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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:53 AM

Harold: Thanks for the additional photos- that's a very cool and intricate looking gun. 

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:06 AM

I will have to check out that video at the weekend.. Its does look odd haveing 2 sights, so i am keen to see how that works.

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Posted by Sergeant on Saturday, January 16, 2021 10:08 PM

Gamera

Harold: Thanks for the additional photos- that's a very cool and intricate looking gun. 

 

Thank you, Cliff, and Bish. The Bofors gun is done for now. Later I would like to add some weathering. Bish please use the first photograph below on your post of finished models.

Harold

  

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 17, 2021 3:03 AM

Thats very nice John, really well done, thank you.

Front page updated, and that reminds me i need to go and watch that video.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 17, 2021 3:16 AM

Thanks for that link Jack. That explains the 2 seats and 2 sights, i was confused about that.

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 17, 2021 8:07 AM

Finally made a start on the Huey after picking up a Revell boxing which included a part i was missing which is not used in the Revell kit. I am adding an Eduard PE set to this. The instructions are a bit off in a few places, but fortunatly i can find some decent pics on line, includeing a couple of the aircraft i am doing on the 7 flight AAC twitter page from a couple of years ago.

I started on the interior, the instructions indicate useing OD for the side and roof padding, but the pics i found show a medium grey. I use Xtracolor blue/grey for the floor and Tamiya medium grey for the padding.

Then got the interior fitted and fuselage together. I had read that the fit was not good and it wasn't wrong. On this side the fuselage floor is fine.

But on this side there is a slight gap and the floor is low. I had planned on having one set of doors shut, so i will do it on this side.

Should have more soon. I need to work out what antenna's to fit and may also need to scratch build some. This kit dates for the late 90's, soon after the AAC started useing these in brunei. I pics i have are from 2019, so it looks like its been updated quite a bit since the kit was made.

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Posted by jgeratic on Sunday, January 17, 2021 10:05 AM

Harold, neat looking model of the Bofors.  Yes

Yes, the tandom crew for aiming the gun is something different.

 

Bish, you are a machine...

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 18, 2021 10:24 AM

Harold: Very cool! I've poked around the AA guns on a couple preserved battleships and they're really interesting weapons. Great job you did on yours! 

Bish: Ohhh, super job there on the chopper. Looking forward to more.   

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 18, 2021 10:27 AM

Thanks guys.

jack, i do try.

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 18, 2021 4:42 PM

Sorry Bish, couldn't help myself...

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, January 19, 2021 2:14 AM

Thats ok, your forgiven. Wink

Haven't watched that movie in years.

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Posted by Sergeant on Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:04 PM

Thank you, Jack and Cliff. Bish, it is amazing that you have completed so many fine models in 2020, by my count there is at least eight.

Like many others, I have been trying for days to post a reply to comments, but keep getting the dreaded 403 error. Finally today I just posted this notice without any connection to other posts and the system let me do it. This is very frustrating, but this forum is a free feature of FSM's larger website and most of the time it works fine.

Harold

  

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Posted by Bish on Saturday, January 23, 2021 1:48 PM

Thank you Harold, its been a pleasure having you along and watching your builds.

I've seen others mention this error issue, but i have not had any problems.

 

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Posted by Sergeant on Saturday, January 23, 2021 8:38 PM

Thank you Bish, I enjoy being part of a group build. I have made some new friends and learned new ways of doing things. I got to know you and Mike Starmer in the UK and Jack Geratic in Canada on a more personal level. It's been a fun experiance.

The 40mm Bofors Anti-Aircraft gun is finished and I'm back to work on the Matador. I assembled hardware for the tilt-out window and finished hand painting selected items in the cab. I have a little more hand painting to do around the windows, and cab is almost ready to glue together and add the roof. Then I will be ready to give the exterior a finish coat of S.C.C. 15 British Olive Drab.

My S.C.C. 15 Olive Drab is not the same color as U.S. Army Olive Drab, so I call it British Olive Drab or British O.D. This S.C.C. 15 color is a Mike Starmer Tamiya mix of 5 parts FX-61 Dark Green, 2 parts FX-62 Olive Drab, 2 parts FX-3 Flat Yellow and 1 or 2 parts FX-53 Neutral Grey to lighten the mix just a touch. I used Mike Starmer's color chip in his British Army Colours & Disruptive Camouflage book. Note of caution: Do not use more than the exact amount of FX-3 Flat Yellow. Even five extra parts can change the mix from British O.D. to a more Yellow Green color.

I will give the British O.D. a few days to dry and then apply either AK Elastic Putty or MIG Masking Putty to create the camouflage pattern with Tamiya XF-69 Nato Black. Since I have never used putty or for that matter successfully painted camouflage on a model it will be a new experience. My attempt to camouflage the last Matador with a stencil ended in oven cleaner disaster. This time I will practice on a couple of old tank bodies I keep around for just that purpose.

Harold

  

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Posted by Sergeant on Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:39 PM

 

I finished the interior hand painting and cab assembly. Gave the exterior a touch up coat of surface primer and its ready for a couple of light coats of S.C.C. 15 British O.D. Since the top and lower part of the vehicle is painted in S.C.C. 14 Blue Black like the picture of 'The Old Lady' below I mainly need the British O.D. on the sides, front and back of the body. For Blue Black Mike Starmer recommends Tamiya XF-69 Nato Black.

Harold

  

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, January 24, 2021 12:51 PM

Looking good Harold, i like the scheme your planning.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, January 24, 2021 4:53 PM

That looks great Harold, you're almost done now!

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 3:03 AM

Gamera

That looks great Harold, you're almost done now!

