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  • Member since
    December 2005
  • From: Goteborg / Sverige
Posted by Svenne Duva on Friday, March 27, 2020 8:13 AM

Hi,
colour question for you guys:

The instructions call for Tamiya XF-58 Olive Green for the W.O.T. 8.
I have a can of Tamiya TS-28 Olive Drab 2.

What's your take? 

What would be your prefered colour (make and number) for a June 44 Brittish Army vehicle? 

And does W.O.T. mean Wide Open Throttle ?

Stay healthy and have a good weekend!

Svenne

sic transit gloria mundi

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 27, 2020 9:27 AM

Svenne Duva

Hi,
colour question for you guys:

The instructions call for Tamiya XF-58 Olive Green for the W.O.T. 8.
I have a can of Tamiya TS-28 Olive Drab 2.

What's your take? 

What would be your prefered colour (make and number) for a June 44 Brittish Army vehicle? 

And does W.O.T. mean Wide Open Throttle ?

Stay healthy and have a good weekend!

Svenne

 

You know that's a good question! 

I've got some US olive drab and some bronze green and had intended to use one or the other on the Comet. But after looking around I'm not totally sure either are accurate. 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Friday, March 27, 2020 9:51 AM

I believe the colour was BS 381C 298 khaki green but was also known as Olive Drab. I can't find any specific models paint for that colour, though seem to be plenty selling it for 1/1 scale vehicles. I think the Tamiya OD would be the best option.

W.O.T. = War Office Truck.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, March 27, 2020 11:12 AM

Thanks Bish! I've used US olive drab on my last few British vehicles but I'm reading the US flavour fades to a more brownish-greyish shade while the British fades to a more light green. Oh well, I'll play it by ear- to me if it looks right it's right. 

 

I thought WOT was 'World of Tanks' Stick out tongue 

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Posted by Svenne Duva on Friday, March 27, 2020 12:53 PM

Friday evening and the kids next floor have taken to sleep ( I hope ).
So I won't fire up the compressor untltomorrow morning.

But then I will do the snapdraggon excercise with the plastic spoons.

Until then, stay safe, stay home, stay modeling !!!

With regards 
Svenne

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 27, 2020 1:51 PM

Gamera

Thanks Bish! I've used US olive drab on my last few British vehicles but I'm reading the US flavour fades to a more brownish-greyish shade while the British fades to a more light green. Oh well, I'll play it by ear- to me if it looks right it's right. 

 

I thought WOT was 'World of Tanks' Stick out tongue 

 

I have not done any WW2 British armour, i tend to stick to modern and thats hard enough figuring out colours. Would a coat of OD followed by a mix with some khakl green work.

Ye, i was thinking World of Tanks at first as well.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by sickdude on Friday, March 27, 2020 2:34 PM

Great questions on the OB, I was asking the same thing a few weeks ago. I did some quick googling and I found quite a bit good info. I deleted the bookmarks, stupid me Tongue Tied

William (Willy)

 
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Posted by jgeratic on Friday, March 27, 2020 3:19 PM

Thet W.O.T. 8 truck is a Ford design, but was manufactured in the UK, and therefore would likely have been painted in SCC15, (some also call it British Olive Drab No.15).  This British equivalent of US olive drab came out in 1944 in order to unify the look of their equipment since so much was lend leased.

It has been described as a bit more greener than the American olive, so that may be why the colour call out for Tamiya - well the wording on the bottle matches, but the paint inside ....  It's only in the last few years that model paint brands began bottling this UK colour specifically.  

Mike Starmer, who has researched British vehicle paint colours, has this mix for Tamiya paints:

 5 parts XF81

1 part XF58

1 part XF71

 

regards,

Jack

 

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Posted by Bish on Friday, March 27, 2020 3:35 PM

Nice info Jack, thanks.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Svenne Duva on Saturday, March 28, 2020 1:09 AM

XLNT!

Colour tests due as soon as I hear the kids rumbling ;)

BTW, do you intendent to use all those tiny PE bits for the inner hatches Jack?

