bakster. That sir is fantastic and amazing. Bow Down 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 14, 2019 5:00 PM

The X1 project is done. Threading the electrical wires via the hose though the compressor and down into the base was as I expected, nerve racking. The magnet wire I used is stiff and that creates pressure points within the assembly. Fortunately, nothing broke during the process. Things went smoothly after that, and so much so, that I finished the remainder of the project in one day.

Much of what has been done on this has already been documented, but here are a few notes I can add:

1. I applied a coat of Model Master British Gulf over the crackle; this is the base color.

2. I applied an oil wash of burnt umber artist paint to darken the cracks.

3. The oil wash made the surface a bit too dark for my taste, so I blended another coat of British Gulf to lighten things up.

Note: In an earlier post I has mentioned that the crackle size and patterns are directly proportional to the thickness of the paste. Just after that post I did another experiment resulting in a simple process that gave me the scale that I wanted. If anyone is interested in knowing that process, let me know. For now, I won't take the time to post it.

THE FLAME

I was not able to make a flame to my liking. The main issue is that the LEDs are too deep into the airframe to translate forward. After much trial and error I decided that the best course of action to take... is no action. Any attempt to add flames detracted from the lighting effect within the airframe. Sometimes... less is more.

And here is how it came out:

 

Gary--thanks for all the hard work you did on this group build. I thoroughly enjoyed all the space history that you posted. I also want to thank everyone for the advice, support, and for those that participated with their own builds. Cool stuff guys, and it's been fun.

If anyone has questions with anything, feel free to ask. Otherwise, I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

Bakster.

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, July 14, 2019 9:31 AM

GAF
Update:  As promised, here's where I stand on the 3 AMT Man In Space boosters and their base.  The base itself is a piece of poplar with a sheet of poster board glued to the top.  It was sprayed with "Flat Light Aircraft Gray" and then washed with Testors brown.  The stands are left over parts from the Vostok model that were supposed to go inside the boosters, though would have been totally invisible.  I think they were to provide some structural support for the flying version of the rocket.  Glued to the top of the structural supports are some square pieces of plastic card.

Hey Gary, you rockets look good on the poster board and good thinking using the leftover parts as stands. Good job sir! Cool stuff.

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Saturday, July 13, 2019 11:20 PM

Update:  As promised, here's where I stand on the 3 AMT Man In Space boosters and their base.  The base itself is a piece of poplar with a sheet of poster board glued to the top.  It was sprayed with "Flat Light Aircraft Gray" and then washed with Testors brown.  The stands are left over parts from the Vostok model that were supposed to go inside the boosters, though would have been totally invisible.  I think they were to provide some structural support for the flying version of the rocket.  Glued to the top of the structural supports are some square pieces of plastic card.

 A few pieces of one of the structural supports holds up the Atlas, while the Redstone rests on a rubber O-ring.  Still need to do some supports for the Titan.  Decals are being worked on.

That's where things stand so far.  6 days left till mission conclusion.

Gary

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Saturday, July 13, 2019 11:02 AM

Mach71> Should be pretty good once I get all the parts together.  Biggest hold-up now is waiting for parts to dry before I'm able to continue painting.  I should have something this evening to show.

Meanwhile, here's another item from my collection of space related junk.  This is the National Geographic "Sounds of the Space Age" vinyl record.  Luckily, I don't have to record it as someone else has already posted it to Youtube.

 

Hope you enjoy this bit of history.

Gary

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Posted by mach71 on Saturday, July 13, 2019 8:58 AM

Sorry Scott, Your so close! But life gets in the way.

 

Gary, Looking forward to seeing what you come up for a stand!

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Saturday, July 13, 2019 2:37 AM

Scott>  Sorry you won't get to fly the SV on the 20th.  She's still looking good, no matter the delays.  Hope to see her finished soon.

Update:  I've been a bit slow this week, but Saturday should see a lot done as I intend to finish up the base for the 3 AMT boosters.  The small stands are being worked on, and the Titan /Gemini and the Atlas /Mercury are getting some final details added.  Need to start on the decals soon if I'm going to finish up by the 20th, but I think everything will work out.

Only 1 week left in the GB.

Gary

Today In Space History:

1969 July 13 - . 02:54 GMT - . Launch Site: Baikonur. Launch Complex: Baikonur LC81/24. LV Family: Proton. Launch Vehicle: Proton-K/D.

  • Luna 15 - . Payload: Ye-8-5 s/n 401. Mass: 5,600 kg (12,300 lb). Nation: Russia. Agency: MOM. Program: Luna. Class: Moon. Type: Lunar probe. Spacecraft Bus: Luna Ye-8. Spacecraft: Luna Ye-8-5. Decay Date: 1969-07-21 . USAF Sat Cat: 4036 . COSPAR: 1969-058A. Apogee: 870 km (540 mi). Perigee: 240 km (140 mi). Inclination: 126.00 deg. Period: 160.00 min.

    Unmanned soil return mission launched coincident with Apollo 11 mission in last ditch attempt to return lunar soil to earth before United States. After completing 86 communications sessions and 52 orbits of the Moon at various inclinations and altitudes, crashed on the moon on 20 July in an attempted landing. Altitude data used in programming inaccurate or guidance system unable to cope with effect of lunar mascons.
    Officially: Testing of on-board systems of the automatic station and further scientific investigation of the moon and circumlunar space. Parameters are for lunar orbit.


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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, July 11, 2019 6:19 PM

modelcrazy

Scott cool SV. I love those things.

BTW, I don' know if you remember these. 

My favorite plane. Great Planes Ultra Sport 40

But it broke

I liked it so much I built another, with retracts.

