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75th Anniversary of 1944 Group Build (World at War)

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 11:00 AM

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Well, i had a certain project in mind for my 1944 build. Then the other day I finally watched an old English WWII film, “They Were Not Divided”. A tale of the Guards Armoured Division in WWII. Not the best war movie, but a different perspective of Allied armor. And I've sure seen worse. Typical of a war movie  made of that era, and in this case, a tale of the Welsh Guards.

So ill do a M4A4 from the Guards. A Dragon 1/35 kit. But from the Grenadier Guards at Nijmegen...

 

 

 

 

One good thing about those movies from the early 50's is that the kit they use is the real thing, and tehre are still plenty of people around with fresh memories.

 

Yes. They had Cromwells, Covenentors, lots of Shermans, a Dingo Scout car... even a real Tiger in They Were Not Divided. Now I need to go rewatch Theirs Was The Glory again. I remember seeing a Panther and King Tiger in that one... real ones...

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, January 2, 2019 4:06 PM

Front page updated, stik.  "A Bridge Too Far" is a great film.  I like to watch it on a rotating basis every now and then.  

  

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Posted by Glamdring on Friday, January 4, 2019 8:55 PM

checkmateking02

Thanks for joining up with the GB, Robert and Steve.  I've updated the build roster.

Great screen name, Robert:  Glamdring "the Foe-hammer."  The family just watched "The Hobbit" and "The Lord of the Rings" films over Christmas and New Year.  Also, fits in pretty well with the invasion of Saipan.

 

It was my favorite sword frim the trilogy...such a beautiful blade!

Thanks for the welcome, and I'm looking forward to everyone's builds!

Robert

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Posted by JacknewbIII on Friday, January 11, 2019 8:41 PM

I would like to join this build with the following kit:

1/72 Hasegawa P-38J Lightning using after market decals for Virginia Marie of the 433rd fighter squadron Boroka Airstrip Blak Island, Geevlink Bay, Dutch New Guinea October 1944 flown by Robert Anderson. 

Here is the kit before I crack into it along with the AM decals:

I will check back in when I have the pit ready. I am looking forward to joinging this build!

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 9:43 AM

Welcome to the GB, Jack.  Glad to have you with us.  Great selection for the build.  I've always liked the lines on the Lightning.

I've updated the build roster with your information.

Thanks for joining.

  

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Posted by Est.1961 on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 4:20 PM

I would like to take part in my first GB by entering one of my favourite aircraft from this era the Brewster Buffalo, for this build the 239 version flown by the Finnish air force in their Winter war with Russia. They produced a high number of aces at this time when eventually forced to defend their home land by heroically holding back the Russians. Not actually part of the axis agreement they allowed the Germans to attack Russia from their territory. The model will be the 1/48 by Special Hobby. 

 

 

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Posted by crown r n7 on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 6:34 PM

Im in I’ll think of some thing

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Wednesday, January 16, 2019 7:25 PM

Please add me in this GB as well. Not sure of the build but I will let you know soon...

Currently working on the WW2 HMS Roberts (monitor) for another GB. 

This will be a fun GB....

v/r,

Ben

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, January 18, 2019 9:32 AM

Welcome to the GB, Est, crown and DRUMS!  I appreciate your participation.  I've updated the build roster with your selections--or, if you haven't decided yet, let me know when you do, and I'll add the information.

Thanks again!

Great looking ship, Ben.  What's the scale and manufacturer? 

  

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Posted by crown r n7 on Saturday, January 19, 2019 7:44 AM

 ok CM Im in with this tamiya king tiger but the B-24 for the 43 GB is fighting me tooth and nail with no up dates yet its the models fault Bang Head

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, January 20, 2019 2:02 PM

Nick:  I've updated the build roster with your Tiger.  Nice choice!  Colorful looking critter!

As for the B-24, I've built a couple of them from the Academy/Minicraft release, and they certainly have a few issues--not the least of which is attaching the nose to the rest of the fuselage.

