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  • Member since
    July, 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:21 PM

 

TheMongoose

 

 

Hey Mongoose, that antenna looks great! Wanna do mine? Lol.  Wink

The timing on this is amazing. Just an hour ago I was looking over my PE trying to figure out if my set came with the antenna you just built. I didn’t think it did, but now I have to look again. I may been looking at it all wrong. I hope I have it because I really don’t want to use the molded kit piece.  Thanks for sharing.

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    July, 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:25 PM

Mach, sorry to hear of all the problems. Keep at it, you will get there. Looking good.

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    July, 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 10:40 PM

Question: my wood veneer came with a chain too. The chain that is molded into the deck looks pretty decent, but what do you guys think about using an actual chain? Is it worth the effort to cut out the molded version and use an actual chain? 

The one downside I see already is that the chain they sent is larger than the molded version, so possibly out of scale depending on who got it right.

Interested in your thoughts. 

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    September, 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:00 PM

There's chain and there's chain. Real Navy chain has flat lozenge shaped links- straight sides, half round at each end, flat no twist, and has a bar across the middle to keep it from balling up in the chain locker.

There's not a lot of readily available info about what the size should be, but bigger ships have bigger chains, of course.

That is simply not available in the jewelry realm, period.

I always leave what came with the kit.

3D has produced some wonderful chain, but so far it's best in the larger scales.

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    July, 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:16 PM

GMorrison

There's chain and there's chain. Real Navy chain has flat lozenge shaped links- straight sides, half round at each end, flat no twist, and has a bar across the middle to keep it from balling up in the chain locker.

There's not a lot of readily available info about what the size should be, but bigger ships have bigger chains, of course.

That is simply not available in the jewelry realm, period.

I always leave what came with the kit.

3D has produced some wonderful chain, but so far it's best in the larger scales.

 

Excellent! I will stick with the kit chain. Thank you... 

  • Member since
    September, 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:22 PM

Update on Frankenship.

The major surgery is done, filler pieces in place and the first round of Bondo applied.

I'm a little impressed that the pre-planning is paying off.

Reminder: this is a Revell FDR CV-42 kit that had it's "flat bottom" removed, and a Revell Forrestal (Saratoga) kit that gave it's bottom for the cause.

Based on a Mike Ashey article 10 years ago in FSM.

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    July, 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:32 PM

Excellent work, GM, craftsmanship at work. I Love it.

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    August, 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:25 AM

Mongoose..your're turning into a PE master.  Great job on all of it so far

GM.. Nice workmanship on grafting hulls.  Going to look great when finished.

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    July, 2013
Posted by steve5 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 12:35 AM

very nice bill , I don't think I have seen anyone do something like what you are doing in a log , looking forward to the rest of your build .

 

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    March, 2010
  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:16 AM

GMorrison

Update on Frankenship.

The major surgery is done, filler pieces in place and the first round of Bondo applied.

I'm a little impressed that the pre-planning is paying off.

Reminder: this is a Revell FDR CV-42 kit that had it's "flat bottom" removed, and a Revell Forrestal (Saratoga) kit that gave it's bottom for the cause.

Based on a Mike Ashey article 10 years ago in FSM.

 

 

 

 

 

Very nice work so far. Thats a lot of surgery!

 

 

  • Member since
    July, 2014
  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:25 AM

Oh my, you guys are really moving along.

Mongoose, excelent job on that PE, that is one tough piece to get streight, and not exidence of CA on the radar screen. That's where I mess up.

Mach, nice recovery and your new fin looks great as well. Glad to see you comming up on the finish.

Bakster, The molded kit chain is OK, but I like AM chain. Like GM said the real anchor chain have a bar in the middle of the links which makes AM chain inaccurate, but the 3D effect looks better to my. It's really the builders call and I'm not sure they call it out at the Nationals either way.
Also, if your PE set does not come with a radar, there are some nice generic sets that work just fine for a great price. It might take a month to get them though Huh?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Ship-Vessels-Detail-Update-PE-1-700-062-WWII-US-Navy-Radar-set-free-shipping/362380872484?hash=item545f954b24:g:Z~sAAOSwezVWwskD

GM, that's some nice work there, glad your documenting the process.

As for me, still banging on the masts, nowhere as nice as Mongooses for sure.

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 1:54 PM

modelcrazy
Bakster, The molded kit chain is OK, but I like AM chain. Like GM said the real anchor chain have a bar in the middle of the links which makes AM chain inaccurate, but the 3D effect looks better to my. It's really the builders call and I'm not sure they call it out at the Nationals either way.

Hi Steve--thanks for your input, I appreciate it. I think that since the chain they sent me is oversize, I'll just use the molded one. It seems to be a clean cast and it looks convincing enough. Yes

modelcrazy
Also, if your PE set does not come with a radar, there are some nice generic sets that work just fine for a great price. It might take a month to get them though

Thanks for this too. Last night I looked at it again and I "think" it's there. It appears to take several pieces to build it up and that is why I didn't recognize it. I still need to make sure though. The instructions are weak and this being my first ship build, and the PE being a generic set for Iowa class ships, it will be a struggle to know what I can use and what I can't. I am enjoying this though.