 

I think I was present when you cracked it up.  You are the one that got me hooked on the US.  I have had a few of them as time went on.  Still have a .40.

In regards to my Saturn, I really am looking forward to masking this beast.  

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 10:20 PM

Scott cool SV. I love those things.

BTW, I don' know if you remember these. 

My favorite plane. Great Planes Ultra Sport 40

But it broke

I liked it so much I built another, with retracts.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:46 PM

Scott: Looks really cool! I know what you mean about primer, I keep finding stuff and end up priming over and over.

Gary: I have no idea what sort of nail his wife was using. I only have it from him. He came home from work, his ship models were all over the floor, and that's what his wife told him. Indifferent

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 5:30 PM

GAF
Seems like there's always something going south when doing complex work.

True! True! And then there are times when you smash it by bumping a shelf. LOL.

Maybe the culprit was the Demon that lives just behind the sound barrier; smashing models, planes, mach meters...  he's an ornery cuss. 

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 5:26 PM

Gamera
Bakster: OUCH!!! So sorry to hear that. I too hate to go back and fix stuff that I've just built. So good to hear that you've been able to get on top of the problem though. And the hose looks really good.      Don't know if I've told this before but one of the members of our club had a fleet of beautiful ship models that he'd spent ages building, PE, all the details, no expense or time spared. He had them all on shelves mounted to the wall to keep them out of the way.  Well, anyway one day while he's at work his wife decides to hang a picture in the next room. On the wall opposite where he's got all his ships on shelves. She hits it once, twice, a few more times and then CRASH!!! Running in the next room she sees all the ship models lying on the floor smashed to  and gone. So he comes home from work and gets a big, big surprise. Thankfully he said he was able to fix most of the damage... 

Gam--I missed that post. Egads!!! It just goes to show that one never knows how your models might end up crunched. Then there was the guy that had his ship smashed by his cat fleeing from a crazed dog. Tongue Tied

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Posted by scottrc on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 2:17 PM

Hi group,

I have not been around and everything has been delayed due to some personal issues I have to attend to.  This means I am not going to make my July 20th launch date.  I did get some time to spray a coat of primer on the Saturn V today.  There are a lot of blemishes that the primer is showing that need addressed before I want to start any top coats. 

Steve, I like that you found pictures of the days back at the Saddle Butte.  I too have some pictures from that time and the hand me down planes I put together. Hard to believe its been 25 years.

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:29 PM

Gamera>  That must have been one long nail!  Big Smile

Gary

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 7:35 AM

Bakster: OUCH!!! So sorry to hear that. I too hate to go back and fix stuff that I've just built. So good to hear that you've been able to get on top of the problem though. And the hose looks really good. 

 

 

Don't know if I've told this before but one of the members of our club had a fleet of beautiful ship models that he'd spent ages building, PE, all the details, no expense or time spared. He had them all on shelves mounted to the wall to keep them out of the way. 

Well, anyway one day while he's at work his wife decides to hang a picture in the next room. On the wall opposite where he's got all his ships on shelves. She hits it once, twice, a few more times and then CRASH!!! Running in the next room she sees all the ship models lying on the floor smashed to Censored and gone. So he comes home from work and gets a big, big surprise. Thankfully he said he was able to fix most of the damage... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

GAF
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Posted by GAF on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 12:31 AM

Bakster> "Houston, we've had a problem!"

Okay, everyone into the LM and we'll use it as a lifeboat until... oh, wait...

Glad everything seems to have been corrected.  Seems like there's always something going south when doing complex work.  I remember my Escape Tower for the Apollo model and having to rebuild the supports.

The duct looks pretty good, though I think I would have gotten it all assembled before installation and painted it then.  But you're on the scene, so you're the best judge of how to do it.  All I can say is carry on!

No update tonight as I didn't get anything done today.  I'm busy on other real life things at the moment, so I may not get anything really done until this weekend.  I've been recording a lot of space specials on PBS and the National Geographic Channel to watch.  Lot of good stuff on this week.

Will report if anything changes.  10 Days till splashdown.

Gary

Today In Space History:

1965 April 10 - . Launch Site: Baikonur. Launch Complex: Baikonur LC1. LV Family: R-7. Launch Vehicle: Molniya 8K78. FAILURE: Stage 3's engine 8D715K failed due to depressurization of the nitrogen pipeline of the LOX tank pressurization system of Block I.. Failed Stage: U.

  • Luna failure - stage 3 engine failure. - . Payload: E-6 s/n 8. Mass: 1,422 kg (3,134 lb). Nation: Russia. Agency: RVSN. Program: Luna. Class: Moon. Type: Lunar probe. Spacecraft: Luna E-6. Decay Date: 1965-04-10 . The upper stages fell apart on re-entry into the atmosphere...


1966 April 10 - . LV Family: Proton. Launch Vehicle: Proton-K.

  • Cosmonaut training for lunar flights announced - . Nation: Russia. Related Persons: Leonov. Program: Lunar L1. Class: Manned. Type: Manned spacecraft. Spacecraft Bus: Soyuz. Spacecraft: Soyuz 7K-L1. Leonov announces that cosmonauts are in training for lunar missions..


1979 April 10 - . LV Family: Shuttle. Launch Vehicle: Space Shuttle.

  • Shuttle Enterprise delivered to Kennedy Space Centre - . Nation: USA.

    The decision was taken not to convert the Enterprise to a flight orbiter due to the numerous structural design changes made since its construction. Static test article OV-099 would be used for that instead. So Enterprise became a pathfinder vehicle at Cape Canaveral to verify fit and handling of ground facilities in the Vertical Assembly Building and LC39.

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