And the cockpit canopy--in three pieces!

You'll also find that the panel lines don't match up very well on the top of the back fuselage.

Plus the instructions were wrong for the horizontal stabilizers.  They'll be upside down if you follow the directions--at least, they were that way on the kit I had.  A kind member called attention to the fact, and I found some extras in the parts box.

Which also tells you that I had a few failures with the kit.  I think I went through three of them before I got everything right.

I'd post a photo of the one I built--just to ecourage you, but it's stuck in my old photobucket account, and I can't seem to access it.

Good luck with it.

  

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Posted by JacknewbIII on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:43 PM

I am looking forward to seeing that King Tiger build Crown.

I have made a bit of progress on the P-38. I have completed the pit and here was not much to it but I black based to give itsome depth. I dipped the glass in futures and am giving it a few days to rest prior to masking and cutting. I have a few more main parts to add and then I am moving into filling and sanding. The nose called for 5g of weight but I coundt get that much to fit so I am hoping my plan B works. I loaded some extra weight in where the motors would have been. 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 9:47 PM

Good progress, Jack.  Nicely constructed.  I built one of these way back when and found it was a challenge to align the booms, wings, tail, etc.  Looks like you mastered all that really well.  

  

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Posted by JacknewbIII on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 10:30 PM

I bought 3 of these same kits in a lot so I am hoping at least the first one doesn't fight me! Thanks for the input Checkmate!

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Posted by Nuckss on Saturday, January 26, 2019 4:58 PM
Hi Guys, I will do a Trumpeter 1:700 scale tribal class destroyer HMCS Huron as it was in 1944. Away from home now but will post pictures ASAP Cheers, Jim
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Posted by checkmateking02 on Sunday, January 27, 2019 7:00 PM

Welcome to the GB, Jim.  Glad to have you participating with the Huron.  I've seen photos of the kit, and it looks pretty sharp.

I've updated the build roster; thanks for joining in.

  

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Posted by Nuckss on Monday, January 28, 2019 4:56 PM

Hello Again,

Here are a few pictures of the HMCS (not HMS) Huron 1944:

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Posted by Nuckss on Monday, January 28, 2019 4:59 PM
I've got two of the three hull camo colours on there and will begin priming and painting the rest of the super structure shortly. The hull camo looked a little daunting at first but is actually not bad. I used the portals as guides for where I needed to mask. I'm letting the navy blue dry for a while so it doesn't come off with the next masking step.
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Posted by Nuckss on Monday, January 28, 2019 5:03 PM
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Posted by Nuckss on Monday, January 28, 2019 5:03 PM
That looks better!
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Posted by checkmateking02 on Monday, January 28, 2019 6:17 PM

Very nice, Jim.  That's a very appealing camouflage scheme.  What type of paint are you using?

  

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Posted by Nuckss on Tuesday, January 29, 2019 10:48 PM

checkmateking02

Very nice, Jim.  That's a very appealing camouflage scheme.  What type of paint are you using?

 

The blue is Vallejo Model Color and most of the other paints will be Vallejo. The gray is Mr. Surfacer primer though actually!

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Wednesday, January 30, 2019 10:12 AM

Thanks, Jim.  It looks good!

  

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Friday, February 1, 2019 5:01 PM

Checkmate,

Sorry about the very slow response to your question. My ship is a 1/350 scale Trumpter kit of the WW2 HMS Roberts Monitor class ship. It participated in Africa, Landing in Italy, D-Day, and several more interactions. One of the main guns is now displayed in the front of the Royal Naval Museum.

Perhaps I can use it for this GB as well?

v/r,

Ben

 

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PROJECTS:

- 1/350 USS Alabama - Staged

- 90mm Greek Hoplite Resin Figure - Done

- 120mm SS Panzer Officer - Done

 

 

 

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, February 1, 2019 10:24 PM

Very nice, Ben.  Looks like a lot of detail parts.  Interesting looking vessel.  I look forward to seeing it come together, since it's a type I'm not familiar with.