With Open Throttle (thx Bish)

Svenne

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Posted by Svenne Duva on Saturday, March 28, 2020 8:39 AM

Hi,

So here we go:

XF-71 Cockpit Green

The mix (XF-81:5 / XF-58:1 / XF-71:1

XF-62 Olive Frab

I like it, thanks Jack!

Volle Pulle

Svenne

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Posted by jgeratic on Saturday, March 28, 2020 11:44 AM

Hello Svenne, glad it worked out to your liking.  Beer

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For my Humber Scout, plan is to  have three or four of the forward hatches open for the driver.  So only those will I bother attaching the little bits of PE detail.  

regards,

Jack

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  • From: Florida-West Central
Posted by Eagle90 on Sunday, March 29, 2020 11:48 AM

Awesome work everyone!  I think I have figured out what I'm going to build.

 

I would like to submit to Her Majesty...and Bish...1/35 Tamiya M3 Grant MkI.  I will be doing it up with 22nd Armoured Brigade colours and insignia.  I looked it up and the 22nd was in the battles of Gazala, Mersa Matruh, First Alamein, and Alam el Haifa.  She also hooked up with the Desert Rats during the 2nd El Alamein battle.  So the brigade has been around.  That and the stag emblem is just cool!  LOL!

 

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:26 PM

Got you on the list Bobby.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Sunday, March 29, 2020 12:37 PM

Bish

Got you on the list Bobby.

 

Thank you sir.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, March 29, 2020 5:02 PM

Jack: Thanks!!! Will give that a whirl!

Bobby: Sounds cool!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Eagle90 on Monday, March 30, 2020 6:55 AM

And it begins.  LOL!

 

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, March 30, 2020 7:34 AM

Eagle90

And it begins.  LOL!

 

HOORAH!!! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Monday, March 30, 2020 12:09 PM
Great work so far everyone!
 
Going to start working on my Sherman this week, just need to get a couple builds finished.
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Posted by Bish on Monday, March 30, 2020 3:35 PM

Look forward to seeing those builds guys.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:19 AM

Just a quick update on the Grant.  A typical beautiful Tamiya kit.  Going together very well.  Very nice kit over all.  Here's a couple of progress pics for you.  Enjoy.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 7:12 AM

She's looking good Bobby, nice work! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by The Model Guy on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 11:05 AM

Bish

 

 
The Model Guy

Am I too late to join in on this? I started a Sherman Mk III last week.

 

 

 

Nope, glad to have you on board. What brand and scale?

 

 

Thanks!

1/35 Tamiya Sherman M4 (Being converted to a Sherman Mk III (M4A2 Diesel)

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 11:09 AM

Gamera

She's looking good Bobby, nice work! 

 

Thank you sir.  It is a very nice kit.  Can't wait to start weathering it up. 

 

 

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Posted by Mopar Madness on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 2:32 PM

I remember getting the Grant for Christmas when I was a kid back in the early 80s. I was simply amazed that this thing had two guns!

Chad

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Posted by Zvezda1980 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 5:14 PM

 Hi folks. I'd like to enlist with a Morris truck & 25 pounder.

1/72 by Italeri.

I thought you might need a little piece of artillery.

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Posted by Eagle90 on Wednesday, April 1, 2020 8:17 PM

LOL!  Yeah, two guns on one tank.  It does look the part doesn't it?  LOL!

Here's another progress pic.  Think I'll be doing the painting tomorrow sometime.  Can't wait to start weathering it!  Enjoy.

 

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 2, 2020 9:41 AM

More guns make a better tank right!?!!

Or at least those guys who designed those multi-turret landships between the world wars seemed to think so... Hmm

All joking aside she looks good Bobby, coming along great! I lot less annoying than all the PE I've got... 

Zvezda: Ohhhhh cool!!

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 2, 2020 1:57 PM

Gamera

More guns make a better tank right!?!!

Or at least those guys who designed those multi-turret landships between the world wars seemed to think so... Hmm



well the Brits and French went down that route also... Big gun in the hull, and smaller AT gun in the turret...

 

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  • From: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England
Posted by Bish on Thursday, April 2, 2020 2:51 PM

Glad to have you on board Zvezda. Will get the roster updated at the weekend.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

 

On the bench: Airfix 1/72nd Harrier GR.3/Fujimi 1/72nd Ju 87D-3

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