 

Thank you Bish and Cliff. I found something today that has bothered me for weeks. Which direction the tread on these big tires is suppose to be going. The instructions show the tread pointing to the rear. But I felt that was wrong until I found the picture below that shows the tread pointing to the rear. The tread pattern is the very same as the model. So now I know, and it was a good thing I did not glue the wheels on yet.
 
Harold

  

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, January 27, 2021 11:17 AM

Whoa good catch there on the tyres! 

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Posted by Sergeant on Thursday, January 28, 2021 12:31 AM

Gamera

Whoa good catch there on the tyres! 

 

Ok my friend, it's time for camouflage.

I finished the S.C.C. 15 British Olive Drab painting, so tomorrow is the real test for me. I have practiced flattening MIG Masking Putty with my wife's rolling pin, then cutting scallops with a hobby knife to create the 'Mickey Mouse' style of camouflage pattern that I am attempting to reproduce from the picture of 'The Old Lady' shown below.

The masking putty will be applied in sections over the British Olive Drab paint along the sides, front and back of the tractor body. Then all of the exposed surface, top and bottom will receive one or two light coats of Tamiya Nato Black to represent the S.C.C. 14 Blue Black color used for camouflage in 1944 Northern Europe.

Harold

  

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 28, 2021 8:37 AM

Good luck! This is gonna be interesting! 

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Posted by jgeratic on Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:03 AM

Harold, interesting approach to get that camou applied.

Since it is hard edge, you could just hand paint with a brush, though it would be advisable to thin the paint such that you will apply at least two layers.  This avoids the chance of paint buildup over details, and results in a nice even layer. 

But I can see the advantage of preparing masks.  It allows one to concentrate on the paint application and not worry about camou shapes.

 

regards,

Jack

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Posted by Bish on Thursday, January 28, 2021 10:37 AM

Going to be interesting seeing that scheme Harold, looks tricky.

The notice the tires on The Old lady have a different tread, i am guessing they are modern replacments.

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Posted by Sergeant on Thursday, January 28, 2021 4:49 PM

jgeratic

Harold, interesting approach to get that camou applied.

Since it is hard edge, you could just hand paint with a brush, though it would be advisable to thin the paint such that you will apply at least two layers.  This avoids the chance of paint buildup over details, and results in a nice even layer. 

But I can see the advantage of preparing masks.  It allows one to concentrate on the paint application and not worry about camou shapes.

 

regards,

Jack

 

Thank you Cliff, Jack and Bish. I feel more comfortable with a putty mask than hand painting the scallops. Although I may need to touch up with a paint brush after I remove the mask. I have recruited my wife's help and she came up with the idea of using plastic straws of different diameters like cooky cutters on the flattened putty mask to create the scallop Pattern.

I will pre-cut pieces of flat putty to fit the shape of each section of the model and cut the scallop pattern with plastic straws on a cutting board. Then apply the pre-cut putty mask to the tractor body sections making sure to joint each section at the seams. The mask is only required along the lateral line of the body, the top and bottom of the body will be Nato Black as seen in the picture of 'The Old Lady'.
 
I practiced on an old tank body and the putty mask works very well, but I need to keep the coats of paint light so it does not build up at the edges. I will also remove the canopy and paint it separately. This putty mask approach will take more time, but the mask gives me more control of the process. So we shall see how it turns out in the next day or two.
 
Harold
 
 

  

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Posted by Gamera on Friday, January 29, 2021 11:51 AM

The straws are a clever idea- going to have to file that away for sometime I need the same sort of thing. Yes

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Posted by Bish on Monday, February 1, 2021 2:04 PM

I got the Huey all together a ready for painting a couple of weeks ago. The Antenna fit is based on photo's of the real thing not the kit instructions. Fortunatly both the kit and PE set include them for the other versions. The rail on the roof i made with some wire. I have also made some extra antennas for underneath but will add those later.

But then i realised they didn't have the right shade of green for British Army helo's. Xtracolor used to have it, but stopped it a few years back. After doing a search i opted for Hataka acrylics. They do a complete set for British helicopters, but i just got the green and grey. I was wary after my experiance with MiG Ammo. But this stuff was really nice and even in the cold damp winter it was touch dry over night.

 I'll give it another night then mask for the Orange.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

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Posted by Sergeant on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 1:03 PM

Bish
But then i realised they didn't have the right shade of green for British Army helo's. Xtracolor used to have it, but stopped it a few years back. After doing a search i opted for Hataka acrylics. They do a complete set for British helicopters, but i just got the green and grey. I was wary after my experiance with MiG Ammo. But this stuff was really nice and even in the cold damp winter it was touch dry over night.

 I'll give it another night then mask for the Orange.

 

The painting on your Huey is coming along well Bish. I have never successfully completed any camouflage painting, so when I watch you it looks so easy.

The pictures below is were I'm at with the Matador camouflage painting. The putty masking did not work very well, so I am using a combination of masking tape and hand painting which is very slow.

  

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Posted by Bish on Wednesday, February 3, 2021 2:40 PM

Thanks Harold, i wish it were that easy. Though this one wasn't to bad.

Thats a nice job your doing with that camo.

I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so

On the bench: Italeri 1/72nd Bell 212/Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat/Trumpeter 1/32nd Me 262A-1a

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Posted by Sergeant on Friday, February 5, 2021 11:49 PM

Bish

Thanks Harold, i wish it were that easy. Though this one wasn't to bad.

Thats a nice job your doing with that camo.

 

Thank you Bish. I made a little more progress, but it is very slow and time consuming.

Harold

  

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Posted by Armor_Aficionado on Saturday, February 6, 2021 11:48 AM

Just thought y'all might like to see what I've done with my two buillds for this GB, the two Tamiya LRDG trucks.  WIP on an LRDG diorama (still working on a bunch of figures):

 

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