I'll update the front page.

  

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Posted by EBergerud on Thursday, February 7, 2019 7:01 PM

Hi folks,

After a flight with an Airfix C-47 (let's call it a draw) I'm ready to turn to 1944. Last year I intended to do a Tamiya Panther D (new tool 2015) along with an ICM T-34/76 for a Kursk duo. Reality kicked me in the shins, and only the T-34 saw the light of day.

But I've still got the Tamiya Panther and want to build it. For one thing, I haven't built a Panther for over fifty years (remember one when I was about 12). Second, I was very impressed with recent Tamiya armor kits - I thought their Jagdpanzer IV was a great kit, adn this one looks good too.

I think I can work this "Kursk Panther" kit into the spirit of 1944 without changing history. I have no intention of adding zimmerit. The Panzer D was produced until September 1943 - with some 800 vehicles made. (Zimmerit was introduced in September 43 and I believe was factory applied.) There were 200 at Kursk: only about 40 were destroyed completely, but from what I can gather, most were gone by fall during the hasty German retreat to the Dnieper. That still leaves 600 - and most would have gone East. A few showed up in Italy, but as I understand it, German armor there relied heavily on Stugs and other self-propelled guns. After the failure at Salerno to destroy the allied landing - no real answer to naval artillery - German defense centered on static defenses which suited Stugs nicely and anti-tank guns more. (There was enough armor around to give the allies a real scare at Anzio, but the naval guns saved the day again - and would do once more at Omaha.)

I'm not going to track down a specific unit, but the entire German Wehrmacht was under intense pressure after twin counter blows on both sides of the Kursk salient in mid-July/early August 1943. By year's end the Germans were west of the Dnieper, hoping (vainly) to make a stable line. What did result in the southern sector was German Army Group South finding itself assailed by two Soviet Fronts under Konev and Vatutin. It's pretty safe to assume, I think, that Manstein had been getting his share of Panthers. (All of this led to the famous Korsun Pocket where much armor was involved.) But if not in the South, than in AG Center - it too was running. I think it almost certain that many Panthers were still in service in January. Mechanical reliability of the Panther improved steadily - at least the Germans started to understand what might cause breakdown. The heavy armor made Panthers tough to demolish and the Germans were very good at recovering damaged vehicles. I also can't imagine the Germans sending back damaged tanks unless essential - the Eastern Front was fighting for its life - again.

So we're going to put a Panther G into the German line somewhere in Russia in January 1944. Obviously that will mean a winter build - I've only done a couple of those and had great fun. Winter builds are not exactly rare, but arguably there should be more. When you figure it, at least one third of the year in the Ost was either winter or Rasputitsa. As I understand it, the Ukraine is a little like my Minnesota home: it has two seasons (cold/snow winter: hot/humid summer) seperated by a few week integrenums. Anyway, a very good excuse to do serious weathering - goody.

For formality sake, here's the kit:

Eric

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Posted by Bish on Friday, February 8, 2019 2:01 AM

Look forward to seeing that come along Eric.

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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, February 8, 2019 11:09 AM

Eric, great write up as always. 

Zimmerit can be found to have been field applied, but I've no idea how widespread it was in terms of every vehicle having it.   The photo below is supposedly an SS Panther D:

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Friday, February 8, 2019 3:36 PM

Panther is a great looking tank, Eric, and it's a great looking kit in the box.  Should be a fun build.

  

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Posted by Rotorhead13 on Friday, February 8, 2019 4:56 PM

Reply to Checkmateking02 concerning the movie A Bridge Too Far. (Can't seem to get my post to attach to his. Guess I still have things to learn).

Me too! I watch that movie every year or two. Also on my repeat list of war movies is The Longest Day, Patton, Sergeant York, Battleground and possibly the best and most watchable war movie ever: The Great Escape. A few typical movie-industry errors, such as creating characters just so they could squeeze in American actors, but, on the whole, a very worthy tribute to the actual participants.

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