I am currently working on building up some of the superstructure, and it's fun to see things take shape, trying to be mindful of leaving them in subassemblies so as not to impede some the PE later on. 

I am sure I'll goof something up! Stick out tongue 

  • Member since
    July, 2014
  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:11 PM

Bakster
I am currently working on building up some of the superstructure, and it's fun to see things take shape, trying to be mindful of leaving them in subassemblies so as not to impede some the PE later on. 

Smart, it's easer that way. I also add whatever rigginging I can at that point so I'm not reaching over PE deck railing and risk bending or breaking something.

In the case of the Spruance, as well as most modern ships though, that is impractical.

  • Member since
    March, 2010
  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:26 PM

Construction is complete, Mostly.

I'm leaving the screw off until painting is complete.

 

 

 

I hope the last coat of primer is on.

 

 

 

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 2:54 PM

That's going to look sweet all painted up

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    July, 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 3:36 PM

modelcrazy

That's going to look sweet all painted up

 

Ditto

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    March, 2010
  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 5:17 PM

Thanks, I hope so!

 

Thats all for a few days, I'm off to Norman OK for a wedding. Back Monday.

  • Member since
    August, 2015
  • From: the redlands Fl
Posted by crown r n7 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 6:11 PM

wow Im back from seven days at sea and where do I start.

Bakster,MC,Gamera,the mongoose,drums01 I hope i didnt leave any one out but mank thanks.

The mongoose very detailed 

Bakster you two guy's are awesome with the PE !!

Mach71 lots of work on that sub is it going to be the real sub on desplay?

GM looking good on that ship.

I finished up os the figures and the stand. My latest pic with more to follow as I wrap this up.

Nick.

  • Member since
    March, 2010
  • From: Boston
Posted by mach71 on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 7:54 PM

Nice PT boat!

 

Great job.

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    July, 2014
  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:23 PM

Looking great Nick!

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    January, 2015
Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 9:44 PM

Figures are looking good Crown! That is a beautiful PT boat.

In the pattern: The pattern is empty. What an oddity. Will decide what to build next after returning from the NATS ...winner is the USS Vandegrift FFG-48 because I found a Pontos Adv Detail set at the Nats! Pizza

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    January, 2015
Posted by TheMongoose on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 10:01 PM

ohh I feel like I’ve been keel-hauled. I knew this main mast would take some time and the wife wants us to see the play at the high school tomorrow. Jeeez, you’d think I had been locked in the work room for a week lol So I decided to take 1/2 day off work today to make up the time. Good thing i dId. Started on this at 1 and finished at 10:30. Had a dinner break in there and took the dog out but for the most part this thing was a killer. 

Took me 3 times to get the legs level...best use of a tool here, I just cut the extra off the top of any post that was too long.

If you could look at the wind vanes close up you’d see 1 was pieces all glued together bwuhahaha, but you can’t so you’ll have to believe me when i say all the parts are there.

in total it took 4 hours to do the posts and latice. The rest of the time was all the little details. I’m super happy with it. Cross your fingers that no parts fly off when i use the air brush lol

In the pattern: The pattern is empty. What an oddity. Will decide what to build next after returning from the NATS ...winner is the USS Vandegrift FFG-48 because I found a Pontos Adv Detail set at the Nats! Pizza

  • Member since
    August, 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:19 PM

Very very nice.  Way more patience than I have.  Got a boat load of PE for the 4 1/350 kits in the stash....CV-6, Scharnhorst, Gambier Bay, and Graf Zeppelein.  And I know I won't have any hair by the time one of them is finished let alone all of them.

 

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  • From: Boise ID area
Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:25 PM

Unbelievable work Mongoose. 

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    July, 2014
  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, September 11, 2019 11:59 PM

Crown, your PT looks fantastic. I’d be proud of that. Yes

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  • From: Franklin Wi
Posted by Bakster on Thursday, September 12, 2019 12:01 AM

Mongoose your PE looks incredible. That is fantastic work. 

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Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Thursday, September 12, 2019 6:46 AM

Crown that PT boat looks great!!

Mongoose I can only hope I can get my PE looking half as good as yours and I'm going to work with 350 scale while your doing it in 700.

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: SW Virginia
Posted by Gamera on Thursday, September 12, 2019 11:20 AM

Nick: Your PT boat is really looking the job! Great work!!! 

Mongoose: That mast looks... well it gives me a headache to look at it- amazing job there! I'd have half the parts sticking to me and the rest of it smashed and in the garbage can... 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

  • Member since
    October, 2009
Posted by Kentucky Colonel on Thursday, September 12, 2019 11:48 AM

Guys, I'm planing to order some paints for my USS Missouri. I want the AK paints but will use any orger brand if it's better.  I am not planing on any camouflage and will be using a wood deck.

So far I was looking at Ocean Gray, Light Gray, Haze Gray and Hull Red from AK. I'm just guessing here but the main one I will use for the whole ship will be Ocean Gray. Would that be the right one?

  • Member since
    August, 2014
  • From: Willamette Valley, Oregon
Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, September 12, 2019 1:21 PM

Depends on what era you are placing her in....  WWII, Korea, Gulf War.

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